1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,890 - The book kinda just stayed, it stuck to me. 2 00:00:02,890 --> 00:00:05,380 It was inside my head everyday, 3 00:00:05,380 --> 00:00:07,390 I was thinking about it so much. 4 00:00:07,390 --> 00:00:09,570 - Is this a manly shape I'm makin'? 5 00:00:09,570 --> 00:00:11,687 - They're gonna do things for you. 6 00:00:11,687 --> 00:00:12,520 - I don't know that college 7 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,250 is really the best thing for you. 8 00:00:14,250 --> 00:00:17,273 A year with us may be a much better use of your time. 9 00:00:18,155 --> 00:00:20,880 (dramatic music) 10 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:25,410 - Boy Erased is based on a memoir by Garrard Conley. 11 00:00:25,410 --> 00:00:30,410 He was viciously outed as gay to his parents. 12 00:00:31,740 --> 00:00:33,443 He was living in Arkansas. 13 00:00:34,430 --> 00:00:36,820 His dad was a Baptist minister. 14 00:00:36,820 --> 00:00:41,820 And they, in the wake of that news, 15 00:00:41,860 --> 00:00:44,410 believing that his sexuality was sinful 16 00:00:44,410 --> 00:00:46,160 and that it was choice 17 00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:50,330 sent him to a conversion therapy facility. 18 00:00:50,330 --> 00:00:52,200 I thought it was a very important story. 19 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,980 I felt very muchly moved by it. 20 00:00:54,980 --> 00:00:59,980 But I'd come out of the book with so many feeling of shock 21 00:01:01,827 --> 00:01:04,040 and I was inflamed by the injustice 22 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:04,873 of what he'd been through 23 00:01:04,873 --> 00:01:09,873 but I felt this empathy for this family who had kind of 24 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,170 caused all this drama over something that really, 25 00:01:13,170 --> 00:01:16,430 in my opinion, didn't need to be created. 26 00:01:16,430 --> 00:01:19,410 So, I guess I became obsessed with this story enough 27 00:01:19,410 --> 00:01:21,070 that I wanted to do something about it. 28 00:01:21,070 --> 00:01:24,290 And I didn't think I was the right person to tell the story 29 00:01:24,290 --> 00:01:28,460 from the simple fact that I didn't identify as someone of 30 00:01:28,460 --> 00:01:30,613 the LGBTQ community. 31 00:01:31,780 --> 00:01:34,180 I thought I could be behind the scenes in some way 32 00:01:34,180 --> 00:01:38,010 but maybe it's not me that should make this story. 33 00:01:38,010 --> 00:01:40,900 The book had been on the shelves for a whole year. 34 00:01:40,900 --> 00:01:42,750 Nobody was knocking his door down 35 00:01:42,750 --> 00:01:45,340 to try to turn it into a film. 36 00:01:45,340 --> 00:01:47,090 And this daily obsession of mine 37 00:01:47,090 --> 00:01:49,750 caused me to just kinda keep doing things about it. 38 00:01:49,750 --> 00:01:51,640 And one of those things was eventually 39 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:56,160 I started writing scenes from the book into a screenplay. 40 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,640 It just kept going. 41 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,040 The obsession kept dragging me along. 42 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,710 And after awhile I thought, okay, 43 00:02:02,710 --> 00:02:04,460 I think I am qualified to make this, 44 00:02:04,460 --> 00:02:07,603 simply because I care about the story so much. 45 00:02:08,730 --> 00:02:12,170 It really was that when I looked at the family photo album, 46 00:02:12,170 --> 00:02:14,670 it was one of the first things I asked of Garrard. 47 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:17,880 Can I see photos of that time? 48 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,530 And it was like Nicole and Russell were staring at me. 49 00:02:21,530 --> 00:02:26,230 Lucas was the guy who had an energy 50 00:02:26,230 --> 00:02:30,110 less so than a resemblance to the real Garrard. 51 00:02:30,110 --> 00:02:33,320 But an energy that reminded me of the right things. 52 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,070 And there's also this beautiful sensitivity to him 53 00:02:36,070 --> 00:02:39,060 and an ability, as an actor, to hold the screen 54 00:02:39,060 --> 00:02:41,136 without words. 55 00:02:41,136 --> 00:02:44,710 I needed somebody who could hold the screen with silence. 56 00:02:44,710 --> 00:02:47,220 Acting and directing is a tricky thing at the same time 57 00:02:47,220 --> 00:02:51,780 because as much as I love both 58 00:02:51,780 --> 00:02:54,830 I have to make the head and the gut thing 59 00:02:54,830 --> 00:02:56,140 work together somehow. 60 00:02:56,140 --> 00:03:01,140 Cause directing is really much more 61 00:03:01,690 --> 00:03:03,940 of being an adult person. 62 00:03:03,940 --> 00:03:05,380 It's like you're running a household, 63 00:03:05,380 --> 00:03:08,310 and being an actor is like just being a kid 64 00:03:08,310 --> 00:03:09,760 in that household. 65 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,340 One of thing I love as an actor is that once you're 66 00:03:12,340 --> 00:03:14,937 prepared enough, you also should allow yourself to 67 00:03:14,937 --> 00:03:18,770 just sort of free fall and then see what happens. 68 00:03:18,770 --> 00:03:22,400 That moment as a director-actor happens when you've 69 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,300 set everything up and then you're like, 70 00:03:24,300 --> 00:03:25,170 why aren't we shooting? 71 00:03:25,170 --> 00:03:26,307 And then someone goes, 72 00:03:26,307 --> 00:03:28,270 "But you haven't got your costume on yet." 73 00:03:28,270 --> 00:03:29,223 You go, oh quick. 74 00:03:30,510 --> 00:03:32,260 Put it on and then just walk into the frame 75 00:03:32,260 --> 00:03:33,120 and see what happens. 76 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,010 And that feels like something of a free fall. 77 00:03:35,010 --> 00:03:40,010 It doesn't always work, but that's the way to embrace it. 78 00:03:40,140 --> 00:03:44,917 And the beauty of having done research, preparation, 79 00:03:47,090 --> 00:03:49,733 and everything that goes into planning a movie, 80 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,600 it's like one of the most wonderful and comprehensive 81 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,410 researches you can do for a character. 82 00:03:57,410 --> 00:04:01,630 The question as to how you get people to watch a movie, 83 00:04:01,630 --> 00:04:04,630 who should watch the movie is a bit of a conundrum actually. 84 00:04:05,650 --> 00:04:08,690 If you're of a set mind, you watch a certain news station 85 00:04:08,690 --> 00:04:11,990 because you watch what you identify with. 86 00:04:11,990 --> 00:04:15,960 It's hard to get somebody who watches CNN 87 00:04:16,882 --> 00:04:19,320 and say to them, from now on you should watch Fox News or 88 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:20,253 vice versa. 89 00:04:22,076 --> 00:04:24,940 And that's kind of the trick with movies as well 90 00:04:24,940 --> 00:04:27,530 is yes it's an identifier for young people 91 00:04:27,530 --> 00:04:29,020 and I think that's important. 92 00:04:29,020 --> 00:04:33,460 It's really important for parents to watch the film 93 00:04:33,460 --> 00:04:36,270 if they're of the mind to make decisions for their children 94 00:04:36,270 --> 00:04:38,630 which could cause this kind of damage. 95 00:04:38,630 --> 00:04:42,370 Or if it's just in fact how you do conduct yourself 96 00:04:42,370 --> 00:04:45,970 in the wake of a child coming out in your family, 97 00:04:45,970 --> 00:04:50,220 put that positive something into the world that could 98 00:04:50,220 --> 00:04:53,420 effect change, could create conversation, 99 00:04:53,420 --> 00:04:55,190 could even save a life. 100 00:04:55,190 --> 00:04:58,320 Suicide is very much a topic to be talked about 101 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,220 when you talk about conversion therapy. 102 00:05:00,220 --> 00:05:04,080 Planting ideas into a child's head that grow and harvest 103 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,850 into very dark places. 104 00:05:06,850 --> 00:05:08,583 So, yeah. 105 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,820 I'm rambling a little bit, but yeah. 106 00:05:11,820 --> 00:05:12,970 It's cause I care.