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orlando florida to watch some of the

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military's grittiest service members

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compete for sports supremacy

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looks to upgrade its field comms

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it's the latest in news and analysis

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from the pentagon to the platoon here on

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defense news weekly

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welcome back to defense news weekly i'm

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andrea scott coming at you this week

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from disney world in orlando florida

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where we're here to cover the best in

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adaptive sports at the 2022 warrior

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games

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hundreds of elite athletes from around

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the services and the world have convened

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here to compete for titles in everything

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from wheelchair rugby to power lifting

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and many more events

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hosted by the army's training and

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doctrine command for many it's a chance

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to stay healthy and competitive after a

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serious injury or illness

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and for others it's about a lot more we

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spoke to one athlete going the extra

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distance in this year's games vying for

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the title of ultimate champion

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here's her story

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i have never power powerlifted before

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when i signed up for my very first afw 2

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event they have you do a little

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checklist where you put in like all the

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events that you want to participate in

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and i had accidentally checked the

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powerlifting box and the form wouldn't

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let me uncheck it i was just finishing

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up like radiation and i just felt weak

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and it was very intimidating but then

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after i attended my first event i looked

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at like some of my teammates and like

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how strong they felt and i realized like

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it doesn't matter what body type you are

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everyone's a power lifter

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i was actually in 2018 diagnosed with a

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rare head and neck cancer i was in my

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third trimester of my third pregnancy in

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three and a half years so i've been you

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know had done it once or twice

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and uh at the very end i was getting

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headaches

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which i had never experienced before in

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any other pregnancy so i knew something

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was off and

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they realized there's a mump on the roof

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of my mouth and it was a tumor and the

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cancer was invading my nerves in my head

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um

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and then very so literally i

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had my third child our daughter came on

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may 14th and that was the same morning

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where we were in the

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hospital with my head and neck surgeon

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and he was giving us the results in the

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mri so i will never forget that day i

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had a surgery um

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a month or two later where they it's

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called a maxillectamine they remove your

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upper jaw

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and then i rolled into radiation so i

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had 30 treatments of that

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where they do head and neck

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fortunately or unfortunately my cancer

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doesn't respond to chemo

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so i didn't have to go through that

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something or you go through an injury

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you really start thinking about like um

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the i can't i won't

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be able to do this again i can't do this

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anymore

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wherever your attention goes i feel like

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that's where your energy flows right and

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that can be a dangerous spiral where you

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but afw 2 really helps us to re-vector

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our focus

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and focus on what we can achieve

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and what i came to learn is like you

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know with a lot of hard work

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determination

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and just the support system that we have

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like for me specifically like i can be

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faster than i was 10 years ago i can be

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stronger especially in power lifting

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than i ever thought i could be um i

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could learn to swim at 38 you know where

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before you know i just maybe doggy

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paddled or got through the pool and now

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i know how to glide so yeah we

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the the whole program really helps you

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to understand that you can do anything

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so this year i'll be competing in

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ultimate champion and basically we

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compete in all the individual sports so

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i do have spirit experience being an

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athlete you know on team sports

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so the endurance that those kind of

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things are okay like i find easy what

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specifically like archery

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um shooting field things that like

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technique matters and there's so many

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different parts to like a throw

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or towards you know your draw in archery

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um like i said getting out of your mind

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and overcoming those like the negative

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self-talk is the most difficult for me

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my inspiration is my children you know i

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want them to see that no matter they're

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going to hit something hard in their

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life something's going to happen no

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matter what it might not be like a

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serious illness or an injury but it's

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going to be something that knocks them

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down and i want them to

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i don't want to just tell them like you

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can get through it but i want to model

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it you know i want to show them they can

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do whatever they put their mind to so

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that's why i feel it's important that i

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try all these different sports

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and also it's fun i do it because it's

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i'm going to have the same pictures and

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my kids are still kind of young to

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understand like they'll see me go work

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in our garage and they'll see me like

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ride the spin bike in our basement and

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so really i'm just trying to model the

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behavior um for them so that as they're

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growing like you'll see them trying to

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do squats or pick up like the five pound

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dumbbells um and just to develop those

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healthy habits

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um because really i think through

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adaptive sports like it's kind of an

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outlet

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it's an outlet for stress it's somewhere

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that i can go and turn

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the world and have my quiet time

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my time to recharge

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i hope that they find it whatever it is

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maybe it's sports maybe it's not going

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to be that

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there are things out there

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this family is not just about the spores

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and it's just not about warrior games

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it's about having someone to lean on

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like hey like i'm struggling right now

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or maybe like a cancer returns or maybe

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you have a setback and you're injuring

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you need to go in for another surgery or

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maybe you're just in a dark place like

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it's knowing that hey like you're not

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when we come back the head of the army's

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future vertical lift program talks to us

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about what's coming up in next

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generation helicopters

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welcome back helicopters are an iconic

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part of the army arsenal and developing

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the next generation iteration is a big

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task

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as part of a recent webcast the head of

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army's future vertical lift program sat

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down with defense news's jen judson

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about where his program's efforts stand

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here's some of what he had to say

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welcome major general rugen and thank

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you for joining us

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thanks jim thanks a lot absolutely thank

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you for for being here i'm going to dive

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right in with a burning question we all

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have um

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where is the army in preparing to choose

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a winner for the future long-range

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assault aircraft or flora competition

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can we expect an announcement soon you

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know september has been the time frame

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thrown out by uh in recent months by

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army officials is that still the case

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oh we're uh we're in our quiet period

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and uh what i can assure everyone is uh

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the army will do this to the utmost

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that utmost standard is is being uh

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heavily worked on every day

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all right so once you pick a winner you

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know what's the plan what can we expect

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to see from the winners in terms of

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delivering aircraft along a timeline are

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you still

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hoping to see you know this fielded by

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um is the is there any potential that

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that timeline could change

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um again we're operating off of a

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four-year acceleration that we uh

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we worked on just a couple years ago and

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and the tremendous successes we saw out

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of uh the joint multi-role tech

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demonstrator and then two rounds of

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significant risk reduction where uh

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congress uh

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you know

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reinvested heavily or invested heavily

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in getting those two rounds of risk

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reduction we're finishing up that risk

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reduction now

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and again this this effort to prototype

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or you know fly before we buy has been

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very valuable

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in addition you know the aggressive red

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teaming so those

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independent tech readiness assessments

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that look at the risk that look at the

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tech um outside of of you know the fel

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team writ large between me and the peo

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aviation you know someone external that

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has been able to point at the risk and

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say hey drive that down

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to get after your goals

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um so no you know for your acceleration

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the guys are moving fast i think what

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you're going to see mid-decade is flying

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prototypes so those

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test articles will be out mid-decade

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we'll be flying those and that's really

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the next thing that uh

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obviously obviously there's been concern

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uh over the army being able to afford

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the flora and the pharah aircraft and

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you've made a case for why the army has

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to acquire both in order to achieve

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what's what is needed operationally

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against highly capable threats um are

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you getting the support you need from

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congress to accomplish this ambitious

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task

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yeah very much so uh i think again we

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we've led a very transparent program

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and you know i point back to the

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inflection point we're at you know when

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you look at the 90s

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and

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all the uh

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you know the large major defense

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programs that army aviation was doing um

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you know there really wasn't room for

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uh that comanche or we'd had to choose

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between you know upgrading a lot of

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alpha model aircraft across blackhawk

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chinook and apache

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and so now when you look at our fleets

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our fleets are very well modernized

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across

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all three uh

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models that we fly and fight and that

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really gives us the head space to uh to

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invest

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and you're seeing that um

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those fleet buyouts are happening you

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know you're seeing uh army aviation

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budgets uh shrinking in the natural

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progression because um they can they

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can't afford to and so what you see is

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is a bit of uh

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a pause right now because we can those

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that those fleets are gonna be bought

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out and then we can jump to the future

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with investments in the advanced

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rotorcraft that are going to help us

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fight and win on on future battlefields

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okay

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what has to be done to continue to

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maintain buy-in from the people that

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control the purse strings as you move

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forward

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um it's analytical rigor and it's uh

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experimentation

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and it's uh demonstration and it's

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prototyping and so

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um we are aggressive in our modeling we

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are aggressive in taking those uh

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uh data and and flying them uh out in

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the western test ranges is uh we've done

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routinely twice a year since 2019

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uh we get flight actuals uh on all the

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things that we're doing across

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um

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our weapon systems

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and sensors and all the packages that

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are going on these aircraft and then uh

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we're pouring that in again to our

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requirements documents to make sure

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we're building things that uh are lethal

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that are effective against our pacing

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and high payoff threats but also

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informing that affordability side uh

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through again flight actuals so

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um you'll you'll see our oota loop run

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aggressively uh over the next decade we

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don't plan on stopping that and then

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you'll see that transparent uh

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communication of that data back to the

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decision makers um

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you know to inform risk um

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risk to mission risk to force and and

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also cost risk

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and again we're uh we're providing that

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analytical rigor

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and then the last thing i would say and

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we've just been through you know another

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red team event but we're we're not

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afraid to hire folks outside of our

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formations

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outside the aviation enterprise to come

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in and give us a good hard look at what

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we're doing to make sure we're not just

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talking in our own echo chamber so we've

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just finished up another red team on far

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in the pharah ecosystem and uh

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and that's uh flowed into uh a

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completion of an aroc

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and so again not afraid of that trans uh

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transparency

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okay

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what what is your assessment as to how

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well future vertical lift is competing

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within the army modernization portfolio

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uh it's competing very well um and again

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it goes back to what i just spoke to is

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that analytical rigor

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and that data

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and the actuals i think the prototyping

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has been

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uh phenomenally um

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well received

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and and i go back to you know fara

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we down selected to two vendors in march

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of 2020 which also was the kickoff of

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our pandemic that we've all worked our

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way through

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but during that uh time period you know

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another two design iterations from our

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performers so a total of three design

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iterations

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and oh by the way you know those uh itep

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engines uh coming uh uh and getting

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through the first inch to test and so

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i think as as we do what we say we're

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going to do that resonates very well

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um in the pentagon

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at osd and uh in the army staff

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okay update us a little more on the far

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program you mentioned that um you

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recently went through uh

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another aroc if you could talk a little

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bit about if you can the the outcome of

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that what came of that um and where the

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companies are in building their their

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aircraft that you're hoping to see fly

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yeah so i think i'll i'll take you back

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a little farther in history you know

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april 2019 we got our first appropriated

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dollar

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for uh for pharah and so in about three

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and a half years by my math

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uh we got two prototypes there that are

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about 90 complete

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um during that time we we also made a a

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very strategic decision in the army to

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pursue a developmental engine along with

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uh developmental aircraft uh because

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again we felt that the itep technologies

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with you know those uh in excess of

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forty percent part reduction

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you know the specific fuel consumption

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or gas mileage bump of 12 to 15 percent

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and the time on wing was something that

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we wanted to follow through on

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um

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what it also did is it gives us you know

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one engine for our pharah blackhawk and

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apache and so

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uh

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plenty of obstacles uh within the

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pandemic and supply chain to get through

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that

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but happy to report out again the uh the

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prototypes are about 90 percent built um

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itep finished up its first engine to

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test here in june

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uh even uh had uh some run time in

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excess of what was programmed uh they're

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tearing down that engine now

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analyzing uh what's going on with the

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engine and then ge will deliver two

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engines uh to the performers this

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november

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um

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which again allows us to fly next uh

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next year

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as i look at it again the prototypes are

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about 90 complete and the engine is out

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and uh with the pandemic

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you know very proud of the team and all

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the adversity that they've fought

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through

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um

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with those three designs it was a

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natural time to look at our attributes

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so we haven't set requirements yet for

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pharah

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we're in the attribute space

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because we are prototyping and the

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prototyping will inform our requirements

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our final requirements and again that

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gets into uh what will be effective in

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our pacing theaters against our pacing

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threats but also what will be affordable

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for our budget and we will uh keep

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budget in mind so

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again very proud of the program and very

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proud of the efforts

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and we're in a good space

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up next our personal finance expert

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gives her latest tips on how to make the

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most of your money

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welcome back on this edition of money

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thanks jeanette we'll see you next time

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back the army looks for a mobile

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communications update in this week's

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edition of miltek

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[Music]

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welcome back communicating on the move

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and in the field is key to fundamental

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army tactics but is there a better way

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to do it to get more mobile the force is

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testing out some new capabilities

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todd south has more in this week's mill

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tech

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[Music]

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comscomscoms communications the

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functional glue that holds all modern

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military operations together also the

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bane of the existence of nearly every

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radio operator data officer or whatever

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they're calling military communication

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professionals these days

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many a soldier sailor airman or marine

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has spent countless hours fine tuning

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old radios throwing copper wire up in

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the trees to get the signal and

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readjusting the antenna for the one

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thousandth time hit the exact right

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azimuth

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satellite communications are only

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slightly less headache inducing you pop

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out your antenna hook up your cables get

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the right aim point to your satellite

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and boom you're in business talking loud

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talking clear

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well most of the time

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other than satellite phones which can't

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do all the communications that troops

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need satcom is still a little

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complicated they're big dish antennas

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sometimes specialized cable cuts and

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connectors all that means heavy gear

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often carried in a vehicle

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and while copper wire blends well with

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tree branches a dish atop a building

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might stick out painting a target where

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you've planted a communication note

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meaning you're the target

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realizing it might need to improve its

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mobile communication suite in the near

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future the army recently held an

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evaluation of communications on the move

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or otm and more specifically at the

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quick halt satellite communications

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meaning move stop communicate no big

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setups to get a baseline for where they

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really need to go in early june soldiers

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with the second armored brigade combat

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team or the spartans out of third after

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division did a communications pilot at

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fort stewart georgia

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they looked at beyond the line of sight

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communication that basically means over

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the horizon and long distance without

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the extra added service charges and fees

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for those of you born before say 2000

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long distance charges they were a thing

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you had to pay extra if you want to call

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somebody outside forget it

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they also work with mesh network devices

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a mesh network com is basically creating

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a running network over the air that

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continually updates for the best signal

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and best frequency path and also can

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transfer data packets and other

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information through kind of like

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internal re-transmission from each of

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the radios that are connected to the

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network

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that method helps avoid jamming and

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allow soldiers to run radios in tricky

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places like tunnel systems or dense

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urban areas the spartans it's just fun

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to say out loud

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also work with flat panel satellite

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terminal links and that's a way users

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can avoid setting up massive dishes and

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associated gear the tech also allows for

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a petite by military standard satcom

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equipment not part of that demo with the

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spartans but another interesting satcom

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development that military times recently

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spotted is coming from a company called

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tamper microwave

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that company works with a larger talus

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company and they're both now working

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with special operations command or socom

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testing out suitcase size satellite

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communication systems that fold up and

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pop out and open about as easy as a

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laptop

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that means more discreet satcom setup

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and crowded and always watching urban

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terrain

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the gear called razer scout also

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features fewer components and a quicker

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setup

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the new device shrinks the footprint

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down from three

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much larger pieces than big dishes into

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an all-in-one item

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the company put this equipment together

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on its own appealing to the trimmed down

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nature of special operations and socom

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missions and tamper microwave is no

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garage tinkering operation they already

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provide program of record satellite gear

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that they're trying to replace for socom

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company officials told me that they

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began working with socom testers who are

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evaluating prototypes of the raider

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scout as a possible added satcom option

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for special operators while the device

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is currently geared for small a small

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footprint on special operations missions

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it provides enough power and capability

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to be used by other military units who

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need to shrink their gear but also still

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want to talk across the globe

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and don't worry for all things shrinking

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tech and more we'll keep an eye out

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for military times this is todd powell

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week please visit us on

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