WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.000 This is Danny Green. 00:00:01.000 --> 00:00:04.600 I'm about to talk to Keanu Reeves and Alex Lindner about Bill 00:00:04.600 --> 00:00:06.500 and Ted face the music Bill and Ted free. 00:00:06.500 --> 00:00:08.700 Thanks for doing this guy's I really appreciate it. 00:00:08.700 --> 00:00:15.500 Fantastic in 29 years for this. 00:00:15.500 --> 00:00:16.700 So it was worth the wait. 00:00:16.700 --> 00:00:19.200 I saw a Bogus Journey back in 91. 00:00:19.200 --> 00:00:23.100 I'm waiting ever since so I've been hearing about this for so 00:00:23.100 --> 00:00:23.900 many years now. 00:00:23.900 --> 00:00:28.700 So that's what took so long, you know, 00:00:28.700 --> 00:00:30.200 the pyramids were built in a day, 00:00:30.200 --> 00:00:34.900 you know, the riders came to us about 8 years ago 9 years ago 00:00:34.900 --> 00:00:39.500 with an idea and you know, we all everyone involved with Bill 00:00:39.500 --> 00:00:41.100 and Ted like Alex myself. 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:44.900 Chris Matheson Ed Solomon and the producer Scott Krueger 00:00:44.900 --> 00:00:48.600 really been with the project from the from from the beginning 00:00:48.600 --> 00:00:53.700 of a real affection for the film and when the riders came to you 00:00:53.700 --> 00:00:57.600 know, we were like yeah, we would love to see something 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:01.900 and we started to work on scripts and drafts and people would 00:01:01.900 --> 00:01:06.800 go away and come back and then and it just was taking you know, a 00:01:06.800 --> 00:01:08.400 lot of time beat Dean parisot. 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:09.400 The director came on board. 00:01:09.400 --> 00:01:14.400 I guess I five years ago and then as with Bill and Ted films, 00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:17.300 there's always some kind of business side of the show business 00:01:17.300 --> 00:01:22.400 side that you know, Alex can speak to this but it in the first 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:30.300 film had stopped anyway, and then I think I was just trying 00:01:30.300 --> 00:01:32.600 to tell a good story greatest. 00:01:32.600 --> 00:01:35.200 Yeah, that's not your time to you. 00:01:35.200 --> 00:01:36.900 I mean every piece of it we were 00:01:37.900 --> 00:01:40.200 Talking about this a lot of he went to a lot of the same 00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:42.400 people working on it which was really great. 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:46.300 But you knows County said it was Chris and add hash this idea 00:01:46.300 --> 00:01:48.600 brought it to Kiana to myself years ago. 00:01:48.600 --> 00:01:50.400 We loved it without a very funny. 00:01:50.400 --> 00:01:53.600 We've talked over the years and never really talked about doing 00:01:53.600 --> 00:01:56.500 a third one seriously, but just trying to seem very well suited 00:01:56.500 --> 00:02:01.300 to almost any age that it almost gets better the older you are 00:02:01.300 --> 00:02:03.600 we work out in our favor because it turned out we were going 00:02:03.600 --> 00:02:07.800 to be significantly older than we actually made it by the time 00:02:07.800 --> 00:02:15.400 we got made but for now, I'm just like it was when they made 00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:17.800 the first one they'd they'd that grew out of a stand-up 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:19.600 routine that used to have in this was just, 00:02:19.600 --> 00:02:23.400 you know, the The Pact we made the four of us back in the 00:02:23.400 --> 00:02:26.300 beginning was you know, all of us are doing other things. 00:02:26.300 --> 00:02:27.600 None of us need to do those. 00:02:27.600 --> 00:02:29.900 There's no point doing unless we think it's going to be really 00:02:29.900 --> 00:02:33.000 good and and then he went off and he just wrote a spec script 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:36.600 and then we brush got croup back or original producer then we 00:02:36.600 --> 00:02:37.400 got Dean and 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:43.200 We just really went out into the world with the same edx that 00:02:43.200 --> 00:02:45.400 if it can't be done, right there's just no point in making 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:49.800 it at all and and ultimately we were very lucky to be able to 00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:53.800 make it to make it to no to those terms that that we all 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:57.700 have. Yeah, you know, I feel like comedy sequels are the hardest 00:02:57.700 --> 00:02:59.700 kind of sequel to pull off. 00:02:59.700 --> 00:03:03.800 Right? I think Bogus Journey is want to see you part 2 the comedy 00:03:03.800 --> 00:03:05.500 series at ever work. 00:03:05.500 --> 00:03:08.700 Cuz if I was a temptation to just redo the first time do the 00:03:08.700 --> 00:03:12.300 same joke again in the same way and they're less funny. 00:03:12.300 --> 00:03:16.500 So what did Falls of Comedy sequels were you trying to. 00:03:16.500 --> 00:03:27.500 One of them to as to what you were saying like 00:03:28.300 --> 00:03:33.500 You know do the same kind of things but in so we want but 00:03:33.500 --> 00:03:34.400 it at the same time. 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:37.400 We wanted to keep the Buddhist culture what these characters 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:42.200 are and what makes a Bill and Ted still not real but also be 00:03:42.200 --> 00:03:45.600 in the present of it and not I mean Alex you spoken to this 00:03:45.600 --> 00:03:49.700 sense of not wanting to be playing these guys in the present 00:03:49.700 --> 00:03:50.900 like they were in the tax. 00:03:50.900 --> 00:03:57.000 We didn't want to make a meta movie and also to be fair the 00:03:57.000 --> 00:04:00.400 writers were really adamant as well that they do something 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:02.200 new and and we love that it. 00:04:02.200 --> 00:04:04.500 That was exciting for Keanu in myself. 00:04:04.500 --> 00:04:08.700 Why just you know, try to either make a reboot or a retread 00:04:08.700 --> 00:04:11.200 but find some other way into it and I remember the conversation 00:04:11.200 --> 00:04:16.500 we had around bogus was at that Chinese for this is like something 00:04:16.500 --> 00:04:19.200 is when they hatch 3, they took me and Keanu out to dinner 00:04:19.200 --> 00:04:22.500 and they they gave us this trip and I remember when they pitched 00:04:22.500 --> 00:04:24.900 us Bogus Journey, which was called Bill and Ted go to hell the 00:04:24.900 --> 00:04:27.800 time Andrew like that's awesome. 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:31.200 Cuz it That's like it's so completely unexpected. 00:04:31.200 --> 00:04:33.300 I mean, I haven't watched it in years. 00:04:33.300 --> 00:04:35.000 I watched it again when we were doing this. 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:40.800 I thought this was really no time travel really not is this 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:43.700 a complete and utter so I can deal young says about driving 00:04:43.700 --> 00:04:46.100 your car into a ditch after a after a hit. 00:04:46.100 --> 00:04:49.700 Right? Like and I think it did there were people who were a little 00:04:49.700 --> 00:04:52.500 scratching their heads during what why wasn't that where was 00:04:52.500 --> 00:04:54.700 the boot the people enjoyed it? 00:04:54.700 --> 00:04:57.200 And I think we wanted to bring some of that wrist back into 00:04:57.200 --> 00:04:58.900 this oblike. Let's do that. 00:04:58.900 --> 00:05:01.900 Again. Let's really kind of spin the dial and find a way into 00:05:01.900 --> 00:05:05.800 this that's not expected and and bring some surprise. 00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:10.000 Yeah. I keep thinking about pitching Bogus Journey to Studio 00:05:10.000 --> 00:05:11.100 when they must have told him. 00:05:11.100 --> 00:05:14.000 Okay, they died in the first 20 minutes, 00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:21.900 then it's a parody of the seventh seal in the rear. 00:05:21.900 --> 00:05:23.500 But otherwise, it's the same. 00:05:28.300 --> 00:05:32.000 Such a temptation to this time travel again and be more historical 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:36.000 figures and do the same thing, but that wouldn't be a good or just 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:37.100 be watered down first. 00:05:37.100 --> 00:05:43.600 Tell me your memories are reading script on the first movie 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:45.500 and your impressions of it. 00:05:45.500 --> 00:05:52.700 But this guy way back then what you thought of the first our 00:05:52.700 --> 00:06:05.400 first contact with Dylan check-in process where ya so we just 00:06:05.400 --> 00:06:10.500 got pages and I thought they were funny in the in the audition 00:06:10.500 --> 00:06:14.400 process. There was a kind of Bill and Ted audition Crucible 00:06:14.400 --> 00:06:17.400 but there were about ten actors. 00:06:17.400 --> 00:06:21.900 I would say right and then we would all revolve and and interact 00:06:21.900 --> 00:06:23.600 with each other playing Bill and Ted, 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:25.600 but we would sometimes go in and play bills, 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:26.500 aren't you going to play? 00:06:28.300 --> 00:06:33.400 I think Alex and I probably came out at the same way that we 00:06:33.400 --> 00:06:37.100 we weren't commenting on the writing or the characters. 00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:39.300 You know and at 9. 00:06:39.300 --> 00:06:43.300 I mean, I think we played at super sweet and play them is Stoners, 00:06:43.300 --> 00:06:49.500 you know, we weren't Goofy and I think that almost at First 00:06:49.500 --> 00:06:54.600 Strike has been the continuity that brought us all the way through 00:06:54.600 --> 00:07:04.200 Facebook. You know at that age you're getting a lot of material 00:07:04.200 --> 00:07:09.900 and a lot of it is very same say knee and in a lot 00:07:09.900 --> 00:07:12.900 of it is in those days was and I like John Hughes movies, 00:07:12.900 --> 00:07:15.200 but it was a lot of it was John Hughes, 00:07:15.200 --> 00:07:16.900 you're playing a sixteen-year-old. 00:07:16.900 --> 00:07:20.300 He talks like a 40 year old with me no neuroses and sexual 00:07:20.300 --> 00:07:24.100 Hang-Ups and you know, and these guys that went and went the 00:07:24.100 --> 00:07:27.600 other way. They were played like they were played straight, 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:30.000 but they were like 9 or 10 year olds with this extraordinary 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:34.500 Li complex language and that idiosyncrasy struck me as as as I 00:07:34.500 --> 00:07:37.500 I haven't read anything like that and I can tell you 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:41.300 You know like Shannon having come up by then doing theater 00:07:41.300 --> 00:07:41.900 and things like that. 00:07:41.900 --> 00:07:47.400 It's rare to get scrubs when you're that young that had any language 00:07:47.400 --> 00:07:52.000 to them at all that has any complexity iridium or anything 00:07:52.000 --> 00:07:54.500 and so it was just fun. 00:07:54.500 --> 00:08:00.200 And so the auditions even though they were endless and and excruciating 00:08:00.200 --> 00:08:05.300 they were it was funded when you finally got to just go into 00:08:05.300 --> 00:08:09.400 the building to the playground and say that dialogue and and 00:08:09.400 --> 00:08:12.000 it was the same for us on this third one. 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:16.400 I you know the wee wee play the the scrap replay the dialogue. 00:08:16.400 --> 00:08:19.900 So when we bring food to inches best as we can and that's 00:08:19.900 --> 00:08:20.700 like the a.m. 00:08:20.700 --> 00:08:22.400 But it's fun to say these words, 00:08:22.400 --> 00:08:25.100 you know, they write really good works and they write words 00:08:25.100 --> 00:08:28.100 in other back by character and sincerity, 00:08:28.100 --> 00:08:30.500 but the words themselves are really fun to say. 00:08:30.500 --> 00:08:34.500 Yes. So tell me how you guys bonded and the early days but the 00:08:34.500 --> 00:08:37.800 film's don't work if the two of you don't have a really tight. 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:40.200 Chemistry. So how did you come together? 00:08:40.200 --> 00:08:45.100 And those are the days and the answer to form of process 00:08:45.100 --> 00:08:50.900 bikes? I ride bikes. 00:08:50.900 --> 00:08:52.400 Remember one of the auditions. 00:08:52.400 --> 00:08:54.500 They literally it were ridiculous. 00:08:54.500 --> 00:08:59.000 They were like 10 hours long needlessly they broke us for lunch 00:08:59.000 --> 00:08:59.600 for an audition. 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:03.300 And I remember like literally I went back to know who we were 00:09:03.300 --> 00:09:05.400 like want to go for a ride you like to take a motorcycle 00:09:05.400 --> 00:09:07.000 ride in my back to read this house. 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:11.400 We both jammed on base meaning we both play bass with various 00:09:11.400 --> 00:09:26.100 idiosyncrasy of our friendship was actually Duo jambase many 00:09:26.100 --> 00:09:29.800 auditions. And so it was a we became friends through that process 00:09:29.800 --> 00:09:35.200 really or we we know we got to know each other more and during 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:37.800 the making the first movie did feel Spa. 00:09:37.900 --> 00:09:40.800 Did you think you were making something that is different 00:09:40.800 --> 00:09:42.800 and that was going to last that would really make an impact 00:09:42.800 --> 00:09:43.500 on the culture. 00:09:46.400 --> 00:10:02.400 No, I have a little bit of theater in my background classical. 00:10:02.400 --> 00:10:11.200 Trey wasn't just playing bass or riding motorcycles. 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:13.500 You know, we had a kind of quickly. 00:10:13.500 --> 00:10:15.600 We saw a dark humor, you know, 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:23.600 are are dark humor and highways kind of talked about it. 00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:32.000 But I mean, you know, I'm trying to and I could speak out about 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:43.100 that and then saying that I'm sorry for whole year did you? 00:10:46.400 --> 00:10:53.800 Jonas die. I mean referring to we we not only I remember 00:10:53.800 --> 00:10:55.000 I remember one instance. 00:10:55.000 --> 00:10:56.500 My memory is pretty terrible. 00:10:56.500 --> 00:10:59.500 Remember one instance when we were shooting at the Socrates 00:10:59.500 --> 00:11:02.800 seen in Rome and we're sitting there so, 00:11:02.800 --> 00:11:05.500 you know holding the history book and looking at remember 00:11:05.500 --> 00:11:06.500 the tape right? 00:11:06.500 --> 00:11:08.800 Remember that there was traffic noise everywhere shooting 00:11:08.800 --> 00:11:10.900 in The Piazza in The Piazza. 00:11:10.900 --> 00:11:31.900 Venezia location are going like literally right for going and 00:11:31.900 --> 00:11:36.100 was Sheldon. We were told that it was never going to be released 00:11:36.100 --> 00:11:37.600 them. Damn it took a full year, 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:40.100 which is you know, what that AJ in eternity. 00:11:40.100 --> 00:11:42.000 So we both just move. 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:43.400 Like it wasn't even a consideration. 00:11:43.400 --> 00:11:46.100 We had an enormous amount of fun making me really 00:11:46.400 --> 00:11:48.900 Enjoyed the people that we made it with you all very young. 00:11:48.900 --> 00:11:54.700 Everyone worked really really hard to look at movies are there 00:11:54.700 --> 00:12:00.100 but they are really freaking hard and they're very complicated 00:12:00.100 --> 00:12:01.000 format own standpoint. 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:05.200 Everyone Riders producers directors everyone to work in their 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:08.100 backsides. I think they're never made for tons and tons of money. 00:12:08.100 --> 00:12:10.900 So they're always reaching way farther than the money we have 00:12:10.900 --> 00:12:15.600 another one of those movies were like the frame looks really 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:18.300 great. But if the camera move like a quarter of a centimeter, 00:12:18.300 --> 00:12:22.400 you would see like chewing gum and string and like, 00:12:22.400 --> 00:12:25.000 you know, people hanging upside down trying to hold a piece 00:12:25.000 --> 00:12:27.300 of asset and it's still like that. 00:12:27.300 --> 00:12:33.000 So that was it was disappointing but we also both know we did 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:35.800 around in the business end and I so yeah, 00:12:35.800 --> 00:12:38.000 we didn't expect it to come out and it was very it was a 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:42.800 ton of a sweet surprise when we were told that it was bought 00:12:42.800 --> 00:12:45.800 out of a fire sale by Nelson that they adjusted the film 00:12:46.400 --> 00:12:51.800 Through the roof the beginning of a little bit of Hope for a Bogus Journey 00:12:51.800 --> 00:12:56.100 cuz it's so fantastically weird. 00:12:56.100 --> 00:12:59.600 Do you ever worry that was going too far off in an insane 00:12:59.600 --> 00:13:01.600 direction mean there's two aliens. 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:12.400 Dad wanted to each other and just so Bonkers in studio ball 00:13:12.400 --> 00:13:16.400 cap weirdness. Did did you hit any resistance on making it so 00:13:16.400 --> 00:13:21.600 the real I mean behind a curtain or inside baseball while we were 00:13:21.600 --> 00:13:28.100 making the Galaxy's earlier point we always stood me to the end 00:13:28.100 --> 00:13:29.200 of the film. 00:13:29.200 --> 00:13:32.600 The stories are always larger than the financial business 00:13:32.600 --> 00:13:33.300 appetite. 00:13:33.900 --> 00:13:39.300 Right. There was a point where Bogus Journey the ending of that 00:13:39.300 --> 00:13:43.900 picture with a particular way just one example would be huge 00:13:43.900 --> 00:13:49.600 rabbits chasing it up Highway car chase and where the studio 00:13:49.600 --> 00:13:55.100 eventually I started calling it Bill and Ted's Adventure 00:13:55.100 --> 00:13:59.300 just be omitted omitted. 00:13:59.300 --> 00:14:03.200 I don't think it was a creative barking at it. 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:04.500 I think so. 00:14:04.500 --> 00:14:05.300 I just answer your question. 00:14:05.300 --> 00:14:09.200 No, I wasn't really privy to the behind-the-scenes 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:12.100 Studios stuff. But I do know that you know, 00:14:12.100 --> 00:14:15.800 we didn't want to kind of make it large even bigger. 00:14:15.800 --> 00:14:19.900 I need a bigger movie and then I think they were like, 00:14:19.900 --> 00:14:26.200 but I don't think creatively there was a kind of ism there 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:31.500 a lot of ways is that William stadler's but I take on death 00:14:31.500 --> 00:14:35.000 is so damn funny that has seen What you play Battleship 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:38.200 with them as long as funny as seen data history of Cinema. 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:52.100 Perfect, See will Sadler's is a brilliant physical actor was a 00:14:52.100 --> 00:14:53.000 brilliant actor. 00:14:53.000 --> 00:14:58.200 But he is a brilliant physical actor and there was a there 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:00.700 were a lot of really joyful moments making three, 00:15:00.700 --> 00:15:06.400 but I just remember the kind of feeling I had when we sort of 00:15:06.400 --> 00:15:09.400 like, I don't want to spoil animal waste her walk out of the 00:15:09.400 --> 00:15:13.200 doors and Ygritte I so weak read him for the first time in years 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:17.000 and I was like, I don't know we shot it kind of an order 00:15:17.000 --> 00:15:24.500 that sequence. I just overthinking it out we get to get back 00:15:24.500 --> 00:15:28.600 in the ring with Sadler and and it was as satisfying as expected. 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:32.800 He was throwing all these ad libs out there all genius and we 00:15:32.800 --> 00:15:33.700 just ripped man. 00:15:33.900 --> 00:15:37.500 We just like we get into that scene at the door. 00:15:37.500 --> 00:15:42.100 We're just it's just like on like Grey Poupon and let me know 00:15:42.100 --> 00:15:45.500 it was Idaho for me cuz I I've been on the other side of 00:15:45.500 --> 00:15:46.800 the camera mostly 4 years. 00:15:46.800 --> 00:15:49.700 That's what is so great about act. 00:15:49.700 --> 00:15:52.400 Right like, you know, it's how I was you know, 00:15:52.400 --> 00:15:54.000 the first week with kyani were like, 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:57.500 I think we had you some more weirder stuff that week 9 dismember 00:15:57.500 --> 00:16:00.000 like shooting up to do that weird stuff in like walking on the 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:08.700 set with him and my it was just on the patio Mansion scene. 00:16:08.700 --> 00:16:10.600 I just thinking, yep. 00:16:10.600 --> 00:16:12.600 That's why I enjoy this. 00:16:13.700 --> 00:16:17.600 Yeah, it's been Genius of Chris and Ed to make a character 00:16:17.600 --> 00:16:21.100 like to death but he's also stolen and Bitchie. 00:16:21.100 --> 00:16:28.800 Yeah and said was very good at that. 00:16:28.800 --> 00:16:32.800 He's very good at playing the kind of the nuances of of that. 00:16:32.800 --> 00:16:37.000 It's not I mean it is a weirdly nuanced performance or what 00:16:37.000 --> 00:16:45.600 he's like frustrated in like a narcissist like you just bring 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:46.200 me down. 00:16:48.500 --> 00:16:56.400 6.3 education wasn't going to happen after 1 B financing 00:16:56.400 --> 00:17:00.000 there so many years pushing for did you ever just thank God this 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:00.400 will never happen. 00:17:00.400 --> 00:17:02.700 Yes all the time. 00:17:05.100 --> 00:17:09.600 So what drug you cannot keep pushing for cuz you work all the 00:17:09.600 --> 00:17:11.000 time. You're a big movies. 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:14.800 Just what motivated you to keep pushing Hollywood to make his 00:17:14.800 --> 00:17:15.100 movie. 00:17:20.600 --> 00:17:23.000 I mean and hard on me. 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:23.900 I love the character. 00:17:23.900 --> 00:17:25.000 I love working with Alex. 00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:29.000 I love running in the world. 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:32.800 I mean really Alex was part of a kind of like I had to 00:17:32.800 --> 00:17:35.100 be a reason to do and I think of riders came up with a 00:17:35.100 --> 00:17:39.300 really great story and and the over the years people would 00:17:39.300 --> 00:17:42.200 talk to me about are we going to do it again or we going 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:42.700 to do it again? 00:17:42.700 --> 00:17:46.700 And then that started to become even more effective. 00:17:46.700 --> 00:17:48.900 I really felt like an interest in it. 00:17:48.900 --> 00:17:53.600 So internally, I wanted the guile of a characters and then externally 00:17:53.600 --> 00:17:58.300 people were like, let's people's enthusiasm for the characters 00:17:58.300 --> 00:18:01.300 became part of the reason why they make it and then the only 00:18:01.300 --> 00:18:04.700 reason to make it was if there was a good story to tell and 00:18:04.700 --> 00:18:06.200 that's that all came together. 00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:10.600 We really believe that and it's been like this on every Bill 00:18:10.600 --> 00:18:13.400 and Ted movie every every single all three of them are like 00:18:13.400 --> 00:18:17.600 this where it was always kind of ours to lose meeting their 00:18:17.600 --> 00:18:20.400 idiosyncratic movies, but we want them to be idiosyncratic. 00:18:20.600 --> 00:18:24.000 Movies that that's really important to us that's not the kind 00:18:24.000 --> 00:18:27.400 of thing as an immediate care for aspects of the industry. 00:18:27.400 --> 00:18:31.800 So it's always kind of ours to lose them and we'd we knew we 00:18:31.800 --> 00:18:34.900 had to make a film that while being idiosyncratic and and having 00:18:34.900 --> 00:18:40.700 integrity was entertaining enough to to Merritt existing 00:18:40.700 --> 00:18:47.000 amount was the pressure that was honest from the beginning 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:49.500 was the you know, there's got to be a reason discount and I would check 00:18:49.500 --> 00:18:52.800 in with each other a lot of all along the process of like, 00:18:52.800 --> 00:18:56.500 you know, what is this thing holding the line and and their 00:18:56.500 --> 00:18:59.700 Riders did as well very very important to them and then ultimately 00:18:59.700 --> 00:19:03.000 add a crew to to Dean and I just got into the other members 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:06.000 of the core team, but there was that was very much kind of the 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:09.600 check-in all along the way and end the movie Battle their battle to 00:19:09.600 --> 00:19:11.900 get financed through battle to make by Kiana said about 00:19:11.900 --> 00:19:15.700 bogus and we have similar challenges on this one other one funny thing. 00:19:15.700 --> 00:19:18.700 I will say because we're obviously older and much more 00:19:18.700 --> 00:19:21.400 involved he on his produce movies with Play my playlist 00:19:21.400 --> 00:19:24.100 my stuff that I do and you know, 00:19:24.100 --> 00:19:27.500 he said earlier that we were we were not privy to the behind-the-scenes 00:19:27.500 --> 00:19:30.300 on on the first we did not we are not on a need-to-know, 00:19:30.300 --> 00:19:35.100 right? So we were pages in like they have asterisk some stuff 00:19:35.100 --> 00:19:37.400 scratched out and then they would call us again like a year 00:19:37.400 --> 00:19:40.400 later and go it's coming at you have to do pressed and then 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:45.700 there was it right on this one producer saying well now you're 00:19:45.700 --> 00:19:47.500 going to see what it looks like behind the curtain. 00:19:47.500 --> 00:19:51.800 We were like Edward Munch in the scream, 00:19:51.800 --> 00:19:53.200 you know better not to know. 00:19:54.300 --> 00:19:58.700 Crate, so how much did the story change from first conception a 00:19:58.700 --> 00:20:01.200 part 3 to the to the Finish script. 00:20:01.200 --> 00:20:09.600 I can say that Bill and Ted having jet engines playing in the 00:20:09.600 --> 00:20:16.500 Grand Canyon as part of their music Serenity is not in the final 00:20:16.500 --> 00:20:21.600 story. I'm sure getting to the story was topic is part two n's 00:20:21.600 --> 00:20:25.300 and Bill and Ted are a huge rock band playing the Grand Canyon 00:20:25.300 --> 00:20:27.600 going to the Moonlight cover of a rolling stone. 00:20:27.600 --> 00:20:29.300 So, where do you go from there? 00:20:29.300 --> 00:20:32.300 I'm sure there's a challenge to find a way to make a profit 00:20:32.300 --> 00:20:39.300 again. Right that part of it was easier than expected because 00:20:39.300 --> 00:20:44.800 success is so fleeting and it is so Mercurial and Dino the the 00:20:44.800 --> 00:20:49.200 idea that that things did not continue as planned. 00:20:49.200 --> 00:20:53.100 It's just a good comic joke because it's just true right? 00:20:53.100 --> 00:20:56.400 It's funny because it What is the adage that with your life 00:20:56.400 --> 00:20:59.800 that you think is prescribed is absolutely not going to go as 00:20:59.800 --> 00:21:03.400 planned. And so there was a relatability to that it is clear 00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:05.900 that I think the counter and I thought was hilarious of the get-go. 00:21:05.900 --> 00:21:09.900 I think the first thing they said was okay Touch of 25 years 00:21:09.900 --> 00:21:11.200 later and it didn't work. 00:21:11.200 --> 00:21:13.400 You know. That's it. 00:21:13.400 --> 00:21:15.400 I think it's hilarious. 00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:19.000 So that seemed like a good shopping off point. 00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:22.700 I think that there were total questions about how you play these 00:21:22.700 --> 00:21:25.900 characters how much you know joy for life. 00:21:25.900 --> 00:21:29.900 They still have and how you want to read in. 00:21:29.900 --> 00:21:31.700 Time travel on aspects like that. 00:21:31.700 --> 00:21:34.800 There were there were challenges their logic challenges. 00:21:34.800 --> 00:21:38.000 The guys are always really concerned about having time travel 00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:41.800 logic and you know, we had the benefit of a of a quantum 00:21:41.800 --> 00:21:44.600 theory suit quite brilliant to help us with that stuff. 00:21:44.600 --> 00:21:48.500 Seriously. He did his great Spiros. 00:21:48.500 --> 00:21:50.800 Michalakis from Caltech, but 00:21:54.300 --> 00:21:56.900 Budget challenge there a lot of like we got to do this instead 00:21:56.900 --> 00:21:57.400 of that movie. 00:21:57.400 --> 00:22:00.000 We have skin on it count when I work 7 days a week in 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:02.500 a week and we just sat with the scripted work through logic 00:22:02.500 --> 00:22:05.600 and work through how does where to meet whatever challenges 00:22:05.600 --> 00:22:11.800 facing us that week which was usually giant difference 00:22:11.800 --> 00:22:16.800 between Bill and Ted are so similar to sew lock together 00:22:16.800 --> 00:22:20.100 again with spikes and he swims in a way just where do you see 00:22:20.100 --> 00:22:23.000 like big differences in a personalities certainly internally. 00:22:23.000 --> 00:22:27.000 I think they're very different and I think that's there's a 00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:32.000 kind of a salt and pepper sweet and sour by black and white, 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:35.900 but that's where a lot of the comedy comes from even internally 00:22:35.900 --> 00:22:36.700 within a scene. 00:22:36.700 --> 00:22:41.700 There's usually some sort of internal diametric opposition 00:22:41.700 --> 00:22:46.500 not in terms of our goals are or our world you but even just 00:22:46.500 --> 00:22:49.400 emotionally or in terms of how we're responding to a witch 00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:51.900 challenge door crisis that's in front of us that I take it. 00:22:51.900 --> 00:22:53.600 We're a lot of the comedy comes from I think 00:22:54.200 --> 00:22:57.300 That are energies are actually quite different as well, 00:22:57.300 --> 00:23:01.000 which I think there's a lot of comedy in that and you do not 00:23:01.000 --> 00:23:03.500 disappointed not getting too pedantic about it. 00:23:03.500 --> 00:23:08.000 You know, I have zero power and not much of a clue on Bill 00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:11.700 and Ted 1 and so I spent a lot of bills have one on 00:23:11.700 --> 00:23:13.600 an Apple box to even out our height. 00:23:13.600 --> 00:23:16.000 And on this one. 00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:17.200 I was the hours. 00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:18.700 I don't give me an Apple box like, 00:23:18.700 --> 00:23:20.600 you know, that is taller than Bill. 00:23:20.600 --> 00:23:21.900 Like let that be a thing. 00:23:21.900 --> 00:23:25.200 Like that's a good thing right then even in marketing they kept 00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:25.900 like trying to even notice. 00:23:25.900 --> 00:23:31.300 I was like, we're not the same height and that's that's good. 00:23:31.300 --> 00:23:33.300 That's like differentiation is good. 00:23:33.300 --> 00:23:37.100 Right? So I think I even try to lean into the comedy of that 00:23:37.100 --> 00:23:42.300 on this one up there likes playing up some of the physical, 00:23:42.300 --> 00:23:46.200 need a store like we're saying about you know theater. 00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:49.100 That's where a lot of the comedy comes from. 00:23:49.800 --> 00:23:53.800 Yeah, and so how did feed on the first two days of filming 00:23:53.800 --> 00:23:57.300 on your back and character for the first time and play nine 00:23:57.300 --> 00:24:00.000 years and you're working with the same people and there's 00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:15.900 William Sadler actor who spend time together and we had a couple 00:24:15.900 --> 00:24:19.200 of weeks before we started filming so bad kind of goddess. 00:24:19.200 --> 00:24:22.900 Me used to the water and then once we got going to it, 00:24:22.900 --> 00:24:25.500 it's just so much fun to play and it's so much fun. 00:24:25.500 --> 00:24:29.500 You're just going back to just tell me said the beginning 00:24:29.500 --> 00:24:32.300 like there's a there's something about the way we both approach 00:24:32.300 --> 00:24:35.500 characters physically and having we both have a lot of drama 00:24:35.500 --> 00:24:38.700 and theater and the characters are quite theatrical. 00:24:38.700 --> 00:24:40.600 They're not the article and after artificial, 00:24:40.600 --> 00:24:43.800 but they are very physical on there and it's really about engaging 00:24:43.800 --> 00:24:46.400 with the text with your body and. 00:24:46.400 --> 00:24:49.100 For me is really I know that sounds a little ugly little feet 00:24:49.100 --> 00:24:49.500 for the 00:24:49.800 --> 00:24:53.100 Verses of this discussion with this really true like for me when 00:24:53.100 --> 00:24:56.800 we started work on the first day or really sorted by day one 00:24:56.800 --> 00:24:57.700 day to day 3. 00:24:57.700 --> 00:25:00.600 It wasn't so much like oh, you know, 00:25:00.600 --> 00:25:02.000 I've known you a long time. 00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:04.700 So this is nice or what I was really like we're both engaging 00:25:04.700 --> 00:25:06.900 with the text with our bodies again, 00:25:06.900 --> 00:25:11.000 and that's really fun to play and it's really fun to work out. 00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:14.200 Someone else is doing that and coming at it the same way and 00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:19.100 that's why Sadler in this world that's very much the way he acts 00:25:19.100 --> 00:25:22.500 and not everyone does that and it's not like it's bad if they 00:25:22.500 --> 00:25:26.400 don't it's just not what how everyone approaches act that for 00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:31.200 me is why I found the returns at a relatively effortless 00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:34.000 was just because they're getting back in the ring with Keanu 00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:34.500 in that way. 00:25:34.500 --> 00:25:36.500 We just deuced is very natural. 00:25:36.500 --> 00:25:39.500 Like I'll do a risk you'll do something. 00:25:39.500 --> 00:25:47.800 I didn't think about it, you know about Chris and Ed and two 00:25:47.800 --> 00:25:49.400 makes them just so you know, 00:25:49.800 --> 00:25:52.500 Riders cuz if you so much hard in the story, 00:25:52.500 --> 00:25:55.800 which it could be just just a goofy movie that is not grounded. 00:25:55.800 --> 00:25:58.900 But but you really care about the characters you care about 00:25:58.900 --> 00:26:02.600 their Dynamic and their relationship to talk about how Chris 00:26:02.600 --> 00:26:14.400 and dad are so talented at balancing those two things are creators, 00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:17.500 but they're shepherding to and you know, 00:26:17.500 --> 00:26:22.600 the word smithing of the the word smithing with just the intention 00:26:22.600 --> 00:26:25.500 to kind of heightened reality but grounded in reality, 00:26:25.500 --> 00:26:29.500 you know, they have a dimension of the characters. 00:26:29.500 --> 00:26:32.100 I think they care so much about the characters, 00:26:32.100 --> 00:26:36.000 you know, I mean for me I still relate to it is you know, 00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:39.700 the privilege to be handed a flame, 00:26:39.700 --> 00:26:42.100 you know, here is the flame. 00:26:49.700 --> 00:26:55.900 But they also say and make it your own which is the wonderful 00:26:55.900 --> 00:27:00.000 collaboration. They have their kind of polar opposite get the 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:03.500 same kind of dynamic to which I think is caught part of the energy 00:27:03.500 --> 00:27:10.600 of it that you're going to be playing teenagers that are older 00:27:10.600 --> 00:27:14.300 now, but you cared about your marriage and your children, 00:27:14.300 --> 00:27:17.600 this was Bill and Ted their age appropriate but yet themselves 00:27:17.600 --> 00:27:26.900 which is very cool balance develop is how are you going to play 00:27:26.900 --> 00:27:28.200 those guys at this age? 00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:32.600 And the fact is I know a lot of people who are very similar 00:27:32.600 --> 00:27:36.500 to the way they were in their in their teens and 20s not everyone 00:27:36.500 --> 00:27:40.600 is some people really radically change and some people really 00:27:40.600 --> 00:27:43.800 don't they're their dress near the things the way they wear 00:27:43.800 --> 00:27:46.600 their clothes the way they move physically the way they approach 00:27:46.600 --> 00:27:49.400 the world and especially in music. 00:27:49.700 --> 00:27:53.600 Got a lot of friends who are musicians in music is such a sure 00:27:53.600 --> 00:27:54.900 is the right word, but it's you know, 00:27:54.900 --> 00:27:59.400 it's a very essential art form in a lot of my friends are musicians. 00:27:59.400 --> 00:28:05.700 So I know for myself I was taking a bit from Max. I 00:28:05.700 --> 00:28:06.800 wanted to play the game. 00:28:06.800 --> 00:28:09.400 We were very intent on finding these guys authentically. 00:28:09.400 --> 00:28:14.200 So it was it wasn't about like trying to imitate who we were 00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:18.300 as much as looking at the world in a way as people who are 00:28:18.300 --> 00:28:20.700 very similar to the way they were but in a way they're also 00:28:20.700 --> 00:28:24.900 very different and we wanted to leave it out in I need the timing 00:28:24.900 --> 00:28:30.100 is good in a way that people are really ready to escape to Fantasy 00:28:30.100 --> 00:28:33.600 World and laugh again there so few great comedies out there 00:28:33.600 --> 00:28:35.400 these days that really funny one. 00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:38.100 I just think that the world is ready to get the bracelet. 00:28:38.100 --> 00:28:40.200 That's why OK Google. 00:28:43.500 --> 00:28:48.000 I hope to be made a wonderful Spillman everybody who's been 00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:55.800 working out. So there's a lot of love and a meal that is smiling 00:28:55.800 --> 00:28:58.100 at you like seeing old friends again again, 00:28:58.100 --> 00:29:10.900 I've been waiting 29 years for that does Greg love that and you 00:29:10.900 --> 00:29:13.100 get to see a lot of different versions of these guys. 00:29:13.100 --> 00:29:32.800 Do you see any chance of a part for work in has been an 00:29:32.800 --> 00:29:37.000 enormous amount of work on this one because of covid-19 00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:40.100 thing else like every other film there continues to be an enormous 00:29:40.100 --> 00:29:40.700 amount of work. 00:29:40.700 --> 00:29:44.300 So I think we're all very much in the Moment. 00:29:44.300 --> 00:29:47.700 Yeah, right why I think I should do a guy's. 00:29:47.700 --> 00:29:48.900 Thanks again. I loved it. 00:29:48.900 --> 00:29:50.500 I'm so happy to find the app. 00:29:50.500 --> 00:29:57.700 So happy. I'm so glad to hear that. 00:29:57.700 --> 00:29:58.800 Thank you so much. 00:29:58.800 --> 00:30:03.800 Bye bye.