WEBVTT 00:00:05.500 --> 00:00:07.800 Do you know Cory? 00:00:07.800 --> 00:00:10.700 How's it going? 00:00:10.700 --> 00:00:17.000 You guys know each other maybe just if you want to start off 00:00:17.000 --> 00:00:20.200 with BB, how do you how do you know Metallica and then maybe 00:00:20.200 --> 00:00:21.400 Lars to just you know, what? 00:00:21.400 --> 00:00:22.500 Do you know about the first time? I 00:00:22.500 --> 00:00:29.600 think it was a off-road video game that my brother got but 00:00:29.600 --> 00:00:32.500 I just like loved the music to it and it happened to me Metallica 00:00:32.500 --> 00:00:35.400 and then my fandom kind of blossomed. 00:00:35.400 --> 00:00:39.100 Obviously. I was a kid in the early 2000 so8 is always kind 00:00:39.100 --> 00:00:43.200 of a gift when a band that you just get into has an entire 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:47.500 catalog already like they're still putting out albums, 00:00:47.500 --> 00:00:50.000 but you just you get to go back and like listen to everything 00:00:50.000 --> 00:00:57.900 and I would say by 50% of the kids out there or 15 or 00:00:57.900 --> 00:01:00.700 younger and are seeing a litter for the first time. 00:01:00.700 --> 00:01:02.900 I can see it in my own kid. 00:01:02.900 --> 00:01:06.500 You'll stay see my youngest his Bands like Black Sabbath 00:01:06.500 --> 00:01:10.300 and you'll listen to all these great Black Sabbath songs and 00:01:10.300 --> 00:01:14.300 what he has no real understanding of the fact that the music 00:01:14.300 --> 00:01:18.400 he's listened to his 40 years old 50 years old and it doesn't 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:22.900 seem to have any role in his enjoyment and his connection 00:01:22.900 --> 00:01:29.500 of what what is experiencing is just so amazing how music just 00:01:29.500 --> 00:01:33.100 continues to cycle did a lot of the music that you grew up with 00:01:33.100 --> 00:01:33.800 come through your brother. 00:01:33.800 --> 00:01:37.300 Yeah, I think so for my parents but my parents were pretty 00:01:37.300 --> 00:01:41.800 deep in like the Laurel Canyon kind of like folk scene. 00:01:41.800 --> 00:01:44.400 I'm actually curious what you think about this cuz when I was 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:49.500 a kid, it was like new metal and stuff was happening and I didn't 00:01:49.500 --> 00:01:50.500 buy with it that hard. 00:01:50.500 --> 00:01:55.400 I like, you know, like older metal bands always I was curious 00:01:55.400 --> 00:02:00.800 what you like what your relationship is two people referencing 00:02:00.800 --> 00:02:04.100 Metallica have there been instances where you feel like flattered 00:02:04.100 --> 00:02:04.700 or your life? 00:02:04.900 --> 00:02:05.800 Man, that's so cool. 00:02:05.800 --> 00:02:08.300 Like this little kid is learning my drum parts. 00:02:08.300 --> 00:02:10.000 Are there times more like Jesus? 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:13.900 Like that's just exactly something that we made but like worse 00:02:13.900 --> 00:02:18.700 will have a lot of mixed emotions about I mean most of it and 00:02:18.700 --> 00:02:21.200 I know you can relate to this I guess I've always tried to speak 00:02:21.200 --> 00:02:24.400 my truth or you learn to have along the way that that truth is 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:27.800 often voluntary and you know, it's just sort of life. 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:31.600 You say something and then yeah, we did a month later come back 00:02:31.600 --> 00:02:35.100 to haunt you so I have so many mixed emotions about what you're saying, 00:02:35.100 --> 00:02:40.300 but I understand that Metallica has made a difference 00:02:40.300 --> 00:02:44.100 and obviously I'm super proud of that and super grateful 00:02:44.100 --> 00:02:45.900 for the same time. 00:02:45.900 --> 00:02:49.800 I've conditioned myself to kind of always look ahead. 00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:53.900 There's almost a fear of embracing the past of kind of getting 00:02:53.900 --> 00:02:58.500 stuck in the past fear of a kind of glorifying past all four 00:02:58.500 --> 00:03:00.100 of us have kind of elements of that. 00:03:00.100 --> 00:03:02.900 So for us, it's always about what's next. 00:03:02.900 --> 00:03:04.700 It's always about the future. 00:03:04.900 --> 00:03:07.400 So what's your favorite Metallica record? 00:03:07.400 --> 00:03:10.400 Well, you know, my ferret Metallica's one we haven't made yet 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:13.900 because if that's not my favorite Metallica record, 00:03:13.900 --> 00:03:16.000 why do it I mean you have gray pants too, 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:18.800 but you also have hands that hat that are pretty entitled 00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:21.800 and have ownership over you and really like these are the real 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:24.700 Metallica records in the next book them after this time. 00:03:24.700 --> 00:03:27.700 And then like we're just talking about you'll have 15 year old 00:03:27.700 --> 00:03:29.900 kids who are seeing their first Metallica show. 00:03:29.900 --> 00:03:32.800 That's what changes are banned from having like lungevity 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:35.800 to just being like well, we should probably do it people likes 00:03:35.800 --> 00:03:43.000 last time that we did back in the day is now that everybody's 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:43.300 got an opinion. 00:03:43.300 --> 00:03:44.900 You got to be really careful. 00:03:44.900 --> 00:03:48.800 You don't get caught up in that right when that gifted, 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:51.000 you know, this is really interesting. 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:53.800 You can sit and read what people think of you after wild. 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:58.400 Like hold on you that can go someplace maybe not great, 00:03:58.400 --> 00:03:59.800 you know, so I think there's this 00:04:00.500 --> 00:04:04.700 This tendency to kind of glorify I guess, 00:04:04.700 --> 00:04:07.900 you know master puppets Ride the Lightning and justice for all 00:04:07.900 --> 00:04:11.000 whatever. Those are the guys that maybe have the the loudest 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:14.300 voices but when you dig deeper into it, 00:04:14.300 --> 00:04:18.300 it's surprisingly pretty evenly spread out over the course 00:04:18.300 --> 00:04:21.500 of four hundred years with doing this and the craziest thing 00:04:21.500 --> 00:04:24.900 is it's just what happened with the last record because that 00:04:24.900 --> 00:04:29.100 became this is the best record they made known 25 years or whatever. 00:04:29.100 --> 00:04:34.500 So I guess if that can still happen that's another reason 00:04:34.500 --> 00:04:37.800 to keep doing it, you know, yeah and the internet especially 00:04:37.800 --> 00:04:41.100 now but even in the beginning, I think it incentivizes 00:04:41.100 --> 00:04:46.700 arguing and I think it incentivizes like the craziest and loudest 00:04:46.700 --> 00:04:48.500 most toxic people. 00:04:48.500 --> 00:04:52.000 So that stuff always kind of fliss the surface but I mean the 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:54.600 Napster thing is so interesting to me because now we're sitting 00:04:54.600 --> 00:04:59.800 in 2020 and somebody who doesn't play music at all is making 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:00.200 all the money. 00:05:00.500 --> 00:05:04.800 I'm screaming and I be like fans felt victimized cuz they were 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:07.600 like, you know, I don't have any money and I just want to have 00:05:07.600 --> 00:05:10.900 this record and it's like you're getting fucked over to do like 00:05:10.900 --> 00:05:13.700 it's a new business now having come from somewhere where you 00:05:13.700 --> 00:05:17.100 made money actually on records and then now streaming it's just 00:05:17.100 --> 00:05:21.700 kind of secondary and you have to go into her costly to make 00:05:21.700 --> 00:05:24.300 actual money. It's just it must be so weird. 00:05:24.300 --> 00:05:28.900 It was a weird time because it was so it was so unexpected. 00:05:28.900 --> 00:05:33.600 So we consider 20 years later and look at it and most of the time 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:36.200 when I meet people that were kind of around then, 00:05:36.200 --> 00:05:37.800 you know, give me a little hug. 00:05:37.800 --> 00:05:42.100 Thank you for standing up for musicians bad and thank you for 00:05:42.100 --> 00:05:43.600 having a backwards. 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:45.800 No glory in any of that shit at all. 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:52.300 I find no victory at all Shell Shocked because it it was so unexpected. 00:05:52.300 --> 00:05:57.100 And it really started more as a on the like a street fight. 00:05:57.100 --> 00:06:00.000 It was like wait a minute one of our songs playing on the radio. 00:06:00.500 --> 00:06:03.800 Asians in the midwest like what the fuck is that a year was the 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:05.000 song we hadn't released yet. 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:09.600 So we started tracing it back and it was like what the fuc and 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:12.800 let's just go in all those like that's kind of the environment. 00:06:12.800 --> 00:06:15.400 We brought up it was you know, 00:06:15.400 --> 00:06:16.400 somebody fuk with you. 00:06:16.400 --> 00:06:19.300 We just go after that all of a sudden it was like all the 00:06:19.300 --> 00:06:27.300 lights came on and left certainly free crazy taste in my mouth, 00:06:27.300 --> 00:06:29.200 especially because those couple years. 00:06:29.200 --> 00:06:33.000 I mean everybody was my friend and then as soon as I was out 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:36.000 there and I look behind there was not a single person. 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:39.200 I was just out there by myself, 00:06:39.200 --> 00:06:43.900 but it was just it was really weird. 00:06:43.900 --> 00:06:46.300 So the way it's all kind of played out. 00:06:46.300 --> 00:06:51.800 I like the fact that you and me and Corey Gina wanted to record 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:53.200 a song this afternoon. 00:06:53.200 --> 00:06:56.400 We can have streaming and Sheridan world tomorrow. 00:06:56.400 --> 00:06:59.800 That's really cool because it's a way that we can all express 00:06:59.800 --> 00:07:00.000 ourselves. 00:07:00.900 --> 00:07:06.300 Without having to go through that whole record company fucking 00:07:06.300 --> 00:07:08.300 thing for the same time. 00:07:08.300 --> 00:07:11.100 Obviously, as you know, there's nothing to make anybody stand 00:07:11.100 --> 00:07:15.100 out. Yeah. How do you separate with Stevie Lars and chord banjo 00:07:15.100 --> 00:07:19.100 from the other BV Larson cord bands that are on the same street 00:07:19.100 --> 00:07:26.400 that become so hard out there that just doesn't find a way to 00:07:26.400 --> 00:07:31.400 rise up. So there's a positive and a negative to all that stuff 00:07:31.400 --> 00:07:32.500 that you're talking about. 00:07:32.500 --> 00:07:33.700 But you don't want thing. 00:07:33.700 --> 00:07:36.100 I was looking still this back to you because I'm very proud 00:07:36.100 --> 00:07:38.200 of what we've done with metallic in the last five years. 00:07:38.200 --> 00:07:41.900 We made a real effort to really engage our social media, 00:07:41.900 --> 00:07:44.900 but it's still something that's kind of new to was it's never 00:07:44.900 --> 00:07:48.800 been something that you have been an artist without tell me about 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:53.400 how you view social media and how you use it to get your shit 00:07:53.400 --> 00:07:57.100 out the communicate with your fans and someone I always end up 00:07:57.100 --> 00:08:00.100 on that The Devil's Advocate side of social media. 00:08:00.100 --> 00:08:00.600 Maybe she's 00:08:00.900 --> 00:08:05.000 Like a lot of older friends are people who aren't on it or think 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:08.700 it's stupid and I feel like I end up just being like but look 00:08:08.700 --> 00:08:12.200 this kid made up a dance to one of my songs and they didn't even 00:08:12.200 --> 00:08:13.100 have to really do anything. 00:08:13.100 --> 00:08:15.400 I was just Metallica sticker Panthers. 00:08:15.400 --> 00:08:15.900 I bet they do. 00:08:15.900 --> 00:08:23.200 But yeah, I think it's great screaming like you're saying 00:08:23.200 --> 00:08:24.800 like you can just put stuff up. 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:27.100 It's it's nice to have like a direct line. 00:08:27.100 --> 00:08:31.700 I think that was so nice about it is that you can be kind 00:08:31.700 --> 00:08:36.000 of really genuine or if my friend put that a song that I think 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:41.000 is Brad I can post it on Instagram and kind of direct fans that 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:43.700 I'm it's just just as kind of like constant. 00:08:44.600 --> 00:08:47.300 like window into 00:08:48.400 --> 00:08:52.600 you know my views on musically or telling people to vote. 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:54.700 I think it's great. 00:08:54.700 --> 00:08:57.300 But obviously it has a dark side like everything else. 00:08:57.300 --> 00:09:02.500 Should I just put it up on my Instagram now? 00:09:02.500 --> 00:09:06.200 Did you purposely sort of think of the social media aspect 00:09:06.200 --> 00:09:07.800 of it as you're creating? 00:09:07.800 --> 00:09:11.700 Not really, I think once once we're recording and kind of fucking 00:09:11.700 --> 00:09:16.300 around it's fun to post little clips and stuff, 00:09:16.300 --> 00:09:18.900 but I'm not thinking about it like while I'm writing songs, 00:09:18.900 --> 00:09:22.600 although I do send it immediately when I'm done with the song. 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:24.900 I'll send it to like five people cuz I'm a solo artist. 00:09:24.900 --> 00:09:26.800 I don't have a band. 00:09:26.800 --> 00:09:29.600 I just have like people to give me a thumbs-up or thumbs-down 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:31.400 like my friends. 00:09:31.400 --> 00:09:35.800 So I like the immediacy of my cell phone basically being constantly 00:09:35.800 --> 00:09:38.700 around me when you say you're still the water doesn't mean I found 00:09:38.700 --> 00:09:39.600 some clips of you. 00:09:40.900 --> 00:09:49.200 Einstein was Einstein's secret Iran Feinstein's dirty secret 00:09:49.200 --> 00:10:01.900 and sloppy SEC sausage, and it's kind of just in in the collective 00:10:01.900 --> 00:10:04.800 set up in the band set up and then migrated out of those two 00:10:04.800 --> 00:10:06.300 projects and do your own thing. 00:10:06.300 --> 00:10:10.400 Yeah. I think I just didn't like my name very much and was like, 00:10:10.400 --> 00:10:11.900 I got to have a band named. 00:10:11.900 --> 00:10:14.700 I want to be like rock uncensored here. 00:10:14.700 --> 00:10:16.200 It was just my songs. 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:19.700 We were going for like a more hardcore thing that I think we achieved. 00:10:19.700 --> 00:10:22.900 I think it ended up being kind of like Coldplay every song was 00:10:22.900 --> 00:10:24.600 like at the end was really loud, 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:32.500 but then PJ in is my friend's band that I just played bass in 00:10:32.500 --> 00:10:33.900 and I have many bands. 00:10:33.900 --> 00:10:36.500 I have a band of Conor Oberst Better Living Community Center. 00:10:41.400 --> 00:10:46.300 You have the same with Connor and you have one more than one 00:10:46.300 --> 00:10:49.400 and you've done all of that in the same time. 00:10:49.400 --> 00:10:51.200 We toured on our last album. 00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:57.400 I mean, which is pretty crazy. 00:10:57.400 --> 00:11:00.000 We are you always writing. 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:03.600 You know, why you always just thinking about the next thing 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:07.400 ya I think I'm right in regardless up what form it's going to 00:11:07.400 --> 00:11:09.400 take. So if someone's like hey, 00:11:09.400 --> 00:11:10.400 we should start a band. 00:11:10.400 --> 00:11:11.400 I'm like cool. 00:11:11.400 --> 00:11:14.000 I have you know, three new songs, 00:11:14.000 --> 00:11:16.100 but could be sweet or have this guitar Rift. 00:11:16.100 --> 00:11:19.200 But but yeah, that's a three-year album Cycles. 00:11:19.200 --> 00:11:20.500 Pretty pretty Steve. 00:11:20.500 --> 00:11:29.700 I can't imagine why someone would maybe want to take somebody 00:11:29.700 --> 00:11:32.000 said something to me a couple weeks ago, 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:37.000 which I never heard articulated that take away and he said to 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:40.200 me he goes you're always up for anything, 00:11:40.200 --> 00:11:41.300 you know the angle. 00:11:41.400 --> 00:11:44.700 So you saying that the Brits say you're the well afford it was 00:11:44.700 --> 00:11:49.600 one of those kind of I guess I'm always awkward because I guess 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:51.100 of nature. I'm curious. 00:11:51.100 --> 00:11:56.500 I'm interested. I always want to turn a t-shirt. 00:11:56.500 --> 00:12:01.000 I don't know about it and learn or put myself into unknown 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:03.700 situations, but they had primaries driven by curiosity. 00:12:03.700 --> 00:12:05.300 Does that same thing applied? 00:12:05.300 --> 00:12:07.400 You want me if somebody said, hey, 00:12:07.400 --> 00:12:08.300 let's do a banal. 00:12:08.300 --> 00:12:11.900 Let's do a thing or what you don't have some fun with some music 00:12:11.900 --> 00:12:15.900 generally always store 40 off for yeah, 00:12:15.900 --> 00:12:18.700 I'm curious about all sorts of stuff. 00:12:18.700 --> 00:12:21.500 Like I've produced records now, which is really fun for me. 00:12:21.500 --> 00:12:25.400 I think that the thing like if I've been on tour for two years, 00:12:25.400 --> 00:12:28.600 I'm pretty sure that I'm never going to tour again cuz I hate 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:31.500 it so much if I'm home or in the studio for too long, 00:12:31.500 --> 00:12:35.800 I'm like I want to fucking go on tour or if I've been riding 00:12:35.800 --> 00:12:39.200 by myself. I'm like, I need 10 people around me at all times. 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:41.200 So I think it's partly from now. 00:12:41.400 --> 00:12:44.500 To like yeah, I think the positive way to say I just I'm curious 00:12:44.500 --> 00:12:45.600 and I'm down for anything. 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:48.500 But the other way to say it is if I if I'm stuck in 00:12:48.500 --> 00:12:49.200 something too long. 00:12:49.200 --> 00:12:51.600 I drive myself fucking insane. 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:58.100 I have that so much but it it's I guess for me to Saint 00:12:58.100 --> 00:13:01.300 element of The Grass Is Always Greener somewhere else. 00:13:01.300 --> 00:13:04.500 A few of the interviews of red and so on you talk about how 00:13:04.500 --> 00:13:08.100 comfortable you are expressing everything that you're thinking 00:13:08.100 --> 00:13:11.500 I can kind of relate to that because I want to see human interaction. 00:13:11.500 --> 00:13:13.000 I love conversation. I 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:17.800 love talking music and creativity and process you seem like 00:13:17.800 --> 00:13:22.200 you're really comfortable always take elating your thoughts 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:23.100 and throwing it out there. 00:13:23.100 --> 00:13:24.700 Is that is that a fair read? 00:13:24.700 --> 00:13:26.100 Yeah. I think that's a fair read. 00:13:26.100 --> 00:13:28.000 I mean, I fucking I love talking about myself. 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:31.800 I think that like press trips right in the beginning. 00:13:31.800 --> 00:13:35.200 I'm so stoked but then I will totally cringe especially 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:38.100 if I did like three interviews in a row and I and I see 00:13:38.100 --> 00:13:42.500 myself answer the same question any exact Same way with the exact 00:13:42.500 --> 00:13:46.200 same man. I felt like you can just sort of like Spiral and drive 00:13:46.200 --> 00:13:49.900 yourself crazy. And I'm and you're like an asshole you ever 00:13:49.900 --> 00:13:52.400 do like a really in-depth interview or they likes you a whole 00:13:52.400 --> 00:13:57.600 paragraph of how you like enter the interview and someone 00:13:57.600 --> 00:14:00.700 describe me as a is a gas Biscoe girl. 00:14:00.700 --> 00:14:04.800 Your VSCO girl is just like a type of Instagram filter kind 00:14:04.800 --> 00:14:08.600 of like Chris any maybe like just that type of basic hosting 00:14:08.600 --> 00:14:09.700 photos like a sunset. 00:14:09.700 --> 00:14:12.200 That's like a disco girl and someone accuse me of it being 00:14:12.200 --> 00:14:15.000 a goth disco girl and I think it made me want to quit interviews 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:16.600 for like years. 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:18.500 I hope I don't get burned out on it. 00:14:18.500 --> 00:14:20.700 I mean you seem to still enjoy it wishes. 00:14:20.700 --> 00:14:23.300 You know, I have hope for myself. 00:14:23.300 --> 00:14:25.700 Maybe I won't get burned out for every supermundane 00:14:25.700 --> 00:14:32.200 bucking eye-rolling interview often conversations that stimulating 00:14:32.200 --> 00:14:35.200 and that's interesting and it gets a little into the oldest 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:37.400 two phases to an interview. 00:14:38.000 --> 00:14:40.300 How did you record the last record? 00:14:40.300 --> 00:14:46.200 I mean you can really only get into a practical factual conversation. 00:14:46.200 --> 00:14:49.000 But when you get into what you're thinking and what your views 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:50.000 are and stuff also. 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:56.800 Limited necessarily just some music but if it's art film poetry 00:14:56.800 --> 00:15:02.000 writing I'm always I guess attracted to people with the creative 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:06.900 spirit and and I love talking and engaging doesn't you graphical 00:15:06.900 --> 00:15:10.300 element talking about leave it at that. 00:15:10.300 --> 00:15:13.500 There's some countries were the interviews a much more. 00:15:13.500 --> 00:15:20.000 So here's my 10 questions of Germany for me. 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:21.700 They're like, why do women play music? 00:15:24.800 --> 00:15:30.900 When you get in the right mode with a white people and like 00:15:30.900 --> 00:15:33.600 you said get a chance to talk about yourself or about process 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:36.400 wherever he could be fucking awesome still and I think I finally 00:15:36.400 --> 00:15:39.700 read myself a while ago from a yogurt. 00:15:39.700 --> 00:15:42.700 Make sure you speak on behalf of the band. 00:15:42.700 --> 00:15:46.900 You know, it's like Lars from Metallica for the first 20 years. 00:15:46.900 --> 00:15:51.700 You know, my last name was not already Metallica further 00:15:51.700 --> 00:15:56.000 down the road gets more comfortable about talking more about 00:15:56.000 --> 00:16:00.100 your own shit and and your own thoughts and in your own views, 00:16:00.100 --> 00:16:03.400 hookah, while I can wish they all could be like this. 00:16:03.400 --> 00:16:07.300 Did anybody ever like reach out to you and say like fuck you 00:16:07.300 --> 00:16:09.800 for what you said in this interview even outside of the band 00:16:09.800 --> 00:16:14.200 like I'll get screenshots for my mother being like I did not 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:17.600 stop you from playing the show in urine high school or like 00:16:17.600 --> 00:16:18.800 I was always very supportive. 00:16:24.800 --> 00:16:39.000 Crazy energy. I mean sleep 110% impulsivity and I guess allowed 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:40.300 myself to grow. 00:16:40.300 --> 00:16:44.800 I guess I've learned along the way is not limited to interviews 00:16:44.800 --> 00:16:49.600 choices. I made us a person but I don't have anything nice to 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:53.400 say I usually don't say it negative energies something 00:16:53.400 --> 00:16:54.800 I try to stay away from book. 00:16:54.800 --> 00:16:59.000 The bad news is that anything you say will be all over the world 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:00.300 in half an hour. 00:17:00.300 --> 00:17:05.100 The good news is that half hour later is gone because totally 00:17:05.100 --> 00:17:09.200 placing it. So it's got a shelf life for 12 seconds or whatever, 00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:11.300 you know, which is obviously different than 00:17:12.100 --> 00:17:13.300 The back in the day. 00:17:13.300 --> 00:17:16.800 Yeah, man. I feel I'm going to take a leaf out of that book. 00:17:16.800 --> 00:17:19.700 Do you have like super fan to come to shove it so many shows 00:17:19.700 --> 00:17:21.400 that you like know them by a first-name basis now. 00:17:22.700 --> 00:17:28.100 We actually started inside vehicle blackspigot which is so you 00:17:28.100 --> 00:17:31.400 buy ticket and that will get you into every show on the tour 00:17:31.400 --> 00:17:33.100 at the effect these kids. 00:17:33.100 --> 00:17:37.800 That's fallen out of fashion. 00:17:37.800 --> 00:17:40.300 What day is it travel with us everywhere? 00:17:40.300 --> 00:17:42.800 And they're always down the front row. 00:17:42.800 --> 00:17:45.900 They just don't on the road with Metallica and I can still 00:17:45.900 --> 00:17:47.800 relate to that cuz back in the day. 00:17:47.800 --> 00:17:50.600 I used to letters followed motor head around that would just 00:17:50.600 --> 00:17:53.400 drive behind their tour bus on I-5. 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:54.500 Let me throw it back to you. 00:17:54.500 --> 00:17:58.500 I've always Associated LA with work for the Black Album we were 00:17:58.500 --> 00:17:59.800 away for over a year. 00:17:59.800 --> 00:18:04.900 But the one thing about La culture at that time was most of the 00:18:04.900 --> 00:18:07.000 people who won LA in the circles. 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:08.800 We were in wall from somewhere else. 00:18:08.800 --> 00:18:13.400 They all came to LA to make it you were born in La tell 00:18:13.400 --> 00:18:15.800 me about what's your relationship with LA? 00:18:15.800 --> 00:18:19.900 Like I think I have a pretty healthy relationship with LA, 00:18:19.900 --> 00:18:21.600 but I've never lived anywhere else. 00:18:22.600 --> 00:18:26.100 And sometimes I meet kind of like different scenes are like 00:18:26.100 --> 00:18:29.300 Connor scene for example is very like Omaha Centric and they 00:18:29.300 --> 00:18:35.200 have no like no celebrity culture just like ingrained in them 00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:37.500 where I think I had to step away from it. 00:18:37.500 --> 00:18:39.800 Like the kids were dropping out of my high school to go beyond 00:18:39.800 --> 00:18:43.300 a TV show for years, which gives you the weirdest like inferiority 00:18:43.300 --> 00:18:48.000 complex for your like why am I not special by 10:30 secret 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:51.000 those guys all like quit my band to drop out in like join a 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:52.100 man that's going on tour. 00:18:52.100 --> 00:18:53.700 And I was so fucking jealous. 00:18:53.700 --> 00:18:56.500 I was so jealous, but like when people come here and hate it, 00:18:56.500 --> 00:18:57.400 I'm like, yeah for sure. 00:18:57.400 --> 00:19:00.600 You're right, but when people love it on like you're right, 00:19:00.600 --> 00:19:01.600 you're also right. 00:19:01.600 --> 00:19:05.800 I think you just have to kind of find your your scene. 00:19:05.800 --> 00:19:07.900 Like I love the music scene here. 00:19:07.900 --> 00:19:10.900 It's that there's this many by my house called the bootleg 00:19:10.900 --> 00:19:12.500 back in normal times. 00:19:12.500 --> 00:19:14.000 I'm literally at like twice a week. 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:17.700 I would like kill to go to a bootleg show to see like a 00:19:17.700 --> 00:19:21.300 sick band Bill and you know, you like crushed in the back of the 00:19:21.300 --> 00:19:22.100 room by people. 00:19:22.600 --> 00:19:23.500 I like the cultural. 00:19:23.500 --> 00:19:26.600 I love San Francisco to surprises me that celebrity culture 00:19:26.600 --> 00:19:35.400 is like Weston for you there or something like that. 00:19:35.400 --> 00:19:39.000 You come on like a wait for your car and then there's like five 00:19:39.000 --> 00:19:40.700 dudes taking pictures of everybody. 00:19:40.700 --> 00:19:47.800 I'm like, you don't really want to take her to me like all that 00:19:47.800 --> 00:19:51.600 because up here and in Denmark, you know, 00:19:51.600 --> 00:19:54.100 what which is obviously the two places that we spend the most 00:19:54.100 --> 00:19:58.400 time. It's just doesn't exist and Ximena go to La and all the 00:19:58.400 --> 00:20:01.800 sudden it's like blissfully ignorant forget about it and then 00:20:01.800 --> 00:20:04.100 all the sudden you're standing there and it's like some dudes 00:20:04.100 --> 00:20:07.400 like taking pictures of you and it's different from what we have 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:09.700 up here. Have you ever been miss rocket nised? 00:20:12.100 --> 00:20:14.300 Thursday you look familiar. 00:20:14.300 --> 00:20:18.700 Who are you and it's like I can't with a straight face. 00:20:18.700 --> 00:20:21.000 Hi, I'm lost without you. 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:36.800 I can't do that sounds like high school together at people. 00:20:36.800 --> 00:20:39.000 So just be kind of staring at somebody at a restaurant on 00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:40.100 my passive famous person. 00:20:40.100 --> 00:20:42.500 Like who is it in like doing the mental math? 00:20:42.500 --> 00:20:45.400 And my crew the fuck is that in the fucking fuck is that and 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:48.600 then I'll come over to me and be like Phoebe like you babysit 00:20:48.600 --> 00:20:51.900 my kids 6 years ago and I was like not a famous person is 00:20:51.900 --> 00:21:02.600 just someone I sort of things always when Oasis put their first 00:21:02.600 --> 00:21:08.500 single supersonic out which was a significant moment for me musically 00:21:08.500 --> 00:21:13.500 and then obviously worn Kerr die if that's 26 Years ago when 00:21:13.500 --> 00:21:16.800 you think of the year you were born what you think of a Kurt 00:21:16.800 --> 00:21:20.300 Cobain and and people like that make you think of them kind 00:21:20.300 --> 00:21:24.600 of in the same way that I could argue about Bill Haley and all 00:21:24.600 --> 00:21:28.100 those dudes Little Richard 20-30 years before my time. 00:21:28.100 --> 00:21:31.200 If you look at them more as as as peers, 00:21:31.200 --> 00:21:34.300 even though it's you know, what is 25 years ago. 00:21:34.300 --> 00:21:35.900 I think I do more now. 00:21:35.900 --> 00:21:37.300 Yeah, like when I was a kid, 00:21:37.300 --> 00:21:41.500 I was like all of the legendary Kurt Cobain or the legendary 00:21:41.500 --> 00:21:45.600 Elliott Smith, and then now just it makes me sad just being 00:21:45.600 --> 00:21:50.200 around La and and being like we we just want to know each other 00:21:50.200 --> 00:21:54.000 like could have seen him at some Festival in like cross passive. 00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:56.500 It feels kind of like there's just something so fucked up about 00:21:56.500 --> 00:22:00.000 about people dying young that. 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:02.200 I think I'm just been Reckoning with like the past couple 00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:04.200 years or I'm like, you know, the Forever 27, 00:22:04.200 --> 00:22:06.600 I'm like maybe 27 next year. 00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:08.600 Like that's fucking insane. 00:22:08.600 --> 00:22:11.100 That's like no time has no time on earth. 00:22:11.100 --> 00:22:13.500 Like I can't wait to do so much shit, 00:22:13.500 --> 00:22:19.000 which is a testament to to their like Artistry and and the huge 00:22:19.000 --> 00:22:20.500 that they left. 00:22:20.500 --> 00:22:22.600 But yeah, that was like one of the first things I learned 00:22:22.600 --> 00:22:25.100 about my birth year cuz I was obsessed Nirvana. 00:22:25.100 --> 00:22:28.800 What would the absolute first couple things you got into an old 00:22:28.800 --> 00:22:33.500 were you the first thing I got into work like Tom Waits before 00:22:33.500 --> 00:22:35.600 I even really started thinking about music is something that 00:22:35.600 --> 00:22:39.200 I could play and do I remember being very resentful 00:22:39.200 --> 00:22:40.900 of like piano lessons. 00:22:40.900 --> 00:22:45.100 Nobody's teaching me Tom Waits and Nirvana Jackson Browne 00:22:45.100 --> 00:22:48.500 pretty eclectic what all for my parents but I think one of the 00:22:48.500 --> 00:22:51.200 first things I really discovered for myself was like Elliott 00:22:51.200 --> 00:22:54.700 Smith, which is very influenced by like all that shit really 00:22:54.700 --> 00:23:00.700 and like my metal face, which has last my whole life was very 00:23:00.700 --> 00:23:02.900 confusing to my parents, especially because they were just pumping 00:23:02.900 --> 00:23:04.500 me full of like James Taylor. 00:23:04.500 --> 00:23:06.800 But yeah, I always have taken always pretty 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:11.400 Pull up like having to learn piano which I wish I knew now. 00:23:11.400 --> 00:23:13.900 So how old were you when you started I've been listening 00:23:13.900 --> 00:23:15.800 to music since I can remember. 00:23:15.800 --> 00:23:19.100 I probably the first the very first thing when I had no autonomy, 00:23:19.100 --> 00:23:22.700 what's the Beatles which is a great starting place. 00:23:22.700 --> 00:23:25.800 I now have like an encyclopedic knowledge, 00:23:25.800 --> 00:23:28.600 especially cuz of Tony bird there is not a day that goes by that 00:23:28.600 --> 00:23:31.200 he doesn't make me listen to something that I haven't heard 00:23:31.200 --> 00:23:33.700 of The Beatles which is like how they were banned for what like 00:23:33.700 --> 00:23:37.200 5 years. It's crazy how much there but then I started really 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:40.200 playing us like, I don't know if 12 what was your first like 00:23:40.200 --> 00:23:44.600 super fandom and intro into drums and stuff to my version of 00:23:44.600 --> 00:23:46.700 that is my dad. 00:23:46.700 --> 00:23:50.500 He was playing tennis that was kind of day job of music was a 00:23:50.500 --> 00:23:55.000 passion and he was employed by a Danish newspaper to review 00:23:55.000 --> 00:23:59.200 jazz music and so my dad was playing that every day coming 00:23:59.200 --> 00:24:02.100 on yet a music room that was next to my room and it was 00:24:02.100 --> 00:24:05.600 just blaring all of of those artists, 00:24:05.600 --> 00:24:06.900 especially 00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:11.500 Text recording then and Charlie Parker educationally 00:24:11.500 --> 00:24:14.500 up there would be not so much Beatles, 00:24:14.500 --> 00:24:19.600 but there would be Rolling Stones Boris and Hendricks Zappa. 00:24:19.600 --> 00:24:23.800 And then when I was 9 years old and I saw deep purple and 00:24:23.800 --> 00:24:27.800 that sort of changed my life and then English music just everything 00:24:27.800 --> 00:24:30.800 that was coming out of England who was Deep Purple Black Sabbath 00:24:30.800 --> 00:24:38.700 Uriah Heep and then all the coke lamp bands in a sweet sweet 00:24:38.700 --> 00:24:42.100 and Slade and then a movement called a new wave of British 00:24:42.100 --> 00:24:48.000 heavy metal which was sort of Iron Maiden Saxon Def Leppard 00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:52.600 that started in 79-80 of that's what really made me want to be 00:24:52.600 --> 00:24:55.000 in a band totally start playing Guitar, 00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:57.400 but I saw myself are drumming. 00:24:57.400 --> 00:25:00.400 I don't know why and I just want it to be in a new 00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:01.900 wave of British heavy metal band. 00:25:02.500 --> 00:25:05.800 And so I put an ad in recycler, 00:25:05.800 --> 00:25:15.000 you know what the recyclers know, but I'm loving my recycling 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:18.200 somebody selling a car motorcycle or bicycle whatever there was 00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:21.300 a small couple of sessions in the back in a musicians 00:25:21.300 --> 00:25:23.800 looking for bands and bands looking for musicians. 00:25:23.800 --> 00:25:26.700 I put drama wants to start a heavy metal band. 00:25:26.700 --> 00:25:30.700 That's how I met Hatfield and then start on how to add Metallica 00:25:30.700 --> 00:25:36.800 is the only band I've ever been in a crazy just like rock doc 00:25:36.800 --> 00:25:41.100 catnip right? There is like meeting in an ad so cool. 00:25:41.100 --> 00:25:41.900 What's so crazy. 00:25:41.900 --> 00:25:43.400 I guess about our story. 00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:47.100 It's just the fact that we were so young. 00:25:47.100 --> 00:25:49.200 I was seventeen head feels eighteen. 00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:52.200 We just started and within six months. 00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:57.500 We were playing shows up in in in Hollywood not fitting in a tall 00:25:57.500 --> 00:26:02.700 ceiling only ostracized a fucking like Outcast or whatever, 00:26:02.700 --> 00:26:05.600 but then somebody by this complaint San Francisco still love 00:26:05.600 --> 00:26:09.400 with you instantly and moved up 5 minutes later. 00:26:09.400 --> 00:26:14.100 He got to tell me the other let me reference and smoke signals. 00:26:14.100 --> 00:26:18.900 I was on a road trip with my drummer and we're listening 00:26:18.900 --> 00:26:23.200 to the radio and they were talking about how Lemmy passed 00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:27.600 away on the radio and I'll let me was alive and I was like, 00:26:27.600 --> 00:26:32.100 oh my fucking god, it's crazy that he was alive this whole 00:26:32.100 --> 00:26:34.000 time. So he like died twice to me. 00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:36.800 I guess I just like sometimes always assume those people who 00:26:36.800 --> 00:26:39.800 are kind of famous for like living hard aren't around anymore. 00:26:39.800 --> 00:26:43.300 And so it was just like a weird mind fuck and then yeah, 00:26:43.300 --> 00:26:43.900 we just like 00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:48.200 Set the whole road trip, like screaming along then like making 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:50.600 play less than kind of like revisiting music. 00:26:50.600 --> 00:26:55.700 I hadn't Listen to I don't know in like so many years and fond 00:26:55.700 --> 00:26:56.500 memories for sure. 00:26:56.500 --> 00:27:03.700 Yeah. They totally there are other bands on our what do we put 00:27:03.700 --> 00:27:04.400 on a playlist? 00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:05.600 I probably still have it. 00:27:05.600 --> 00:27:07.800 That is one thing that I love about the internet if you can kind 00:27:07.800 --> 00:27:11.000 of like if you misplace a record in your apartment and you're 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:14.400 like no idea where that is, but then the internet it has like 00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:19.400 my summer 2011 playlist on like my Spotify I listen to a lot 00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:25.100 of Motorhead water Metallica have dabbled in the Slayer world 00:27:25.100 --> 00:27:28.700 and then like maybe weirdly really late for me, 00:27:28.700 --> 00:27:30.400 but maybe like 2013. 00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:32.600 I got like super super into Nine Inch Nails. 00:27:32.600 --> 00:27:37.400 You can't deny him in the Ya-Ya the sounds to me like I'm some 00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:40.300 kind of like a production nerd and it's one of those musical 00:27:40.300 --> 00:27:43.200 influences that I feel like isn't very obvious in my music, 00:27:43.200 --> 00:27:43.600 but 00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:48.700 Play with maybe this next record kind of cut it I visit it but 00:27:48.700 --> 00:27:49.800 but not that hard. 00:27:49.800 --> 00:27:54.300 I also have kind of an apathetic voice and I feel self-conscious 00:27:54.300 --> 00:27:56.600 that when I scream I sound like musical theater, 00:27:56.600 --> 00:28:01.800 you know, I don't have like a metal like style scream. 00:28:01.800 --> 00:28:02.800 I just have like a 00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:22.100 What icing last World saying about the but you haven't found 00:28:22.100 --> 00:28:25.800 a way to start a channel that music's a few years ago for me. 00:28:25.800 --> 00:28:30.000 I realized that the shit that I really liked. 00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:32.800 It inspires me just to be Metallica. 00:28:32.800 --> 00:28:35.100 It is like inspires me to write song. 00:28:35.100 --> 00:28:36.900 So it's not even like that. 00:28:36.900 --> 00:28:38.100 You can take Trent. 00:28:38.100 --> 00:28:40.500 I'm not sitting there going fuck. 00:28:40.500 --> 00:28:43.400 How do I sample of how do I do something? 00:28:43.400 --> 00:28:47.300 That sounds like that or it's just that it turns me on so much 00:28:47.300 --> 00:28:52.700 that I want to go right or want to go Creator fucking share 00:28:52.700 --> 00:28:53.900 something with the world. 00:28:53.900 --> 00:28:58.400 Tell me one thing because we're trying to rush right now virtually 00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:01.700 riding, but you don't need to get into any but I'm kind of in 00:29:01.700 --> 00:29:04.100 a widening frame of mind when you write. 00:29:05.100 --> 00:29:08.700 Three different elements to my ear of those the lyric there's 00:29:08.700 --> 00:29:11.500 a melody and then there's the musical accompaniment 00:29:11.500 --> 00:29:12.400 what? 00:29:13.700 --> 00:29:16.400 Walking through the process what usually comes first either 00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:18.500 something will click and it's very small. 00:29:18.500 --> 00:29:22.900 Like I won't finish any one of those things before I started 00:29:22.900 --> 00:29:26.700 the other so either like a phrase as I sit down with a guitar 00:29:26.700 --> 00:29:30.900 and then I kind of just float around and try to find a melody 00:29:30.900 --> 00:29:33.700 in like it all comes weirdly at the same time. 00:29:33.700 --> 00:29:35.800 It feels like I feel like I write very carefully. 00:29:35.800 --> 00:29:37.900 There's nothing I hate more than Looking Back 2 Days Later 00:29:37.900 --> 00:29:39.000 being like that's dogshit. 00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:42.200 So I try to save myself from that by being like deliberate 00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:45.100 and I almost write an order like 00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:49.900 I might have like a verse in a chorus Melody before I have words, 00:29:49.900 --> 00:29:53.100 but for the most part I'm like riding the verse and then I'm 00:29:53.100 --> 00:29:55.500 like, okay first lyrics are done course. 00:29:55.500 --> 00:29:56.900 It's time for a chorus. 00:29:56.900 --> 00:30:00.000 And so I'm writing kind of word music simultaneously, 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:02.300 but my favorite thing to do is once that's done. 00:30:02.300 --> 00:30:07.100 I'll have like a page of lyrics and then the next page is blank 00:30:07.100 --> 00:30:11.400 and I'll kind of find ways to make him slightly better. 00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:17.700 One of the craziest things I've ever seen is in the Metallica 00:30:17.700 --> 00:30:22.500 documentary when your therapist slides over lyrics I was like, 00:30:22.500 --> 00:30:25.500 oh my God, that is that that like, 00:30:25.500 --> 00:30:28.400 I mean, I was trying to think like a parallel I did have it. 00:30:28.400 --> 00:30:32.700 I did listen to mixes with his therapist wants cuz she was like 00:30:32.700 --> 00:30:35.900 what he got to show me like what the fuc yourself anxious about 00:30:35.900 --> 00:30:39.200 but how is it was it too so weird to let kind of 00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:44.100 that let somebody into your world even even like sometimes 00:30:44.100 --> 00:30:44.900 like on a deeper level. 00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:48.900 Transitional experimental time. 00:30:48.900 --> 00:30:52.800 I mean it just so happened that these incredible filmmakers 00:30:52.800 --> 00:30:57.000 were around to start capturing the beginning of the next album, 00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:01.200 but then it ended up being all that and at that time we were 00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:06.200 so fucking open to anything that that was new and different 00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:13.200 that definitely was a fear of repetition and so would completely 00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:16.900 just run away from anything that we get done at that time. 00:31:16.900 --> 00:31:20.700 It was just forward forward forward fucking blinders on nothing. 00:31:20.700 --> 00:31:24.600 And so when he hands James lyrics I mean everything for those 00:31:24.600 --> 00:31:27.600 couple years was about being open with each other about the spirit 00:31:27.600 --> 00:31:32.400 of of of of no rules and I'm proud of the fucking dare of 00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:35.700 doing it. I'm proud of the day of the movie all of it. 00:31:35.700 --> 00:31:42.600 But then when Rick came just 25 years later and still 25 years 00:31:42.600 --> 00:31:45.500 into this it's okay to fucking 00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:47.900 Appreciate master puppets. 00:31:47.900 --> 00:31:51.500 It's okay to sit there and go Justice roll was kind of cool 00:31:51.500 --> 00:31:55.000 in here and here and it's okay to be inspired by that shit or 00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:57.600 whatever. So do you think your process as a band like changes 00:31:57.600 --> 00:31:59.700 literally every record will not so much, 00:31:59.700 --> 00:32:03.300 you know, after Death Magnetic and after Rick kind of made us 00:32:03.300 --> 00:32:08.400 feel comfortable about embracing the past will running less. 00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:12.900 I mean, we're still very cute, but I think we're more comfortable 00:32:12.900 --> 00:32:16.100 with understanding or strength. 00:32:16.100 --> 00:32:19.500 I think it was definitely a significant part of it just still 00:32:19.500 --> 00:32:23.500 kind of leftover shit from not feeling that we really spit in 00:32:23.500 --> 00:32:26.200 and then we will always just permanent Outsiders. 00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:29.400 I don't think it really wasn't sure which showed up that we just 00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:33.400 sort of maybe became more comfortable with with who we are and 00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:36.200 and stop trying to sort of hey, 00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:42.100 you know, we we want to belong to or it's like I just I 00:32:42.100 --> 00:32:45.400 think I'll just always have this thing in me that I don't belong 00:32:46.300 --> 00:32:49.000 I think it comes from being an only child that I'm not good 00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:52.200 enough and that is staying about always having to prove myself. 00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:57.500 The bad part is caring that the good part is I believe it probably 00:32:57.500 --> 00:33:02.000 makes you challenge yourself and hungry and makes you tenacious 00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:05.900 and keeps the spirit someone youthful. 00:33:05.900 --> 00:33:09.600 Yeah. I feel like it's an endless balance between like I'm God 00:33:09.600 --> 00:33:14.500 and like self-hatred like it. 00:33:14.500 --> 00:33:15.700 There must be some Middle Ground. 00:33:15.700 --> 00:33:19.200 I think the self-hatred can be confused. 00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:22.500 At least for me as the only tool that you have in your toolbox 00:33:22.500 --> 00:33:29.400 for making cool shit like Mania is why you make good stuff 00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:32.700 or why people like you or whatever and if you get too comfortable, 00:33:32.700 --> 00:33:37.000 you'll turn into a band of making the same record every 5 years 00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:40.000 or whatever. It's nice to just accept things about yourself 00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:42.100 and stuff that you work through and that the Crock-Pot 00:33:42.100 --> 00:33:44.200 that's a relief to hear. 00:33:46.300 --> 00:33:47.100 Wake me up. 00:33:47.100 --> 00:33:49.300 I I read the other day that you're starting a label. 00:33:49.300 --> 00:33:58.700 Yeah. Yeah. Y'all have a label to scream. 00:33:58.700 --> 00:34:00.100 But what I was going to say, 00:34:00.100 --> 00:34:04.000 which is not a lot of people know is that I actually had an 00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:11.300 imprint label Elektra records on that label. 00:34:11.300 --> 00:34:15.900 I have a distinction which is of all the records that ever came 00:34:15.900 --> 00:34:18.500 out under the Elektra records imprint. 00:34:18.500 --> 00:34:20.000 I have the least selling record. 00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:25.500 Wow, which is one of those electric in prison because they sent 00:34:25.500 --> 00:34:29.100 me a fucking when I was like 19 years old Alexa records sent 00:34:29.100 --> 00:34:31.600 me a $10,000 360 deal. 00:34:31.600 --> 00:34:35.200 So I think we're cool deduction Electra. 00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:40.400 We had a good run with Alexa. 00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:46.100 And like I said, we we which is sort of the the gold the 00:34:46.100 --> 00:34:47.800 pot of gold at the end of that rainbow, 00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:50.900 which is something that all the things that the fact that were 00:34:50.900 --> 00:34:57.100 thought. It was just a little bit about your foray into that. 00:34:57.100 --> 00:35:02.400 I mean, I definitely have a panic attack to take on but I think 00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:05.800 for the most part like the imprint part of it is nice because 00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:10.100 I just have had such a great experience with secretly Canadian 00:35:10.100 --> 00:35:13.700 like putting out my own records and a weirdly. 00:35:13.700 --> 00:35:16.800 I'm kind of like a marketing nerd I Love Thinking of like weird 00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:19.700 shit to do and I think that being shut out of the business 00:35:19.700 --> 00:35:23.500 side to is not that smart having had like some minor experiences 00:35:23.500 --> 00:35:24.500 with other labels. 00:35:24.500 --> 00:35:28.400 I felt like I can't run a record label entirely by myself, 00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:34.000 but I can show people the pass and it started mostly because 00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:36.600 Connor in my project. 00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:39.800 Santa. Oceans and then he had such a great experience 00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:42.400 that he signed Bright Eyes to that Oceanside. 00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:43.600 Like I just want to keep doing this. 00:35:43.600 --> 00:35:46.800 I just want to keep showing my friends kind of the light of this 00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:50.800 Indie label that like the fuc definitely is a lot of work and 00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:54.200 I'm terrified every day, but it's going to be fun. 00:35:54.200 --> 00:36:02.200 I'm going to try to beat your record of stalled secretly 00:36:02.200 --> 00:36:02.900 Canadian albums.