WEBVTT 00:00:08.600 --> 00:00:12.400 Hello and welcome to this installment of CSR executive 00:00:12.400 --> 00:00:14.700 sessions, Estrella, I'm at Kennedy. 00:00:14.700 --> 00:00:17.900 The editors he is always dry out and I'm very pleased to be joining 00:00:17.900 --> 00:00:22.300 tonight by Scott soy executive director of ICT services, 00:00:22.300 --> 00:00:25.400 for the University of Southern Queensland, Scott, 00:00:25.400 --> 00:00:34.200 welcome, it was a busy space. 00:00:34.200 --> 00:00:38.000 I saw, I think you'll be characterized it on on two different 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:41.900 dimension. One with a serving of continuously working to Signature, 00:00:41.900 --> 00:00:46.400 at Baseline, Baseline to control, to take the controls, 00:00:46.400 --> 00:00:47.900 make sure we got a good solid. 00:00:47.900 --> 00:00:50.800 An instant response not prime, I can price it in place, 00:00:50.800 --> 00:00:53.600 and that's just like a fairy of the critical maturity of working 00:00:53.600 --> 00:00:56.500 on unlocked. Cam Newton the kids off with the other side, 00:00:56.500 --> 00:01:01.600 has beset me moving from, I saw the resilience and resilience, 00:01:01.600 --> 00:01:05.800 so we can't continue to be under attack as much. 00:01:05.800 --> 00:01:07.200 People are aware that I realize that, 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:07.600 I know it. 00:01:08.500 --> 00:01:11.300 Continuous stream of the incoming think we can. 00:01:11.300 --> 00:01:12.400 Devise find helps us. 00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:13.400 Can I should take some of the, 00:01:13.400 --> 00:01:16.100 but the noise asked that it's really important. 00:01:16.100 --> 00:01:18.600 So lucky I'm going to be watching for liking what the signal 00:01:18.600 --> 00:01:22.500 in the noises as well, which of the new resilience is really 00:01:22.500 --> 00:01:24.400 bad. Anticipating attacked anticipating. 00:01:24.400 --> 00:01:28.300 You attacked continually building a controls to make sure that 00:01:28.300 --> 00:01:29.600 they are picking up the things that matter, 00:01:29.600 --> 00:01:32.100 not just improving like a nobody mature. 00:01:32.100 --> 00:01:34.800 Looking for all that is effective, I'm really trying to find 00:01:34.800 --> 00:01:37.100 that balance of actually looking trying to predict to be in. 00:01:37.100 --> 00:01:37.900 What is the next thing? 00:01:37.900 --> 00:01:41.000 Is actually going to like an impact us including packed up and 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:43.200 putting in place controlled and in front of that. 00:01:43.200 --> 00:01:45.600 So, instead of trying to be ahead of the game, 00:01:45.600 --> 00:01:48.600 and even if we lucky at 30 seconds ahead of the effect of the 00:01:48.600 --> 00:01:49.900 side that they're really good place to be, 00:01:49.900 --> 00:01:54.100 we probably need to, but I think if we basically making sure 00:01:54.100 --> 00:01:57.100 we have a hug, goodbye Saint plus that little bit of a predictive 00:01:57.100 --> 00:02:01.500 anticipatory. I saw Brazilian CC the same as well, 00:02:01.500 --> 00:02:03.700 said he said, he's telling us three dimensions. 00:02:04.100 --> 00:02:10.000 2023. Of course, Tarzan, immensely event for 1 in cyber security 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:15.300 in 2022. How would you reflect on the year prior in the field? 00:02:15.300 --> 00:02:17.900 Yes, it's my fight. 00:02:17.900 --> 00:02:19.100 It was sort of a heck of a ride. 00:02:19.100 --> 00:02:21.200 I'll, I think we still have a little bit of everything. 00:02:21.200 --> 00:02:27.000 I've it really lifts the awareness in the broader public and 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:29.000 I know that it's senior executive and board level. 00:02:29.000 --> 00:02:31.400 I bet saw the security, there was a way, 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:33.200 I don't know what is one of the concentrix again, 00:02:33.200 --> 00:02:36.100 messed up the Escalade, and a plaid that we saw the end that 00:02:36.100 --> 00:02:37.400 she had political tensions. 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:42.900 Served us, well, and caused a bit of a roller coaster ride in 00:02:42.900 --> 00:02:46.200 some of the top two attacks, we were actually saying it. 00:02:46.200 --> 00:02:49.400 So obviously, I can't get the Deep data breaches to take ransomware 00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:54.300 attacks, which was very mainstream reported, very widely impacted 00:02:54.300 --> 00:02:56.400 the millions of people, all of a sudden, 00:02:56.400 --> 00:02:59.100 start security, becoming something people were aware of at. 00:02:59.100 --> 00:03:01.100 Because something out a day that you were affected, 00:03:01.100 --> 00:03:03.500 or someone you knew was quite affected. 00:03:04.100 --> 00:03:07.000 They said, if I can't change so I can do you think the section 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:11.000 that the detective that it's interesting, how they also, 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:13.700 the government has a lithium black in the background for a number 00:03:13.700 --> 00:03:16.500 of years that that really a top hand that set up. 00:03:16.500 --> 00:03:20.400 Yeah, I think it's accelerating and cooler set the the environment 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:21.600 for like, in the next couple of years. 00:03:21.600 --> 00:03:24.800 But a little bit to see if the real acceleration of like a probably 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:30.200 regulation suddenly interest from the market and from boards 00:03:30.200 --> 00:03:33.900 and sending an increased awareness from individuals, 00:03:33.900 --> 00:03:37.000 have what they need to I should be doing and hopefully 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:40.900 it is more than just thinking, something like that. 00:03:40.900 --> 00:03:43.100 I can actually be doing to protect themselves. 00:03:45.400 --> 00:03:49.000 How do you say 2023 shaping up in Simon security? 00:03:50.300 --> 00:03:51.500 But it is interesting. 00:03:51.500 --> 00:03:55.700 I think I'm wave staying a shift but as things 00:03:56.600 --> 00:04:01.000 Get more mature and the start of substrate control side. 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:04.500 We say the attack is moving into the team and I will always 00:04:04.500 --> 00:04:07.500 like, you know, move to places where this except chances 00:04:07.500 --> 00:04:11.400 are greater than they are rational actors in the new to areas where 00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:12.800 there were two investment is good. 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:14.200 I'm we said anything. 00:04:14.200 --> 00:04:18.300 I drive from the ex against said about our identity and identity 00:04:18.300 --> 00:04:25.000 service has the ID first about the perimeter and a zero dice 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:34.100 at currently staying at a more sophisticated to cat controls 00:04:34.100 --> 00:04:37.700 and ran like a medication and authorization. 00:04:37.700 --> 00:04:42.100 Not 15% where she seeing a significant increase in MMA podcast 00:04:42.100 --> 00:04:45.500 attack, and attack us before. 00:04:45.500 --> 00:04:46.400 10 to Black pastel. 00:04:46.400 --> 00:04:48.600 Please play. The mfi is not just like, 00:04:48.600 --> 00:04:50.100 I'm good to go. 00:04:50.100 --> 00:04:54.100 Now you need to continuously be upgrading your MSI posture 00:04:54.100 --> 00:04:54.500 as well. 00:04:56.600 --> 00:04:59.100 Getting more and more and more, and one of the flippy, 00:04:59.100 --> 00:05:00.500 I'm the song things. 00:05:00.500 --> 00:05:06.700 I think she needs to evolve more if it quite a ficus on decision-making 00:05:06.700 --> 00:05:08.500 and fought security and thoughts. 00:05:08.500 --> 00:05:12.800 Control roller. I said is so much we can actually do the same, 00:05:12.800 --> 00:05:16.400 any solutions on the market and assignment of a chimney. 00:05:16.400 --> 00:05:19.900 Floon, you control the new, a text but I can't choose and where 00:05:19.900 --> 00:05:21.100 we deploy gas. 00:05:21.100 --> 00:05:24.800 Resources will become increasingly a critical now into the future 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:28.300 cuz we don't have unlimited funds has seemed to have unlimited 00:05:28.300 --> 00:05:31.800 Sunset. It's always been his conversation that the Patriots 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:35.000 are limited time. 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:37.600 Limited funds out, what we have said, 00:05:37.600 --> 00:05:40.900 a decision making me sir. 00:05:40.900 --> 00:05:45.200 One of the things we can certainly help balance that are interesting 00:05:45.200 --> 00:05:46.700 how he said, go fund that down to mention. 00:05:46.700 --> 00:05:47.900 I'm going to go back to the bounce, 00:05:47.900 --> 00:05:51.600 the tween High slide and also I anticipatory controls, 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:55.000 nexeri Wi-Fi, and getting that decision-making will be really 00:05:55.000 --> 00:05:56.200 important going forward into the future. 00:05:56.600 --> 00:06:01.100 Mystery help me control, that probably don't matter that are 00:06:01.100 --> 00:06:04.800 already lucky of being well, controlled and leave for the locking the 00:06:04.800 --> 00:06:07.100 back door open because lucky we haven't said the effect 00:06:07.100 --> 00:06:09.100 of fun things, where we might have little control. 00:06:11.300 --> 00:06:14.500 Obviously, with the outbreak of the pandemic of fundamental, 00:06:14.500 --> 00:06:18.600 redefining of the Mart of operation among Australian universities 00:06:18.600 --> 00:06:22.500 as it could now for a couple years beyond the pandemics 00:06:22.500 --> 00:06:26.300 outbreak institutions of add time to formulate a plan in response 00:06:26.300 --> 00:06:28.500 to it, as well as he I'm inside. 00:06:28.500 --> 00:06:31.400 Vaccines coming to play with your further assistance. 00:06:31.400 --> 00:06:33.400 Now, to get to The New Normal. 00:06:33.400 --> 00:06:37.200 When looking at the University, sector is a whole now compared 00:06:37.200 --> 00:06:38.600 to the other days of the pandemic. 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:41.900 What's pleased? You noticed about the response to the challenge 00:06:41.900 --> 00:06:43.300 in terms of cyber security. 00:06:45.500 --> 00:06:46.900 I thought the security. 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:50.500 Happened in parallel, the pandemic. 00:06:50.500 --> 00:06:53.600 So I think one of the things that actually still at the pandemic 00:06:53.600 --> 00:06:55.900 is many, many, sitting chips it online very, 00:06:55.900 --> 00:06:58.600 very quickly. And we sort of had to say you, 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:00.600 like, in a digital transformation, if it happened. 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:05.300 And I had to happen yet alongside a commensurate for the trash out 00:07:05.300 --> 00:07:06.600 of cybersecurity to try. 00:07:06.600 --> 00:07:08.600 My can't protect those, you and you initiatives, 00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:12.200 and we also like an amplification to look at tax. 00:07:12.200 --> 00:07:14.900 I wish I could, but are getting some of those new waypoints. 00:07:14.900 --> 00:07:16.600 I'm very early in the pandemic. 00:07:16.600 --> 00:07:20.300 Welcome home Technologies example. 00:07:20.300 --> 00:07:27.900 Can I sign systems heating system before because there was no 00:07:27.900 --> 00:07:31.000 opportunity there for the second thought. I 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:34.800 think that was a kid has to be well-prepared. 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:36.200 We had other technology already. 00:07:36.200 --> 00:07:38.700 We just basically had to have to shut of shift. 00:07:39.100 --> 00:07:42.100 One of the things going to have to really mature within the sector 00:07:42.100 --> 00:07:46.200 and more broadly in Australia and it's on the 70s Christ could 00:07:46.200 --> 00:07:47.400 be sharing threat intelligence. 00:07:47.400 --> 00:07:49.700 That's absolutely cage. 00:07:49.700 --> 00:07:53.000 Instead of making sure we can actually work together to provide 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:57.500 instead of a coordinated response but also like an amplified 00:07:57.500 --> 00:08:01.300 all of that individuals capabilities on such intelligence 00:08:01.300 --> 00:08:04.500 really it's looking pretty pretty sure they're going to take 00:08:04.500 --> 00:08:05.600 everybody else in the sector. 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:05.800 Yeah. 00:08:06.900 --> 00:08:10.000 Pretty much immediately or, or the nice and polarity, 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:11.900 haven't, we haven't told it much better, 00:08:11.900 --> 00:08:14.300 but can sharing a threat intelligence luck. 00:08:14.300 --> 00:08:15.900 Was it someone to text text my night off. 00:08:15.900 --> 00:08:17.200 I want to know about it so I can, 00:08:17.200 --> 00:08:19.200 basically, yes, something before I threw it at me, 00:08:19.200 --> 00:08:21.400 and it is a variety of initiatives, 00:08:21.400 --> 00:08:23.800 it because she went through that through some of the sector 00:08:23.800 --> 00:08:29.700 identities. And also, it has a fantastic job for a long time. 00:08:29.700 --> 00:08:33.200 But now it's a little pot that is trying hard to catch inside. 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:35.600 Security service has said that something ain't right with a candy 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:38.200 after intelligence-sharing. I mean, that's kind of integrates 00:08:38.200 --> 00:08:41.100 into the federal government initiatives as well, 00:08:41.100 --> 00:08:43.900 and I can go there because she do not affect the threat intelligence 00:08:43.900 --> 00:08:45.700 Sharon Kalina. That's what he came. 00:08:45.700 --> 00:08:49.500 While there's a specific context and two attacks and I can get a 00:08:49.500 --> 00:08:57.700 chance, we can get from a commercial services and government 00:08:57.700 --> 00:09:03.300 services from mechanics and feel that ain't to set up with Automation. 00:09:03.300 --> 00:09:06.900 And security automation, specifically say Minnesota College 00:09:06.900 --> 00:09:10.000 Really means we can actually look at a deficit of every product 00:09:10.000 --> 00:09:14.400 to post job against a text that he actually saying already. 00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:20.100 Equally what work do you think remains to be done? 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:27.000 Everything. Is it one of the challenges about Sawtooth security? 00:09:27.000 --> 00:09:29.000 That is always try to check tomato. 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:31.000 It's every attack that has ever been successful. 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:35.600 It is still valid today because somewhere there's probably 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:38.100 something sitting on your network or summer sitting in income 00:09:38.100 --> 00:09:40.600 of top of the time which is unpatched are still vulnerable. 00:09:40.600 --> 00:09:42.500 Look at I can pull it out and plug it in. 00:09:42.500 --> 00:09:47.100 So I need to be so very much like she saw the oldest of 00:09:47.100 --> 00:09:48.700 the problems and really, really cannot lie. 00:09:48.700 --> 00:09:51.500 That whole side is a constant stream of new things coming 00:09:51.500 --> 00:09:52.300 in the clutch line. 00:09:52.300 --> 00:09:54.400 So we looking at it pushing and aggressive be to digital 00:09:54.400 --> 00:09:57.800 transformation. As everybody is, which means we knew you can 00:09:57.800 --> 00:10:00.600 you take allergy is need price as they don't need people involved 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:05.300 and that they are all a part of complexity opportunity 00:10:05.300 --> 00:10:08.500 to have a look inside that. 00:10:08.500 --> 00:10:13.600 It could have been continuously changing landscape and I think 00:10:13.600 --> 00:10:16.200 if you looking at the thermostatic control framework, 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:20.400 which yeah, it is very, very valuable historical things. 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:22.300 Probably going to leave you behind. 00:10:22.300 --> 00:10:24.900 I think you need to be very surprised. 00:10:24.900 --> 00:10:28.500 Active looking forward to a lock in at the risk of coming 00:10:28.500 --> 00:10:32.200 from asirvia, keeping a measured approach to make sure that 00:10:32.200 --> 00:10:34.000 you said, we can covering our good-byes, 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:39.400 want everything to myself, say that. 00:10:39.400 --> 00:10:42.300 That is probably one of the other greatest Young Rich Gonzalez. 00:10:42.300 --> 00:10:45.100 As well as we wish her to be hearing a lot of Bella. 00:10:45.100 --> 00:10:52.100 Can I like a quantity and a DDS colliding in business interest 00:10:52.100 --> 00:10:55.200 and concern that we need to set up my can't balance that like 00:10:55.200 --> 00:10:56.300 to listen to everything all at once? 00:10:56.300 --> 00:10:59.600 So that's like I did the sensible things at the right time. 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:02.200 Cuz if every source is cuz you just could not a short-term 00:11:02.200 --> 00:11:04.500 guy and we're not going to solve it in like at 6 months, 00:11:04.500 --> 00:11:07.400 they need to make sure the luck movie have a very sustainable 00:11:07.400 --> 00:11:10.100 and saw the security effort and whatever organization 00:11:10.100 --> 00:11:11.400 type of protective. 00:11:13.300 --> 00:11:17.500 The implications of generating I for some aspects of the education 00:11:17.500 --> 00:11:20.400 sector very needed, an apparent right away. 00:11:20.400 --> 00:11:24.000 For instance, many teachers of the rest of the title approach 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:29.700 to use in shot, put in a conversation continues to grow as a technology 00:11:29.700 --> 00:11:30.500 continues to advance. 00:11:31.800 --> 00:11:34.300 When looking beyond the classroom to The Wider, 00:11:34.300 --> 00:11:38.100 operation, of the University cyber security, what would you say 00:11:38.100 --> 00:11:39.400 some of the underappreciated? 00:11:39.400 --> 00:11:46.700 But important aspects of Sacramento genetec Hayden singer-songwriter. 00:11:46.700 --> 00:11:47.800 Technology has come on. 00:11:47.800 --> 00:11:49.600 It's really, really fast on. 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:53.200 We said, they have been using machine learning int playing, 00:11:53.200 --> 00:11:57.100 so I can't quite a few years are in various aspects of a crosswalk. 00:11:57.100 --> 00:12:00.400 And I said about at the room into the fence across that about 00:12:00.400 --> 00:12:04.700 identity, Texas to Stephanie and correlation of a lucky detection 00:12:04.700 --> 00:12:06.300 mechanism than that same systems. 00:12:06.300 --> 00:12:08.600 I think I always will. 00:12:08.600 --> 00:12:12.100 It really should be willing to split in the sector ddl fiction, 00:12:12.100 --> 00:12:16.000 reason, risks with that, the Genesis Beast can put in Transformer, 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:17.500 algorithms in front of all this year. 00:12:17.500 --> 00:12:22.900 It is very new and he kept up on us as a certain look 00:12:22.900 --> 00:12:23.700 and listen to her. 00:12:23.700 --> 00:12:26.000 People surprised it hasn't really evolved past. 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:27.700 I'm like I'll be going to use check t.v. 00:12:27.700 --> 00:12:31.100 Teeter what monkey more fishing a mi and Italy and make them 00:12:31.100 --> 00:12:32.400 all contacts. Savannah way. 00:12:32.400 --> 00:12:36.300 I think that's probably true but I think we get to say the really 00:12:36.300 --> 00:12:39.700 interesting things where I can order Technologies Who coming to 00:12:39.700 --> 00:12:43.900 fly, but I think it is a real for sure. 00:12:43.900 --> 00:12:47.800 And that I asked for an interesting conversation the other 00:12:47.800 --> 00:12:50.300 day, I will, I can I ask you to reset. 00:12:50.300 --> 00:12:52.300 She was basically acting like a cheapie. 00:12:52.300 --> 00:13:00.400 Take a walk, would you take this organization and the coast? 00:13:00.400 --> 00:13:09.700 And then if he could cats, eat Titi Sonia, 00:13:09.700 --> 00:13:10.400 walk them through. 00:13:10.400 --> 00:13:14.600 This is how I would feel if I was a security research. 00:13:14.600 --> 00:13:22.600 And see what if you do, just walk through the monitor tech framework 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:23.900 and I can't from starts, if anything, 00:13:23.900 --> 00:13:25.700 you could do this and this and this and that. 00:13:25.700 --> 00:13:26.400 So I can't build 00:13:31.800 --> 00:13:35.700 Giving a sponsor to LG is it can generate a new Inside by some 00:13:35.700 --> 00:13:37.200 political, the different perspective. 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:43.700 I think that specific offense and potentially an opportunity 00:13:43.700 --> 00:13:48.900 for dinner. Technology will take a while, 00:13:48.900 --> 00:13:56.500 but I think I'm really looking forward to Bringing chunks 00:13:56.500 --> 00:13:57.800 of Texas in your mouth. 00:13:58.300 --> 00:14:04.500 Futurology is of course always an imprecise science after always. 00:14:04.500 --> 00:14:07.300 We believe some of the predictions from bygone decades. 00:14:07.300 --> 00:14:09.800 We should perhaps be talking today in 2023, 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:12.400 where I find God and teleporting machines out. 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:17.300 God. It's also the case that some thought over dictions 00:14:17.300 --> 00:14:20.900 based on existing daughter, now can shine a light on what we would 00:14:20.900 --> 00:14:22.500 expect to see happening years ahead. 00:14:22.500 --> 00:14:27.400 Sorry, let's skip ahead of it to 2030 Canyon. 00:14:27.400 --> 00:14:30.500 Pine us a picture of what you feel could be cybersecurity 00:14:30.500 --> 00:14:31.600 pain points than 00:14:32.800 --> 00:14:35.200 So I try not to be an alarmist, 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:38.600 but you could send me find some yesterday and Nightmare. 00:14:38.600 --> 00:14:42.300 So I'll just curity scenario if you checked in for it from where 00:14:42.300 --> 00:14:44.200 we are now, it seems like, you know, 00:14:44.200 --> 00:14:49.300 the rise of alternation automation, which means what can I send 00:14:49.300 --> 00:14:51.900 me a doing things here, faster than humans can actually 00:14:51.900 --> 00:14:53.900 react to buy? 00:14:53.900 --> 00:14:58.700 Sony TV on the defensive side, but then you stop combining 00:14:58.700 --> 00:15:00.100 that with related technology. 00:15:00.100 --> 00:15:01.200 Lucky is a janitor. 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:09.100 They are all of a sudden, lock in a sequence of steps that all of 00:15:09.100 --> 00:15:10.500 a sudden, like the machines at by City. 00:15:10.500 --> 00:15:13.700 Getting you, the next steps at machine stayed in response 00:15:13.700 --> 00:15:17.100 to buy see what it's saying in the environment that that's 00:15:17.100 --> 00:15:21.000 a little, a really complex in Iowa and did the state of Texas. 00:15:21.000 --> 00:15:22.700 I thought you start to wonder, well, 00:15:22.700 --> 00:15:24.600 all the sudden like a human throw, 00:15:24.600 --> 00:15:26.700 my thing taken out of the loop just because we, 00:15:26.700 --> 00:15:29.800 we Arabic play the, we would sort of stepped back into set of 00:15:29.800 --> 00:15:31.900 like, instead of being a controlling aspect, 00:15:32.800 --> 00:15:34.700 And we thought, I'd just say some elements of that. 00:15:34.700 --> 00:15:38.100 So, at Once Upon a Time, like I installed the security attacks 00:15:38.100 --> 00:15:39.500 with her again, people doing stuff. 00:15:39.500 --> 00:15:42.500 And then you feel about the rise of like an tool kits and I 00:15:42.500 --> 00:15:48.300 can machine driven attacks and then may that that phone for the 00:15:48.300 --> 00:15:51.300 Baseline banana must have just got a text to have a human at the 00:15:51.300 --> 00:15:53.900 end because I need to make decisions all the time continuously 00:15:53.900 --> 00:15:56.900 about things when I suspicions all the sudden can be like for 00:15:56.900 --> 00:16:00.600 tonight today and replaced with like a generative Iowa and then. 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:02.300 A human stay after that machines. 00:16:02.300 --> 00:16:05.200 They do humans they'd become so lucky. 00:16:05.200 --> 00:16:10.200 What I think as we should try that again, 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:12.500 that relies enough to fill out thinking, 00:16:12.500 --> 00:16:14.400 assuming that you must upon a time. 00:16:14.400 --> 00:16:17.300 We had luck in a few weeks to be able to respond Flex it 00:16:17.300 --> 00:16:22.000 about an initial exploded near the Finish Line sports venues 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:26.000 within a couple of hours off and within minutes by humans, 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:28.900 which apps are being able to look at machine and eyeballs. 00:16:32.800 --> 00:16:36.300 Yeah, I really thought the challenge at at Notions of how we actually 00:16:36.300 --> 00:16:39.900 respond and how we do response to the incident response 00:16:39.900 --> 00:16:44.200 is still in the Emanuel human-driven price it that we are responding 00:16:44.200 --> 00:16:48.400 with him at the lucky machines coming at us and that. 00:16:48.400 --> 00:16:50.500 That's not sustainable and efficient. 00:16:50.500 --> 00:16:52.800 So we need to split find that balance on both side. 00:16:52.800 --> 00:16:58.000 Do I think of at the moment I suspect the Chevy II engines 00:16:58.000 --> 00:16:59.600 at again more on the fender side, 00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:09.100 we have a new investment there but they have that attitude. 00:17:09.100 --> 00:17:10.500 I need to find you a c h. 00:17:10.500 --> 00:17:10.900 I r r. 00:17:10.900 --> 00:17:14.800 Y dial increase to become more organized it and Marshall 00:17:14.800 --> 00:17:18.000 Mo machine oriented in their tax, which means we need to be in 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:29.200 this continues. I do call and it was sort of a presentation 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:30.800 to the graduating class of 00:17:32.800 --> 00:17:33.800 Milwaukee, right about 10. 00:17:33.800 --> 00:17:36.200 It'll be like, you know machines, they machines. 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:39.000 And like I said, I did the 10 minutes an hour after I get 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:41.400 there because we are human instinct to be, 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:47.100 like to have a little bit of control and the level of impact 00:17:47.100 --> 00:17:50.700 that human can actually have progressively like any change 00:17:50.700 --> 00:17:53.000 in to set up a different environment. 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:57.000 So if you don't set up your working on that now it will, 00:17:57.000 --> 00:17:58.100 it will surprise you one day 00:17:58.600 --> 00:18:02.200 Just as your detail, the potential pain points. 00:18:02.200 --> 00:18:03.800 What should we be doing now? 00:18:03.800 --> 00:18:04.900 I don't care. 00:18:04.900 --> 00:18:06.200 What do we aspirational? 00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:10.100 She'll be developed and Siri ready for years so that we can meet 00:18:10.100 --> 00:18:11.900 him. Respond to these nine points. 00:18:11.900 --> 00:18:18.200 I'm very different perspective on how security sector would 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:21.500 buy some lock, everything table chart to fucking defending 00:18:21.500 --> 00:18:24.700 organisations and daughter dresses, like a nice security 00:18:24.700 --> 00:18:26.500 vendors, trying to steal us some things. 00:18:26.500 --> 00:18:27.600 And also you have a government. 00:18:27.600 --> 00:18:30.800 Have a different perspective as well as some of the problems. Some 00:18:30.800 --> 00:18:32.000 of the fundamental issues. 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:35.900 I really can only be dealt with nearby government because 00:18:35.900 --> 00:18:38.000 you and I are sort of the ones before I can't be billeted 00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:39.600 to serve you a deal. 00:18:39.600 --> 00:18:43.300 International Electra legal Frameworks and I did I say things 00:18:43.300 --> 00:18:46.700 every individual organizations near and Haven security vendors, 00:18:46.700 --> 00:18:51.000 and ultimately it's got changing year that the motive and the 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:56.100 opportunity. I end the main, I'll look at a COS and that that 00:18:56.100 --> 00:18:57.300 changes the dynamic. 00:18:57.300 --> 00:18:59.900 So that's probably the thing that I Fleetwood nice, 00:18:59.900 --> 00:19:02.700 can't change the environment, the landscape and there's a lot of 00:19:02.700 --> 00:19:04.600 what's happening in that space. 00:19:04.600 --> 00:19:07.600 All of a sudden, like a nice if I ran to McCray's never got 00:19:07.600 --> 00:19:12.000 tired and step only mean that I would like to look at my interest 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:22.000 in investing their precious time yet because we basically 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:25.300 just kind of access to anybody or countries that we'll have 00:19:25.300 --> 00:19:28.400 to use as like a major pivot Points for attack and that I don't 00:19:28.400 --> 00:19:29.800 listen to change their opportunity. 00:19:29.800 --> 00:19:35.400 And if we got too much to really look at Crackdown on with where 00:19:35.400 --> 00:19:38.100 they come from and there that Starbucks uses them maintain 00:19:38.100 --> 00:19:40.800 their durability said about can't build sustainable a criminal 00:19:40.800 --> 00:19:48.200 organization that requires the government policy and that I think, 00:19:48.200 --> 00:19:50.100 is he a quite challenging than our current geopolitical 00:19:50.100 --> 00:19:53.800 environment? And you've seen that the idol of the year? 00:19:53.800 --> 00:19:56.600 Does Alexis Ann white guy that the geopolitical blonde with 00:19:56.600 --> 00:19:57.200 a very friendly. 00:19:57.200 --> 00:19:58.400 Again, if he said some of us, 00:19:58.600 --> 00:20:04.700 Play music by on the way to get very friendly. 00:20:04.700 --> 00:20:09.200 Laura. Salute in Pakistan, wah cantt work with lockout countries 00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:17.900 where they're coming from different countries or States. 00:20:17.900 --> 00:20:21.700 That's pretty as a, generalization is pretty accurate. 00:20:21.700 --> 00:20:25.000 Let me see, like, a high proportion of text come from certain 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:27.800 places and we know they are at risk and we can set a factor 00:20:27.800 --> 00:20:32.000 it into a defensive, but we have very little ability to change 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:39.400 that conversation. So I think that's something that I really 00:20:39.400 --> 00:20:43.600 wouldn't. Encourage, everybody said of me, I think about an Empire, 00:20:43.600 --> 00:20:46.200 all whatever I can to get that through your changes, 00:20:46.200 --> 00:20:48.900 the dynamic and that mean, you're fundamentally change. 00:20:48.900 --> 00:20:50.200 If I can't, one of the empty, 00:20:50.200 --> 00:20:52.600 should we have the fact that I can't leave the boy going to text 00:20:52.600 --> 00:20:55.400 his ground against their resources and Cactus, 00:20:55.400 --> 00:20:56.900 or the growing up. 00:20:56.900 --> 00:20:58.200 We need to change that to 7. 00:20:58.600 --> 00:21:00.200 Health, give ourselves a chance in the future. 00:21:03.600 --> 00:21:07.000 What insights would you like to share specifically with cyber 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:10.300 Security Professionals came to learn more from another professional 00:21:10.300 --> 00:21:11.400 in that field? 00:21:11.700 --> 00:21:17.000 The Sabah Security on bright self is almost to come and get it, 00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:18.500 done discipline to set me. 00:21:18.500 --> 00:21:20.200 It was you born out of information security, 00:21:20.200 --> 00:21:22.100 which was probably born out of network. 00:21:22.100 --> 00:21:25.800 Security on steak sauce, have been all depressed in the field 00:21:25.800 --> 00:21:30.900 has been a revelation that it is now such a broad and complex 00:21:30.900 --> 00:21:35.000 field where you need to understand a little bit of your many, 00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:37.400 are they feel the pain there, this the 9th, 00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:40.900 Pacific Fabrics, curity skills, you need to develop as well. 00:21:40.900 --> 00:21:42.700 I think it's important to have me a good bread, 00:21:42.700 --> 00:21:47.700 that bread. There's a lot of people can actually have, 00:21:47.700 --> 00:21:50.200 they don't need to be on, technical to work in cyber security 00:21:50.200 --> 00:21:53.700 anymore and you could be a substitute against policy analyst 00:21:53.700 --> 00:21:54.900 and the end up not know. I 00:21:54.900 --> 00:21:56.700 had a program or Kyoto have lucky. I 00:21:56.700 --> 00:22:00.600 just can't stand being retain the technical skills Administration 00:22:00.600 --> 00:22:04.900 for example. He got a background and I bet it's really really 00:22:04.900 --> 00:22:07.400 important so that I can build at the capabilities profession. 00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:10.300 Broadly, I'm going to feel the sudden you inside security. 00:22:10.300 --> 00:22:11.200 I'll let the servant. 00:22:11.700 --> 00:22:15.500 Get a lot of breads at least be able to understand all the different 00:22:15.500 --> 00:22:16.500 types of sub security. 00:22:16.500 --> 00:22:19.600 I'm so when we start again with Katie and start shooting 00:22:19.600 --> 00:22:22.500 at Mouse's program, that's one of the things I tried to put rice 00:22:22.500 --> 00:22:25.500 from late, is my get a tan to fade a little bit of everything. 00:22:25.500 --> 00:22:29.000 I've been wondering, if you find something to eat really is easier. 00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:30.200 Nation, you're brave. 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:32.700 And then you can go deep into it and that's sort of like a 00:22:32.700 --> 00:22:35.000 date. Then I should have a t-shape professional which is probably 00:22:35.000 --> 00:22:36.300 a good career. 00:22:36.300 --> 00:22:39.600 Anybody know it's a and most people if you have a good price 00:22:39.600 --> 00:22:41.500 on a lots of breads they can, I 00:22:41.500 --> 00:22:43.900 see lucky transferable skills with a little different 00:22:43.900 --> 00:22:46.800 than mine and industries, that anyone who gets it again because 00:22:46.800 --> 00:22:49.400 Nations faced in the way can I see add a little bit see if 00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:51.900 they contact you about you and that differentiates 00:22:51.900 --> 00:22:53.900 you from all the paper when you going to show up soon as well 00:22:53.900 --> 00:22:56.300 and then they're sitting job the way you need to get a death 00:22:56.300 --> 00:22:59.700 experience that your teeth experience really is any real. 00:22:59.700 --> 00:23:02.300 But when you can have that conversation with many, 00:23:02.300 --> 00:23:05.200 many people across like a brew, it feels like you to come to the 00:23:05.200 --> 00:23:07.800 case yet, professional it is cuz it's quite important. 00:23:08.600 --> 00:23:12.600 I'm afraid the specialist the deadliest contact with Like An Idiot 00:23:12.600 --> 00:23:13.500 Abroad, a great day as well. 00:23:15.600 --> 00:23:19.200 With the last question here that brings us to the end of this 00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:21.200 conversation. Thank you. 00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:23.700 He's in our audience and it's got a special thanks to you for 00:23:23.700 --> 00:23:25.000 taking part in this child. 00:23:25.400 --> 00:23:27.600 Think that can I play pleasure? 00:23:28.600 --> 00:23:31.100 Just as this has been a great conversation here, 00:23:31.100 --> 00:23:34.600 please keep an eye out for another installment soon of the entire 00:23:34.600 --> 00:23:36.000 executive session to straight up.