1 00:00:00,050 --> 00:00:02,010 - Out of the gate, you think the Vicki Ellis 2 00:00:02,010 --> 00:00:05,237 is this b-i-t-c-h. - You can say it. 3 00:00:05,237 --> 00:00:06,070 - Bitch. 4 00:00:06,070 --> 00:00:07,393 - Why do I (panting) have to wear 5 00:00:07,393 --> 00:00:09,150 (panting) the crown right now? 6 00:00:09,150 --> 00:00:10,270 - To remind you who you're gonna be 7 00:00:10,270 --> 00:00:11,530 when you wake up tomorrow. 8 00:00:11,530 --> 00:00:12,863 - Miss Oklahoma! 9 00:00:13,924 --> 00:00:14,757 - Amen. 10 00:00:19,924 --> 00:00:20,933 - I'm curious to know, how did you prepare? 11 00:00:20,933 --> 00:00:23,560 Not necessarily for the role itself, 12 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,600 but how to talk about this role 13 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,210 and the world that it inhabits, 14 00:00:27,210 --> 00:00:29,030 because it's a show that's happening 15 00:00:29,030 --> 00:00:31,230 in a very specific time for women. 16 00:00:31,230 --> 00:00:36,230 - For me, it was finding the reality in a world that, 17 00:00:36,370 --> 00:00:38,674 for me, I don't know anything about. 18 00:00:38,674 --> 00:00:41,310 That whole beauty pageant world. 19 00:00:41,310 --> 00:00:44,270 But what I do know is that we are bombarded every day 20 00:00:44,270 --> 00:00:48,570 with images of perfection or fake perfection. 21 00:00:48,570 --> 00:00:51,970 It deals with very, very current questions 22 00:00:51,970 --> 00:00:55,892 and tries to understand that through the facade 23 00:00:55,892 --> 00:00:58,960 of someone who has it all pulled together, 24 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:03,735 who has that desire for perfection, whatever that is, 25 00:01:03,735 --> 00:01:07,180 is that we all are human, and there's vulnerabilities, 26 00:01:07,180 --> 00:01:09,838 and there's fractures, and there's cracks in the surface. 27 00:01:09,838 --> 00:01:12,130 - I know that you weren't necessarily a pageant queen, 28 00:01:12,130 --> 00:01:13,830 but you were a dancer for years. 29 00:01:13,830 --> 00:01:16,693 That industry still demands that same level of perfection. 30 00:01:16,693 --> 00:01:20,350 So what, from your past, did you pull in 31 00:01:20,350 --> 00:01:22,860 to give this role some authenticity? 32 00:01:22,860 --> 00:01:23,693 - Absolutely right. 33 00:01:23,693 --> 00:01:25,690 My dancing years of competitive dance, 34 00:01:25,690 --> 00:01:28,380 being a dancer, being on stage, being in the chorus, 35 00:01:28,380 --> 00:01:30,160 you know, it's a very competitive world. 36 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:31,440 This is not a new story. 37 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,210 It's about, you know, taking a young girl 38 00:01:34,210 --> 00:01:35,650 and making her into a star. 39 00:01:35,650 --> 00:01:36,610 It happened to me. 40 00:01:36,610 --> 00:01:39,053 I was the second understudy in 42nd Street. 41 00:01:40,752 --> 00:01:44,750 The lead role, Peggy Sawyer, she hurt her knee. 42 00:01:44,750 --> 00:01:46,611 The first understudy was on vacation, 43 00:01:46,611 --> 00:01:48,950 and I was thrown on. 44 00:01:48,950 --> 00:01:51,550 And David Merrick, who was the biggest producer 45 00:01:51,550 --> 00:01:53,962 on Broadway at the time, the owner of the show, 46 00:01:53,962 --> 00:01:57,240 happened to be in London, checking out his show, 47 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:58,407 was in the audience, and cast me, 48 00:01:58,407 --> 00:02:01,263 and I played it for two years, and I became a star. 49 00:02:02,202 --> 00:02:03,035 - There you go. 50 00:02:03,035 --> 00:02:06,450 - So that story, that is the story of 42nd Street, 51 00:02:06,450 --> 00:02:09,130 of little Peggy Sawyer becoming the star, 52 00:02:09,130 --> 00:02:10,540 happened to me. 53 00:02:10,540 --> 00:02:13,600 And it's a story that Judy Garland's played, 54 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:14,600 it's a story that, 55 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,340 it never gets old, because we love, 56 00:02:17,340 --> 00:02:20,070 we inherently love those feel-good, 57 00:02:20,070 --> 00:02:23,200 feel-good factor of, "It could happen to me." 58 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:24,920 - It's still billed as a TV show, 59 00:02:24,920 --> 00:02:26,340 but it's on a social platform, 60 00:02:26,340 --> 00:02:27,270 it's on Facebook Watch. 61 00:02:27,270 --> 00:02:29,320 What was your thought process going into this project, 62 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,840 knowing that you were about to do a project 63 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,660 in an unfamiliar space, really, for you? 64 00:02:34,660 --> 00:02:36,283 - Totally unfamiliar space. 65 00:02:37,700 --> 00:02:41,090 The process of making the show, exactly the same. 66 00:02:41,090 --> 00:02:43,960 We shot this as a five hour movie, basically. 67 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,760 We didn't do episodic TV-making. 68 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,061 Like, oh, episode one's wrapped, and yeah! 69 00:02:49,061 --> 00:02:51,680 No, this is a five hour film. 70 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,120 But the pleasure of that, 71 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,426 the beauty of television, and to have that time, 72 00:02:56,426 --> 00:02:58,880 is that you can really spend the time 73 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,110 to find out those moments, 74 00:03:01,110 --> 00:03:03,840 I always call it my acting graph. 75 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,170 We wanna love to hate her and hate to love her. 76 00:03:07,170 --> 00:03:10,090 I wanted people to, by the end of it, 77 00:03:10,090 --> 00:03:11,393 be really rooting for Vicki, 78 00:03:11,393 --> 00:03:13,130 and I've seen all the 10 episodes, 79 00:03:13,130 --> 00:03:14,131 so you do. 80 00:03:14,131 --> 00:03:16,273 You want to be in her gang.