1 00:00:00,070 --> 00:00:03,908 - I've always had a very inherent respect for somebody who 2 00:00:03,908 --> 00:00:06,250 if they've got $50 at the end of the month 3 00:00:06,250 --> 00:00:08,150 and they've paid all their bills and all of that, 4 00:00:08,150 --> 00:00:10,380 goes out and has an opportunity to buy a product, 5 00:00:10,380 --> 00:00:11,740 and if it has my name on the tag, 6 00:00:11,740 --> 00:00:12,862 I want it to deliver. 7 00:00:12,862 --> 00:00:15,445 (upbeat music) 8 00:00:17,396 --> 00:00:19,320 - At just 24 years old, 9 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,740 Nate Berkus formed a one man design firm, 10 00:00:21,740 --> 00:00:23,540 and set about making a name for himself 11 00:00:23,540 --> 00:00:25,200 in the city of Chicago. 12 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,120 It's now 25 years later 13 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,770 and he's managed to build a design empire. 14 00:00:29,770 --> 00:00:32,550 From product collections to brand partnerships, 15 00:00:32,550 --> 00:00:35,430 and there was one moment in particular that really changed 16 00:00:35,430 --> 00:00:37,420 the course of his career. 17 00:00:37,420 --> 00:00:39,520 You were a young designer and then all of a sudden 18 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,670 you were kind of thrust upon the nation, 19 00:00:42,670 --> 00:00:43,750 thrust into this new stage, 20 00:00:43,750 --> 00:00:45,429 because of Oprah right? 21 00:00:45,429 --> 00:00:48,680 I mean how did that opportunity come about? 22 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,360 And how did you kind of get ready knowing 23 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,980 that what you've done before was all gonna change 24 00:00:53,980 --> 00:00:54,950 from that point on? 25 00:00:54,950 --> 00:00:58,640 - I got a call from Harpo from Jenna Kastelnik. 26 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,940 Then she said, we would like to try to work with you 27 00:01:01,940 --> 00:01:03,610 if you'd be interested in coming on the show, 28 00:01:03,610 --> 00:01:06,300 we have a small space makeover in Boston in the Back Bay. 29 00:01:06,300 --> 00:01:08,220 I need you to bring your plumbers, and your painters, 30 00:01:08,220 --> 00:01:09,890 and your drywallers, 31 00:01:09,890 --> 00:01:14,890 and everyone this afternoon in a truck to Boston 32 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,190 and we'll all meet there tomorrow afternoon 33 00:01:17,190 --> 00:01:19,370 and we can walk through the project. 34 00:01:19,370 --> 00:01:21,050 And I said I'm gonna need to call you back 35 00:01:21,050 --> 00:01:22,310 in like 10 minutes. 36 00:01:22,310 --> 00:01:24,400 So I sat at my desk, I'll never forget the moment, 37 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,650 and I thought there's no way I'm gonna gather 38 00:01:27,650 --> 00:01:29,670 all those people, put them in their trucks, 39 00:01:29,670 --> 00:01:31,590 and require them to go to Boston, 40 00:01:31,590 --> 00:01:32,423 they won't do it. 41 00:01:32,423 --> 00:01:35,550 So I called Jenna back and I said, 42 00:01:35,550 --> 00:01:39,490 we can do this, but we can't use the tradespeople 43 00:01:39,490 --> 00:01:41,660 that I work with here in Chicago. 44 00:01:41,660 --> 00:01:45,190 What Harpo has to do is reach out to a national retailer 45 00:01:45,190 --> 00:01:47,750 that has these people in every major market, 46 00:01:47,750 --> 00:01:51,100 and they need to do a deal with them. 47 00:01:51,100 --> 00:01:54,351 That was actually the formula that we used for 12 years 48 00:01:54,351 --> 00:01:56,090 of Harpo makeovers. 49 00:01:56,090 --> 00:01:57,040 But it was terrific, 50 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,730 and the makeover went really, really well. 51 00:01:58,730 --> 00:01:59,990 And she loved it. 52 00:01:59,990 --> 00:02:00,830 She loved the makeover. 53 00:02:00,830 --> 00:02:01,700 She loved the ideas, 54 00:02:01,700 --> 00:02:04,110 and she picked up my hand kind of like this, may I? 55 00:02:04,110 --> 00:02:04,943 - Yeah. 56 00:02:04,943 --> 00:02:07,730 - She goes "Nate Berkus, remember his name." 57 00:02:07,730 --> 00:02:09,450 And that was the moment. 58 00:02:09,450 --> 00:02:10,283 - [Chris] The Oprah. 59 00:02:10,283 --> 00:02:11,330 - That was the moment. 60 00:02:11,330 --> 00:02:12,163 At the time, 61 00:02:12,163 --> 00:02:15,150 I wish I could tell you that I had all my ducks in a row, 62 00:02:15,150 --> 00:02:17,440 and that I was this brilliant business strategist 63 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,290 and I was like, that was the moment, 64 00:02:19,290 --> 00:02:20,690 I'm gonna capitalize on that, 65 00:02:20,690 --> 00:02:22,350 and I'm gonna do publishing and licensing, 66 00:02:22,350 --> 00:02:26,520 and product endorsements, and I'm gonna travel the world, 67 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:27,940 and I'm rich. 68 00:02:27,940 --> 00:02:29,200 It wasn't. 69 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,520 At that moment, I was very much in that moment. 70 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,300 And I also made a decision in that moment that no matter 71 00:02:35,300 --> 00:02:37,890 how many times I was invited back to the Oprah show 72 00:02:37,890 --> 00:02:39,530 to do what I loved, 73 00:02:39,530 --> 00:02:41,720 I would always treat it as the very first time. 74 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,240 I never rested on any laurels. 75 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,370 I never changed as a person. 76 00:02:47,370 --> 00:02:48,560 How can I be better? 77 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:49,760 How can I work harder? 78 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,333 How can I be more creative? 79 00:02:53,370 --> 00:02:56,100 - Your company grew so much after that experience, 80 00:02:56,100 --> 00:02:57,580 what did you learn about yourself as a leader 81 00:02:57,580 --> 00:02:58,750 during that time? 82 00:02:58,750 --> 00:03:01,660 - It was very important to stay consistent and true 83 00:03:01,660 --> 00:03:03,660 to my character as a person. 84 00:03:03,660 --> 00:03:04,700 I'm not perfect. 85 00:03:04,700 --> 00:03:06,960 I would come to work in a bad mood sometimes. 86 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,270 I would get run down and super tired, 87 00:03:09,270 --> 00:03:12,400 but I tried to always be really consistent and really fair, 88 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,830 and really stop and listen to what the other person 89 00:03:14,830 --> 00:03:17,320 was saying and what the problem that was being presented 90 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,010 or the opportunity was really about. 91 00:03:20,010 --> 00:03:23,900 I had a really good group of people around me since day one. 92 00:03:23,900 --> 00:03:26,860 A group that I felt had my best interest at heart, 93 00:03:26,860 --> 00:03:31,245 and would keep me in line when just because we received 94 00:03:31,245 --> 00:03:33,497 a call from a big company that said, 95 00:03:33,497 --> 00:03:35,460 "Would Nate be willing to do this?" 96 00:03:35,460 --> 00:03:37,860 And "This is worth x amount of dollars." 97 00:03:37,860 --> 00:03:40,620 We said, "No" a lot. 98 00:03:40,620 --> 00:03:42,900 The best thing you can do is get out of your own way. 99 00:03:42,900 --> 00:03:43,980 Lead with empathy. 100 00:03:43,980 --> 00:03:45,480 Lead with kindness. 101 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,590 Don't be an asshole that no one wants to meed with. 102 00:03:48,590 --> 00:03:51,710 So we're in my booth in the 1stdibs showroom 103 00:03:51,710 --> 00:03:52,543 in New York City. 104 00:03:52,543 --> 00:03:56,778 1stdibs is the leading global online marketplace 105 00:03:56,778 --> 00:03:59,253 for vintage, antique, 106 00:03:59,253 --> 00:04:00,560 not only home, 107 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,990 but jewelry, fashion, all of that. 108 00:04:03,990 --> 00:04:06,730 This opened a little under a year ago, 109 00:04:06,730 --> 00:04:09,170 and all the things that you see in here, 110 00:04:09,170 --> 00:04:11,490 like these bowls that I brought back from Mexico, 111 00:04:11,490 --> 00:04:12,990 that I had to have. 112 00:04:12,990 --> 00:04:15,170 So basically I sell stuff that I don't want, 113 00:04:15,170 --> 00:04:16,490 that I've moved on from. 114 00:04:16,490 --> 00:04:18,490 And also things that have belonged to clients 115 00:04:18,490 --> 00:04:20,040 that they've either moved, 116 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,290 or they don't wanna keep the things any longer. 117 00:04:22,290 --> 00:04:25,040 - How important is travel to design? 118 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,640 - I think it's the most important thing. 119 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,160 And I think that when people who are just starting out 120 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,147 in design ask me the thing that I find the most important, 121 00:04:33,147 --> 00:04:37,570 about being a good designer, not just a okay designer, 122 00:04:37,570 --> 00:04:39,200 and that thing is references. 123 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,530 And if you can't afford to travel, 124 00:04:40,530 --> 00:04:41,830 you need to be in the library. 125 00:04:41,830 --> 00:04:42,840 You need to be online. 126 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:44,510 You need to study different cultures. 127 00:04:44,510 --> 00:04:46,770 and what the crafts are from those cultures, 128 00:04:46,770 --> 00:04:49,210 and how you can apply them and mix and combine them 129 00:04:49,210 --> 00:04:52,150 in a way that's very singular 130 00:04:52,150 --> 00:04:53,934 and unique to what you're doing. 131 00:04:53,934 --> 00:04:55,400 (upbeat music) 132 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,500 - You're having this 25th Anniversary of your business, 133 00:04:58,500 --> 00:04:59,820 what have you found to be the key 134 00:04:59,820 --> 00:05:02,610 to longevity and reinvention? 135 00:05:02,610 --> 00:05:06,440 - One thing about the way that I run my business 136 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,400 is that it's not ego based. 137 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,590 There's not one right way to design a room. 138 00:05:10,590 --> 00:05:13,640 There's not one solution to a problem. 139 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,870 There's always a solution in design. 140 00:05:15,870 --> 00:05:19,630 There's a million ways you can sort of cut that pie. 141 00:05:19,630 --> 00:05:21,560 And what I've learned about collaboration, 142 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,270 and what I learned initially about it is that there's more 143 00:05:24,270 --> 00:05:27,320 than one good idea in this space. 144 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,240 Nothing ever goes according to plan. 145 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:30,840 Our exercise regime doesn't go, 146 00:05:30,840 --> 00:05:32,050 our diet doesn't go according, 147 00:05:32,050 --> 00:05:33,200 nothing, nothing does. 148 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,850 What I've learned in those moments of crisis is that, 149 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,060 that is a really huge part of being in the service industry 150 00:05:40,060 --> 00:05:44,400 and a really huge part of being a creative in that industry. 151 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,010 You have to face it, like just, 152 00:05:47,010 --> 00:05:49,140 you have to step in front of the bus. 153 00:05:49,140 --> 00:05:53,150 And the bus is typically the client's fear, anger, 154 00:05:53,150 --> 00:05:55,800 the situation that you found yourself in. 155 00:05:55,800 --> 00:06:00,060 And you have to own your mistake if there is one. 156 00:06:00,060 --> 00:06:01,760 You have to own the accountability. 157 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,620 You have to be a 100% accountable. 158 00:06:04,620 --> 00:06:08,220 And I've made some very expensive mistakes over the years, 159 00:06:08,220 --> 00:06:11,060 and I have navigated them well. 160 00:06:11,060 --> 00:06:13,880 And I've made some very expensive mistakes over the years, 161 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:14,960 especially in the early years 162 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,550 where I navigated them very, very poorly. 163 00:06:17,550 --> 00:06:21,710 And I will say no matter how horrible 164 00:06:21,710 --> 00:06:23,670 and fear based that situation is, 165 00:06:23,670 --> 00:06:24,900 there's no way around it. 166 00:06:24,900 --> 00:06:26,663 You just have to go right through it.