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- We're obviously both
in the tech industry,

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and I think we both know

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so many

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people who are the leaders
of these companies,

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that are truly, truly good people,

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but in the press and in the media,

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there has been such a
strong anti-tech sentiment

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that has developed over
the past few years.

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And, you know,

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I understand it to some level,

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but it also puzzles me.

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If you think about any major industry,

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that's come up in our society,

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whether it's finance,

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oil and energy,

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food and agriculture,

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consumer goods, you know,

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every industry you name

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has had both positive
and negative impacts.

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And that's natural,

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when a big industry comes up
and disrupts all of our lives.

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It's also natural and important,

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I think,

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for us to have an open conversation

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about the negative externalities

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and figure out what to
do about it as a society.

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But why do you think

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there has been such a disproportionately,

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strong negative reaction to tech

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and this anti-tech sentiment developing?

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And do you think it's warranted?

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- Well, the, I agree with you,

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the anti-tech sentiment has been brewing,

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I would say,

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pretty strong for about three years now.

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And I think the heart of it,

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whether we like it or not,

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it comes down to one word,

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is the core

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cause of this,

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and we have not gotten
our arms around it yet.

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And the,

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the M word is "misinformation."

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The tech companies at large,

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have been dealing with the
issue of 'misinformation'

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for about three years now

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and I don't believe we
have our arms around it.

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I think all the CEOs agree,

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we don't have our arms around it,

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but we have not figured
out a solution yet.

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We're, right now,

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I think, unfortunately,

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at the height of the finger pointing stage

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of recognizing this problem,

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of the people in Washington, DC saying,

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"You are awful.

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Please figure out 'misinformation.'"

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And then the tech
companies saying, you know,

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"We're tryin' to figure
out 'misinformation.'"

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And Washington, DC saying,

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"You're not figuring it out fast enough."

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And I think in the end,

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what is going to have to happen,

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is Washington, DC and the tech industry

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are gonna have to come together.

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They're gonna have to leave
the finger-pointing stage.

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They're gonna have to come together

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in a really constructive way

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and have the 'misinformation' version

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of the Paris Peace Talks,

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where everyone comes to the meeting

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with all of their,

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their biases put to the side

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and say, "We are going,

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we're gonna just sit down and
we're gonna solve this now."

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It's going to take the government

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and the tech industry cooperating.

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