WEBVTT 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:03.700 Apple has finally announced the long-awaited Apple silicone 00:00:03.700 --> 00:00:07.900 Max, but were they worth the wait stick around? 00:00:14.000 --> 00:00:15.900 Hey everyone, welcome back to today and Tack. 00:00:15.900 --> 00:00:18.300 I'm Julia boshamps joined as always by computerworld 00:00:18.300 --> 00:00:21.100 executive editor Ken Mingus as well as mackerel senior writer 00:00:21.100 --> 00:00:22.900 Michael Symon. I'm in a new location. 00:00:22.900 --> 00:00:26.500 We're moving. Please bear with us while we've got this temporary 00:00:26.500 --> 00:00:28.900 space. I'll try to spruce up the walls in the meantime, 00:00:28.900 --> 00:00:34.000 but back to the most important topic at hand Ken were the Apple 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:38.300 silicone Max worth the wait for you Warren. 00:00:38.300 --> 00:00:41.200 In fact, I'm waiting right now from my new 13-inch MacBook 00:00:41.200 --> 00:00:44.200 Pro with 16 gigs of RAM to ship from China. 00:00:44.200 --> 00:00:52.000 I'm at the age where I was shocked explain currently. 00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:57.200 I have a very good computer 2019 MacBook Pro 16 inch model 00:00:57.200 --> 00:01:00.200 and it's going to be a bit of a shift going to a smaller 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:03.600 screen, but I really did want to see what the M1 can do. 00:01:03.600 --> 00:01:07.900 I mean just just based on the early benchmark scores it seem to 00:01:07.900 --> 00:01:10.500 be popping up now probably from from other reviewers 00:01:10.500 --> 00:01:11.600 you are you know, 00:01:14.000 --> 00:01:19.700 It looks like it's it's really really a screamer and I kind of 00:01:19.700 --> 00:01:22.600 want to you know, since I doubt I would certainly have gotten 00:01:22.600 --> 00:01:25.900 a 16 inch MacBook Pro with an M1 if they had it, 00:01:25.900 --> 00:01:28.400 but I guess we're going to have to wait on that. 00:01:28.400 --> 00:01:30.400 So for me though the wait was worth it. And 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:32.500 now I'm waiting and I'm going to have to wait another 00:01:32.500 --> 00:01:34.500 couple weeks. Are you saying you're going to buy another? 00:01:34.500 --> 00:01:41.900 Well, I depends on if I can trace him something at some point 00:01:41.900 --> 00:01:43.100 these things are going to stack up. 00:01:43.100 --> 00:01:46.500 So I've got to find buyers, but I would consider it depending 00:01:46.500 --> 00:01:51.700 on how portable I find the teenagers I go from my office to my 00:01:51.700 --> 00:01:54.400 couch and back to my office and back to my couch. 00:01:54.400 --> 00:02:03.200 So it'll portability is key 13th before this, 00:02:03.200 --> 00:02:05.900 you know that the given that enough that the hardware for the 00:02:05.900 --> 00:02:06.600 screen and everything. 00:02:06.600 --> 00:02:08.000 I should be fine. 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:11.600 I'm a find a little a little constricting but you had made 00:02:13.900 --> 00:02:15.800 I don't you don't know. 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:19.800 I have a 13 inch I've had one for losing my work model. 00:02:19.800 --> 00:02:20.300 I didn't buy it. 00:02:20.300 --> 00:02:25.100 But I like I love the portability the lightness and all that 00:02:25.100 --> 00:02:28.000 stuff. But I do have it hooked up to an external monitor 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:31.100 when I'm at my desk because it's just it's it's it's pretty 00:02:31.100 --> 00:02:35.600 cramped when I'm trying to do like your writing and Safari 00:02:35.600 --> 00:02:40.500 or something and I'm back and forth between Windows so something 00:02:40.500 --> 00:02:44.100 to consider you can these new ones are capable of driving 00:02:44.100 --> 00:02:46.500 that $6,000 Pro XTR. 00:02:46.500 --> 00:02:53.300 Do you know it is a time of austerity and it's only some of 00:02:53.300 --> 00:03:03.700 the things the boss will let me buy and heat up for something. 00:03:03.700 --> 00:03:05.000 That's theoretically a pro. 00:03:05.000 --> 00:03:08.900 It's been a lot of back-and-forth online between the pro model 00:03:08.900 --> 00:03:11.400 in the end the MacBook Air with the M1 as well as to which 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:12.500 one's really the better deal. 00:03:13.900 --> 00:03:18.300 The million-dollar question then we won't know until we would 00:03:18.300 --> 00:03:18.800 we test them. 00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:22.500 I have it under good authority that macworld will have testing 00:03:22.500 --> 00:03:25.800 maybe tomorrow definitely early next week. 00:03:25.800 --> 00:03:29.500 So we'll know the difference between the air in the Pro and it's 00:03:29.500 --> 00:03:35.700 it's interesting. So Apple launched three computers on Tuesday 00:03:35.700 --> 00:03:41.600 the MacBook Air 13-inch MacBook Pro and the Mac Mini. 00:03:42.600 --> 00:03:48.600 All of which are kind of in the same class so to speak but 00:03:48.600 --> 00:03:50.500 they're just wrote that it replaces. 00:03:50.500 --> 00:03:54.900 It was faster than the are relatively significantly 00:03:54.900 --> 00:03:57.800 so but there's a higher model. 00:03:57.800 --> 00:04:01.400 That's the real, you know, the real real Pro and that that hasn't 00:04:01.400 --> 00:04:03.600 been replaced. In fact, they're still selling the until version 00:04:03.600 --> 00:04:05.400 of that would cause 18 hundred bucks. 00:04:05.400 --> 00:04:06.700 And that's the tea. 00:04:06.700 --> 00:04:11.500 I'm the detective that you dig core i7 I think it is and 00:04:12.900 --> 00:04:15.900 That's like that's what I always thought of as where the pro 00:04:15.900 --> 00:04:19.700 starts. Oh, yeah, you could get a 30-minute Pro for 1299 and 00:04:19.700 --> 00:04:22.200 you still can but it's it's you know, 00:04:22.200 --> 00:04:24.300 Apple positions it in in a certain way. 00:04:24.300 --> 00:04:28.900 It has to Thunderbolt ports for one which which is a big difference 00:04:28.900 --> 00:04:29.800 in my mind. 00:04:29.800 --> 00:04:32.100 Like there's there's two on left side and has nothing on the 00:04:32.100 --> 00:04:36.400 right side. If you are pro you don't you have like I have for 00:04:36.400 --> 00:04:40.900 them and I have power I have a drive I have a display and 00:04:40.900 --> 00:04:43.900 I have like a USB hub for other peripheral devices like so you're 00:04:43.900 --> 00:04:50.100 going to need that and those hire models have for rent as does 00:04:50.100 --> 00:04:52.800 be the hiring 13 and pro. 00:04:52.800 --> 00:04:55.800 So the way I look at this release and this is why I didn't 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:58.900 buy one yet as much as I really really want one really want 00:04:58.900 --> 00:05:03.000 tell me. Why why why would you want one even though you're 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:04.900 home because this is what I've been waiting for. 00:05:04.900 --> 00:05:06.800 I've literally written about this numerous times. 00:05:07.800 --> 00:05:11.100 I have been waiting for Apple to just blow the doors off the 00:05:11.100 --> 00:05:15.900 neck. They've been somewhat constrained over the course of the 00:05:15.900 --> 00:05:18.400 less, but will save three to four years, 00:05:18.400 --> 00:05:21.700 you know when when they switch to Intel in 05. 00:05:22.900 --> 00:05:26.200 The the transition was you know, it was okay speed there are 00:05:26.200 --> 00:05:34.600 what they are and and here's a couple of weeks and we saw like 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:47.500 why they needed to change because Intel had better stay you don't 00:05:47.500 --> 00:05:51.300 know Apple was able to take the the the power books in the iBooks 00:05:51.300 --> 00:05:55.200 of old and really transform them into these new devices. 00:05:55.200 --> 00:05:59.500 We have the touch bar things like that better battery life certainly 00:05:59.500 --> 00:06:04.400 better speeds and then until allowed that in the immediacy 00:06:04.400 --> 00:06:05.700 of the transition. 00:06:06.500 --> 00:06:12.700 Once we hit like 2,000 and like a remedy iPhone came out today 00:06:12.700 --> 00:06:13.400 2017. 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:29.800 Atmo know what go like 2012, they stopped hitting their benchmarks 00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:31.700 on the on the chip itself. 00:06:31.700 --> 00:06:33.900 So they're still stuck on I think it's a 10 nanometers 00:06:33.900 --> 00:06:35.900 process or 11 that they're using. 00:06:35.900 --> 00:06:39.500 So, you know, just a quick little Readers Digest the smaller 00:06:39.500 --> 00:06:44.400 than the smaller than the dye process the the more power-efficient 00:06:44.400 --> 00:06:52.900 in the end in the more transistors and I didn't really change 00:06:52.900 --> 00:06:57.100 their there. They're phab prices in a long time and they tried 00:06:57.100 --> 00:07:01.600 and they've had roadblocks and Apple has Apple's iPhone 12 in 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:09.400 the world on that scale that is that small in that efficient 00:07:09.400 --> 00:07:10.500 in that fast and 00:07:11.200 --> 00:07:14.800 Apple's been waiting now for Intel to know to deliver something 00:07:14.800 --> 00:07:18.400 maybe not 5 nanometers, but something 7 nanometers maybe nine 00:07:18.400 --> 00:07:25.300 tails Generations their their iterations. 00:07:25.300 --> 00:07:27.900 They're not they're not massive leaks and Apple has wanted 00:07:27.900 --> 00:07:28.500 to do a mess. 00:07:28.500 --> 00:07:32.100 And we both in turn the bead battery life and innovation 00:07:32.100 --> 00:07:36.600 in the back and they've been criticized because they have it and 00:07:36.600 --> 00:07:39.700 a lot of that is because of the chip now, 00:07:39.700 --> 00:07:44.300 I'm not blaming until completely because Apple I think at some 00:07:44.300 --> 00:07:46.700 points that are you know, what forget this we're going to work 00:07:46.700 --> 00:07:47.300 on this 00:07:48.400 --> 00:07:50.700 So they've been working on this for a dino probably 5 years 00:07:50.700 --> 00:07:54.100 and it actually said listen to adjust will upgrade the max with 00:07:54.100 --> 00:07:54.700 what we can do. 00:07:54.700 --> 00:07:56.700 We're not going to blow anything out here. 00:07:56.700 --> 00:07:59.200 We're not going to do anything super Innovative because we have 00:07:59.200 --> 00:08:04.900 something coming. So this new this new chip system-on-chip 00:08:04.900 --> 00:08:11.900 is just crazy crazy the unified memory the controllers 00:08:11.900 --> 00:08:12.600 that are open. 00:08:12.600 --> 00:08:16.400 I mean, it's just it's just that's that's what I want to see 00:08:16.400 --> 00:08:21.900 in action and you got the ISP from the iPhone image from the 00:08:21.900 --> 00:08:25.100 iPhone. So even though they didn't know which I don't know why 00:08:25.100 --> 00:08:32.500 I will be better if you stayed the the unified memory so it only 00:08:32.500 --> 00:08:36.500 goes up to 16 gigs now, but that'll you know, 00:08:36.500 --> 00:08:40.300 those limitations will increase as we get to hire models the 00:08:40.300 --> 00:08:41.000 speeds. 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:46.000 We haven't like we haven't got any like real in-depth analysis 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:50.400 yet where we're basing this on the bench scores that have kind of 00:08:50.400 --> 00:08:54.200 been floating around the net and I mean, 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:58.500 it's absurd the speakers are there their they're almost as fast 00:08:58.500 --> 00:09:01.900 as like like Intel's top-of-the-line desktop prices are ridiculous. 00:09:01.900 --> 00:09:09.600 And I remember correctly 20 hours yet 20 hours on the MacBook 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:11.600 Pro. I think 18 on the MacBook Air. 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:21.300 I must you know 75% better than before. 00:09:21.300 --> 00:09:24.600 It's an apple usually is very conservative. 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:28.900 So you're going to get that possibly more. 00:09:29.900 --> 00:09:34.000 Now I want all that and I was ready to buy one. 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:37.400 I know I had to go to back him in a long long time 00:09:37.400 --> 00:09:40.600 and I I I use Chromebooks and I use my work machine and I've 00:09:40.600 --> 00:09:41.800 been waiting for something like this. 00:09:41.800 --> 00:09:44.100 So why did you wait? 00:09:44.100 --> 00:09:45.100 Why are you holding off? 00:09:45.100 --> 00:09:47.600 Because I think that in six months are 8 months. 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:54.800 There's going to be a new 13 inch or 14 in pro model is 00:09:54.800 --> 00:09:56.900 going to make me regret the purges that I make this week. 00:09:56.900 --> 00:10:06.700 I think it'll have delivered today. 00:10:06.700 --> 00:10:08.800 I would never buy an air previously. 00:10:08.800 --> 00:10:10.500 I want something higher than that. 00:10:10.500 --> 00:10:13.600 I would buy a 13in pro but not the model they came out with 00:10:13.600 --> 00:10:15.400 I want that $1,800. 00:10:15.400 --> 00:10:17.200 I want Thirty to give you the rent. 00:10:20.100 --> 00:10:23.300 4 Thunderbolt ports and I want you know, 00:10:23.300 --> 00:10:26.800 the M2 or or the M1 ex or whatever they're going to do to 00:10:26.800 --> 00:10:32.500 it to create a pretty decent golf between the MacBook Air and 00:10:32.500 --> 00:10:34.300 MacBook Pro. Yeah. 00:10:34.300 --> 00:10:35.700 I totally I totally agree. 00:10:35.700 --> 00:10:37.700 This is like a transitional device. 00:10:37.700 --> 00:10:42.100 This is really one foot at least in terms of form factor one 00:10:42.100 --> 00:10:43.000 foot in the old world. 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:46.400 And then with the under the hood system-on-chip and everything 00:10:46.400 --> 00:10:57.300 one foot in the new world and like if you if you came out 00:10:57.300 --> 00:10:59.900 with the chip and a massive redesign. 00:11:00.600 --> 00:11:03.200 People aren't focusing on what they're supposed to be focusing 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:08.600 on Apple delivered speed performance and battery life, 00:11:08.600 --> 00:11:11.700 which is what we are looking for right now in 6 months to a year 00:11:11.700 --> 00:11:14.700 when everything else not throwing out then that's we're 00:11:14.700 --> 00:11:18.100 going to start to see like what Apple can really do with these 00:11:18.100 --> 00:11:25.000 chips, but from the Starting Gate, it's insane that I know we've 00:11:25.000 --> 00:11:29.400 never seen a leaf like this in a PC ever anywhere is it just 00:11:29.400 --> 00:11:39.600 doesn't happen, There was a lot of discussion online about 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:43.800 whether or not you know, the other the Rival companies 00:11:43.800 --> 00:11:46.700 are would like stick their heads in the in the dirt and pretended 00:11:46.700 --> 00:11:48.400 that Apple's not making this big league, 00:11:48.400 --> 00:11:50.900 but they're going to have to depend tension to it. 00:11:50.900 --> 00:11:54.600 Let me ask you, you know, the one of the big limitations 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:57.100 if you will or certainly one of the things that's interesting 00:11:57.100 --> 00:11:59.700 it is that the only two options 8 gigs of RAM. 00:12:00.600 --> 00:12:04.300 That's what it was before. 00:12:04.300 --> 00:12:12.900 The 32 gig is on the higher model 16 Pro and the 13th to 00:12:12.900 --> 00:12:16.700 gigahertz core i7 13 inch like yeah, 00:12:16.700 --> 00:12:19.500 it does seem like they were really didn't they just didn't 00:12:19.500 --> 00:12:29.000 upgrade the whole lot 13 inch pro pro pro Max. 00:12:29.000 --> 00:12:31.700 I would have bought that whatever that means. 00:12:31.700 --> 00:12:39.400 They never did the new version of the chip like so with the iPhone 00:12:39.400 --> 00:12:49.200 and iPad they have the 8:14 or 12 and then they didn't bore 00:12:49.200 --> 00:12:52.300 performance for the for the iPad Pro. 00:12:53.100 --> 00:12:55.700 I assume they're going to do something similar to how the M1 in 00:12:55.700 --> 00:12:57.900 these and then em1x crazy or whatever. 00:12:57.900 --> 00:13:01.400 They call it that give you a little bit more something 00:13:01.400 --> 00:13:04.500 Apple isn't saying anything about anything so we don't know 00:13:04.500 --> 00:13:09.200 clock speed. We don't know boost and cash and all that stuff. 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:11.200 Like they're just it's just like yours a chip. 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:15.900 I assume is the difference between the current air and and the 00:13:15.900 --> 00:13:20.700 and the pro because one of the fan in one doesn't soda Pro that 00:13:20.700 --> 00:13:25.400 there's any proof that you got has to have at least a sustained 00:13:25.400 --> 00:13:26.900 performance boots that the air. 00:13:26.900 --> 00:13:29.800 Is it going to get I'm assuming it's got a Haier Air Max that 00:13:29.800 --> 00:13:32.200 it can go to sustain level for a longer. 00:13:32.200 --> 00:13:43.200 Of time because it got the fan 20 gigs whatever cuz they don't 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:46.900 do that but I did expect them to somewhat differentiate 00:13:46.900 --> 00:13:48.900 them at least for the the Layman. 00:13:49.600 --> 00:13:52.400 To walk into a store and say okay now I'm getting this and getting 00:13:52.400 --> 00:13:54.400 that if you walk if you compare the air in the frow. 00:13:55.400 --> 00:13:56.400 Just on Apple's website. 00:13:57.700 --> 00:14:00.900 The difference is like the touch bar and touch bar. 00:14:00.900 --> 00:14:04.200 I don't really care. 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:05.400 It doesn't bother me. 00:14:05.400 --> 00:14:11.000 It's okay looking at Fan vs. 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:13.300 No fan and you're looking at a slight difference in screen 00:14:13.300 --> 00:14:23.000 brightness 500 and it's on the Pro 400 on the air lines always 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:26.200 on my butt. 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:33.900 Like usually you keep it up 60% brightness. 00:14:33.900 --> 00:14:39.200 I like brightness down even though we don't know about the M1 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:46.100 XM 2 and 3, whatever this opens up a long Runway of of advances 00:14:46.100 --> 00:14:49.900 over the next few years both in terms of out the the processor 00:14:49.900 --> 00:14:53.100 in the system on chip and end just design. 00:14:53.100 --> 00:14:56.100 I mean, there will be many things that Apple could do with design 00:14:56.100 --> 00:14:57.300 nail and I think they might have been 00:14:57.700 --> 00:15:01.500 Strained because they had the Intel chips had to build in fans 00:15:01.500 --> 00:15:10.100 and keep them in a thermally limited in some ways from Apple's 00:15:10.100 --> 00:15:11.100 website maybe with the picture. 00:15:11.100 --> 00:15:14.600 They took of the Mac Mini so you can take off that that bottom 00:15:14.600 --> 00:15:18.600 piece and this is like a ton of space in it now because they 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:25.100 don't need all the elements that they needed before to keep 00:15:25.100 --> 00:15:25.900 these chips cool. 00:15:25.900 --> 00:15:27.900 I mean the fact that the MacBook Air 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:32.100 Is running at the speed stat be no. 00:15:32.100 --> 00:15:36.600 We assume it is and doesn't have a fan is just mind-boggling, 00:15:36.600 --> 00:15:44.900 you know, the unified memory unified Ram sort of feeding 00:15:44.900 --> 00:15:48.400 both. You know that this is the operating system the graphics 00:15:48.400 --> 00:15:51.500 everything how that how that's going to work or whether that. I 00:15:51.500 --> 00:15:53.300 mean, it seems to be a good thing because you're basically, 00:15:53.300 --> 00:15:55.700 you know, you're putting everything closer to the ram. 00:15:55.700 --> 00:15:57.900 So, you know, if things should be faster, 00:15:57.900 --> 00:16:00.300 but do we know yet how that's I mean, 00:16:00.300 --> 00:16:02.000 we don't apples that's another one. They 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:05.600 were they haven't really ddr4 right? 00:16:05.600 --> 00:16:07.700 We don't know what speeds it's running at. 00:16:07.700 --> 00:16:10.500 We don't know how it's working with the chips. 00:16:10.500 --> 00:16:13.000 And you know, we just know that it's all somehow packed onto 00:16:13.000 --> 00:16:19.800 this little tiny minutes. 00:16:19.800 --> 00:16:23.000 It's just from a from a strictly engineering stand, 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:23.800 but I don't care what 00:16:24.500 --> 00:16:26.000 Oh West flag you fly. 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:29.200 You have to just stand back and say well that's too damn impressive 00:16:29.200 --> 00:16:33.800 ultimately, you know, Juliet back to your original questions. 00:16:33.800 --> 00:16:37.100 Like why when I go ahead with something that Scott's really 00:16:37.100 --> 00:16:40.300 his sort of a transitional model even though it's got the latest 00:16:40.300 --> 00:16:43.500 chip. It's it's like I do have an appreciation for the engineering 00:16:43.500 --> 00:16:47.300 that has gone into this and I kind of just want to see it in 00:16:47.300 --> 00:16:50.100 action, you know, even if this is not a laptop that I would 00:16:50.100 --> 00:16:52.800 necessarily keep her three or four years who knows it might 00:16:52.800 --> 00:17:00.500 be early do something in a few months depending on what app for 00:17:00.500 --> 00:17:03.300 Apple is going so it's a glimpse of the future that I can I 00:17:03.300 --> 00:17:07.100 can use now so that that's sort of my rationale to myself. 00:17:07.100 --> 00:17:15.100 Anyway, there's a lot to like you it's it's very impressive 00:17:15.100 --> 00:17:19.500 what they did and you know, there are questions like how do all 00:17:19.500 --> 00:17:23.500 of the old apps run how fast there's some 00:17:24.500 --> 00:17:29.400 Words that say it's about so native apps are no blazingly 00:17:29.400 --> 00:17:33.300 fast apples apson and whatever has been updated for Big Sur and 00:17:33.300 --> 00:17:38.900 for the for the at the emulation which is Rosetta to which 00:17:38.900 --> 00:17:41.300 I'll run all your old apps from you from your current system 00:17:41.300 --> 00:17:47.800 is about 50% of those speeds which sounds awful but honestly, 00:17:47.800 --> 00:18:02.000 that's probably faster than 50% even if it's going to be very 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:02.700 quick. 00:18:03.800 --> 00:18:08.400 Three months maybe and most of the apps that we want Photoshop 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:14.300 things like that will be a running natively on a Apple silicone. 00:18:14.300 --> 00:18:17.700 I mean some of the some of the more intensive ones like maybe 00:18:17.700 --> 00:18:19.500 pixelmator and Premier things like that. 00:18:19.500 --> 00:18:20.700 It might take a little bit longer. 00:18:20.700 --> 00:18:25.900 But Apple's App State Road is already on Final Cut Is is obviously 00:18:25.900 --> 00:18:27.300 optimised as is logic. 00:18:27.300 --> 00:18:31.500 So you don't they say that it's not as you know, 00:18:31.500 --> 00:18:34.300 what when I say they I mean developers say that there's some 00:18:34.300 --> 00:18:37.100 work to be done but it's not nearly as as labor-intensive 00:18:37.100 --> 00:18:40.300 as the as the last transition with with the with the tools that 00:18:40.300 --> 00:18:43.000 Apple has righted so, I don't think I'm going to take years. 00:18:43.000 --> 00:18:44.300 I think it'll snow now. 00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:55.600 So you're going to log into the App Store on Big Sur with your 00:18:55.600 --> 00:18:57.500 new machine and see a hope. 00:18:57.500 --> 00:19:00.200 So I borrowed of iPhone apps and iPad. 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:07.300 I don't know how was there but you know, 00:19:07.300 --> 00:19:11.000 you just opened up your Mac to like I don't know a couple 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:14.300 hundred thousand really good really useful utilities that weren't 00:19:14.300 --> 00:19:17.400 available before, you know, it's also interesting to us back 00:19:17.400 --> 00:19:17.800 to our discussion. 00:19:17.800 --> 00:19:20.600 We've had off and on leading up to this in terms of pricing 00:19:20.600 --> 00:19:23.400 because you know, this is the sort of thing where Apple could 00:19:23.400 --> 00:19:26.700 have, you know, bumped up prices a couple hundred bucks or getting 00:19:26.700 --> 00:19:31.100 the latest greatest and it did in fact wasn't one of the device 00:19:31.100 --> 00:19:35.300 is a hundred bucks cheaper and I'm in the mini is it is a 00:19:35.300 --> 00:19:36.300 hundred bucks to correct. 00:19:36.300 --> 00:19:39.100 I mean so that, you know, if they could have taken they could 00:19:39.100 --> 00:19:43.000 have taken advantage of this to try to to try to get out a 00:19:43.000 --> 00:19:48.600 little bit and it's best I can tell I don't think everybody 00:19:48.600 --> 00:19:49.400 wants a price decrease. 00:19:50.400 --> 00:19:54.600 but for what we see about that that Mac again 999 must treat 00:19:54.600 --> 00:19:58.600 him good and you know this also the machine that we have now 00:19:58.600 --> 00:20:05.800 a year from now, let's say they are with the M249 99 Apple 00:20:05.800 --> 00:20:16.400 could sell this one for the best phones out there and if you 00:20:16.400 --> 00:20:19.800 don't necessarily need the speed and the and the improvements 00:20:19.800 --> 00:20:23.500 the camera improvements and whatever the MacBook Air brings 00:20:23.500 --> 00:20:27.100 let's say it brings a new face ID system or something like that 00:20:27.100 --> 00:20:31.300 if you don't need or want that stuff you'll probably be able 00:20:31.300 --> 00:20:31.700 to get 00:20:33.100 --> 00:20:37.400 I still one of the best max out there for you know, 00:20:37.400 --> 00:20:41.600 800 bucks assuming Apple follows that that that thing and they've 00:20:41.600 --> 00:20:43.900 never really done that before because it's not really, 00:20:43.900 --> 00:20:49.600 you know, when you're buying the chips to savings aren't there 00:20:49.600 --> 00:20:53.500 like like they are now so Apple can do a lot with pricing a 00:20:53.500 --> 00:20:56.500 lot with Innovation a lot with Nino with just you know, 00:20:56.500 --> 00:21:01.000 the road map that there that they have now by controlling 00:21:01.000 --> 00:21:04.600 this whole thing and the OS is just you know, 00:21:04.600 --> 00:21:10.600 like the sky's the limit for the three events that Apple's 00:21:10.600 --> 00:21:11.200 had this year. 00:21:11.200 --> 00:21:15.200 This is the biggest you know what it means for the company's 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:19.400 future what it means her software, you know Hardware all of it. 00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:22.400 It's just it's it's it's a big one the and one more thing is 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:22.900 a big one. 00:21:23.800 --> 00:21:24.300 Yeah, I agree. 00:21:24.300 --> 00:21:27.500 I mean it's not going to be the biggest in terms of sales as 00:21:27.500 --> 00:21:30.900 the iPhone and it won't even be the biggest in terms of influence 00:21:30.900 --> 00:21:32.800 probably cuz you know, the Apple watches are too but 00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:36.400 like 3-4 years from now. 00:21:36.400 --> 00:21:38.900 We're going to look back on this as a as a watershed moment 00:21:38.900 --> 00:21:42.400 where Apple really, you know, where all these things start to 00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:47.400 converge and it starts to separate itself from the pack. 00:21:47.400 --> 00:21:51.900 I mean before Tuesday the MacBook Air was absolutely comprable 00:21:51.900 --> 00:21:56.800 to anyting Hewlett-Packard Del there weren't they were they 00:21:56.800 --> 00:21:57.500 use the same ships? 00:21:57.500 --> 00:21:58.400 They were they were very similar. 00:21:58.400 --> 00:22:02.500 So people can walk into a store and say I can get a 999 00:22:02.500 --> 00:22:07.500 air or a 599 Del and they're about the same speed and they do 00:22:07.500 --> 00:22:08.200 about the same stuff. 00:22:08.200 --> 00:22:11.500 And now I'm getting the next report on the that's not the case 00:22:11.500 --> 00:22:16.600 anymore. Now, you're getting a 999 are that performs like maybe 00:22:16.600 --> 00:22:23.700 even more so for noticing and they're buying them. 00:22:24.500 --> 00:22:27.300 And I think that this is really going to going to going to look 00:22:27.300 --> 00:22:28.600 back and say in a while. 00:22:28.600 --> 00:22:33.600 Apple really just finally became in one of the industry 00:22:33.600 --> 00:22:37.300 leaders and isn't just like a nice player anymore agreed. 00:22:37.300 --> 00:22:38.700 I mean, it's an inflection point. 00:22:38.700 --> 00:22:40.200 I mean you're going to buy like a hundred of them. 00:22:48.300 --> 00:22:50.700 Worth the wait, Mike, you're going to wait a little bit more 00:22:50.700 --> 00:22:54.700 but importantly it's not like apples really ever going to go back 00:22:54.700 --> 00:22:57.400 from this now that they're doing their own chips. 00:22:57.400 --> 00:22:58.800 They have their M1 processors. 00:22:58.800 --> 00:23:00.600 It's not like they're ever really going to be returning 00:23:00.600 --> 00:23:01.300 to an Intel. 00:23:01.300 --> 00:23:08.600 Yeah. This is the last one there still selling until I don't 00:23:08.600 --> 00:23:11.100 expect to see any new until Max ever, 00:23:11.100 --> 00:23:14.800 but they will sell the old ones as long as people need them. 00:23:14.800 --> 00:23:17.800 I want them probably until in in to 2022. I 00:23:17.800 --> 00:23:21.000 would think particularly with the Mac Pro but once they all 00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:25.300 went stale change over and that's it and you know, 00:23:25.300 --> 00:23:32.200 Apple's not really of a huge client of Intel based on the PC makers. 00:23:32.200 --> 00:23:36.900 But if I was in till I would be very very concerned and to 00:23:36.900 --> 00:23:40.400 a lesser extent AMD as well because I know how cool is really 00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:45.400 they really made of Quantum Leap Year in several areas, 00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:47.600 and then just getting started agreed. 00:23:48.500 --> 00:23:51.500 Alright, well, thank you both so much as always for joining 00:23:51.500 --> 00:23:53.200 me. 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