WEBVTT 00:00:03.100 --> 00:00:08.100 Welcome to useful idiots. 00:00:08.100 --> 00:00:15.400 I'm at Ivy in Corona virus. 00:00:15.400 --> 00:00:19.200 Let's do the four food groups as always first Democrats 00:00:19.200 --> 00:00:22.600 suck Republicans like as not where is not terrible for Democrats 00:00:22.600 --> 00:00:33.000 suck with the Hillary Biden interaction and went to be this 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:34.100 is a terrible crisis. 00:00:34.100 --> 00:00:37.700 It would be a terrible crisis to waste place again, 00:00:37.700 --> 00:00:41.600 if we can see that video in the town hall that you did with 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:43.100 with your butt. 00:00:48.600 --> 00:00:51.900 also a really high stakes election and 00:00:52.800 --> 00:00:58.000 Healthcare should continue to be available including reproductive 00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:01.600 health care for every woman in this town. 00:01:02.600 --> 00:01:03.700 and then it needs to be 00:01:04.600 --> 00:01:06.500 What's larger system that eventually? 00:01:08.500 --> 00:01:11.000 get Sauced Universal Health Care, so 00:01:12.300 --> 00:01:17.800 I can only say Amen to everything you're saying but also to again 00:01:17.800 --> 00:01:26.500 about what are absolute. 00:01:27.700 --> 00:01:40.100 Frailties are in our country the general humor of Hillary 00:01:40.100 --> 00:01:43.800 endorsing Biden like like that's going to be a game-changer. 00:01:43.800 --> 00:01:48.800 But Hillary is is quoting around manual quote from back in the 00:01:48.800 --> 00:01:53.600 Obama years, which was a quote that he used to refer to the economic 00:01:53.600 --> 00:01:58.100 crisis. And essentially it was political you have to make you 00:01:58.100 --> 00:02:01.500 know lemons out of lemonade out of lemons when you have but it 00:02:01.500 --> 00:02:04.000 was kind of an Infamous quote because you know, 00:02:04.000 --> 00:02:08.000 nobody wants to hear that you want to use a disaster to take 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:09.200 political advantage of something. 00:02:09.200 --> 00:02:13.000 So the tone-deafness of this is like multifaceted because 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:15.800 she's she's she's quoting and something that was already 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:21.100 like not a good idea to begin with and thinking that just because 00:02:21.100 --> 00:02:25.000 famous invent and everybody remembers the quote that is actually 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:27.300 going to receive positively it's just 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:30.400 Again certain things. 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:33.300 You just can't say when you're talking about situations. 00:02:33.300 --> 00:02:37.400 Like this universe is widespread death misery to disruption 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:43.600 and especially in the context of Hillary Clinton strategically 00:02:43.600 --> 00:02:46.100 throwing her weight behind Joe Biden. 00:02:46.100 --> 00:02:50.700 Let me show you my expertise and how to win elections by talking 00:02:50.700 --> 00:03:01.900 cynically about how to take advantage of the growth of the democratic 00:03:01.900 --> 00:03:05.400 party who's been disgraced even liked by his fans. 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:08.800 I mean, I think that because of his handling of the laquan 00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:13.000 McDonald shooting, you know, so it's it's it's so off on so many 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:17.100 levels. It's almost as if Hillary Clinton had ordered herself 00:03:17.100 --> 00:03:20.300 the baskets full of the basket of deplorables or something 00:03:20.300 --> 00:03:26.100 country is a basket of deplorables like 00:03:27.800 --> 00:03:34.600 And I actually what's funny is I totally agree. 00:03:34.600 --> 00:03:35.800 Even on a moral level. 00:03:35.800 --> 00:03:40.500 I agree with her like you can't you should be turning crises 00:03:40.500 --> 00:03:42.200 into I mean, let's be honest. 00:03:42.200 --> 00:03:45.300 I said that about maybe the upside of this is that it it really 00:03:45.300 --> 00:03:48.900 shows how important medicare-for-all is but I would never say 00:03:48.900 --> 00:03:52.300 that if I just did if I were a politician and I wouldn't say 00:03:52.300 --> 00:03:55.400 that and I certainly wouldn't say that especially 00:03:55.400 --> 00:03:59.500 sitting next to a guy who's who's not doing what could be the 00:03:59.500 --> 00:04:00.900 really important thing. 00:04:00.900 --> 00:04:05.200 The guy who was like being super moderate unnecessarily 00:04:05.200 --> 00:04:07.500 moderate in the time of Crisis like right, 00:04:07.500 --> 00:04:10.300 but he's not doing it and she wouldn't do it either. 00:04:10.300 --> 00:04:13.000 I'm sure Mom would agree with the sentiment. 00:04:13.000 --> 00:04:16.100 I think this the coronavirus is teaching us all kinds of things 00:04:16.100 --> 00:04:19.700 about how much are work Centric livestock and how much how many 00:04:19.700 --> 00:04:23.000 things we do that are unnecessary that we can maybe stop doing 00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:26.600 like spending half of our Lives getting to work and and you know, 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:29.600 Setting time with our families and all that other stuff, 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:32.400 but that doesn't mean I'm going to get on television in the context 00:04:32.400 --> 00:04:37.000 of end of endorsing a presidential candidate is Crisis go to someone 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:44.000 wants a divorce of our party one said and also as we can't 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:49.000 let this crisis go to waste Joe Biden wall medicare-for-all 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:53.600 is increasingly popular and you are refusing to get behind 00:04:53.600 --> 00:05:07.100 it. It looks like fighting falls asleep in the middle of this 00:05:07.100 --> 00:05:08.600 confab with Hillary daniff. 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:25.100 Are women and one out of three jobs that affects all of us young 00:05:25.100 --> 00:05:33.400 and old every praying or trying to remember what the his website 00:05:33.400 --> 00:05:45.600 is 30303. I thought that this was terrible for Biotin and it kind 00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:48.700 of amazing for Hillary because I tweeted something along those lines 00:05:48.700 --> 00:05:53.100 but Biden and Hillary are not very comfortable 00:05:53.100 --> 00:05:56.100 politically right maybe a little different and foreign policy 00:05:56.100 --> 00:05:59.300 stuff, but they're pretty comfortable and their aspects. 00:05:59.300 --> 00:06:03.000 I mean are not very different and she has a disparity Midwestern 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:07.400 accent and he has a I don't know rightly Midwest but Pennsylvania 00:06:07.400 --> 00:06:10.600 that are pretty similar where is with Biotin and 00:06:10.900 --> 00:06:14.400 Bernie but we were used to sing during the primary and during 00:06:14.400 --> 00:06:18.500 the debates. They're so different stylistically and politically 00:06:18.500 --> 00:06:21.300 right like that you're saying they don't overlap a lot politically 00:06:21.300 --> 00:06:23.500 40s and it has a very strong, 00:06:23.500 --> 00:06:27.600 you know, as you know, New York New York accent used to hands a 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:29.100 lot but I didn't do any of that. 00:06:29.100 --> 00:06:33.000 So I actually thought when I saw Hillary next to him and her 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:36.900 next to him, they just highlighted each other's contrast. 00:06:36.900 --> 00:06:40.600 So she just came off as incredibly slow like a slower than usual 00:06:40.600 --> 00:06:44.500 because Hillary say what you will about her and she does quote 00:06:44.500 --> 00:06:48.700 evil people without realizing it had that comes she's a fluent 00:06:48.700 --> 00:06:52.000 speaker and biologically alive. 00:06:52.700 --> 00:06:57.800 Send fully alert as the as a Chris Cuomo Praise by and for being 00:06:57.800 --> 00:07:02.300 during won debate fully alert the entire time. 00:07:02.300 --> 00:07:06.200 I think you sound extremely you know, 00:07:06.200 --> 00:07:10.000 say what you will about a rational reasonable and control 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:14.000 of her facilities and he comes off as even less than usual 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:15.400 because of that. 00:07:15.400 --> 00:07:21.100 What should be more of a parallel then it is because of the reversed 00:07:21.100 --> 00:07:25.300 and quill member of George HW Bush when he nominated Dan Quayle 00:07:25.300 --> 00:07:26.700 at home was like, why are they doing that? 00:07:26.700 --> 00:07:29.200 He's the damn quails has the biggest lightweight mystery. 00:07:29.200 --> 00:07:31.100 The guy can't spell potato what's going on? 00:07:31.100 --> 00:07:35.000 Actually it was brilliant because next to Dan Quayle George 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:37.400 Bush. Do you know you look like a cross between do you know 00:07:37.400 --> 00:07:41.100 Shakespeare and Niels Bohr or something like that genius, 00:07:41.100 --> 00:07:43.800 but this is this is this is the opposite you said, 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:47.900 he's standing next to an alert functioning competent person 00:07:47.900 --> 00:07:49.700 who is not a good contrast for Joe. 00:07:49.700 --> 00:07:50.900 I thought you're absolutely right. 00:07:52.700 --> 00:07:56.200 Wonky and wonkish, you know, what else was interesting? 00:07:56.200 --> 00:08:00.100 Is that and Natalie sure we did something about this about 00:08:00.100 --> 00:08:04.900 how how much Natalie Shores not she's like a leftist feminist 00:08:04.900 --> 00:08:08.400 who is disturbed by Hillary's brand of feminism does not like 00:08:08.400 --> 00:08:11.300 her and she's a big medicare-for-all person, 00:08:11.300 --> 00:08:17.100 but she tweeted that that Hillary really came off well and more 00:08:17.100 --> 00:08:21.000 natural in this context and I do think that's true. 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:24.900 I think she came off much better than than she does when she's 00:08:24.900 --> 00:08:28.400 you know, and other contacts and I remember that Pat I heard 00:08:28.400 --> 00:08:31.500 Pat Buchanan say this once he was kind of like, 00:08:31.500 --> 00:08:34.900 you know, Hillary in real life comes off is very warm. 00:08:34.900 --> 00:08:37.400 She's warm and charming and on television. 00:08:37.400 --> 00:08:41.800 She doesn't come off that way from what I understand really 00:08:41.800 --> 00:08:44.900 like Hillary if we saw the real Hillary, 00:08:44.900 --> 00:08:47.400 I'm not hate her politics, but I'd like her personality. 00:08:47.400 --> 00:08:49.800 I not surprised. 00:08:52.700 --> 00:08:56.100 But I think it's truly came out in the speeches that were released 00:08:56.100 --> 00:08:59.300 in 2016 when she's talking to Goldman Sachs. 00:08:59.300 --> 00:09:04.500 She's she's so much more at ease and comfortable and open once 00:09:04.500 --> 00:09:08.100 you talking to people he considers her people and act and actually 00:09:08.100 --> 00:09:11.000 you can you can you can follow the rationale of a lot of what 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:14.400 you saying, but it's when she's speaking to you know, 00:09:14.400 --> 00:09:18.800 the unwashed that this other thing comes up and it's very difficult 00:09:18.800 --> 00:09:29.200 connect with some what difference does it make and I think 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:33.400 she was told to Stop In Her Image and it backfired and I think 00:09:33.400 --> 00:09:35.700 she was going to lose all the people who thought of her as a 00:09:35.700 --> 00:09:40.400 like a strident complaining Trail woman anyway, 00:09:40.400 --> 00:09:42.300 so she might as well have like done her thing. 00:09:42.300 --> 00:09:43.400 That's probably true. 00:09:43.400 --> 00:09:49.400 Yeah, and what do we have for Republicans suck a little bit of 00:09:49.400 --> 00:09:52.400 a debate about how much better non? 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:57.100 Trump people would be then Trump over the coronavirus 00:09:57.100 --> 00:09:59.900 and because you and I agree. 00:09:59.900 --> 00:10:03.900 We should we talk about this all the time that Trump as bad as 00:10:03.900 --> 00:10:08.600 he is and he's often is kind of inappropriately blamed for things 00:10:08.600 --> 00:10:10.800 in other words, like the Russia gate stuff, 00:10:10.800 --> 00:10:13.200 right it distract him while they're real things that he's he's 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:17.800 doing that are truly reprehensible and I do think that MSNBC 00:10:17.800 --> 00:10:21.600 going from non-stop coverage of Russia gate to non-stop 00:10:21.600 --> 00:10:24.700 coverage of isn't Trump an idiot, which I think that point 00:10:24.700 --> 00:10:28.000 has been sufficiently made and not doing any kind of original 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:30.100 reporting about it just talking about the same thing again, 00:10:30.100 --> 00:10:31.000 again is very dangerous. 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:33.900 But I also do think it's dangerous to have Donald Trump in office 00:10:33.900 --> 00:10:38.400 and this is Trump as you guys probably know he made it interesting 00:10:38.400 --> 00:10:41.900 medical suggestion and then he tried to find he was being sarcastic 00:10:41.900 --> 00:10:43.300 and walking a pack. 00:10:43.300 --> 00:10:49.300 So here here we go by your comments about injections of disinfectant 00:10:49.300 --> 00:10:49.900 if they're quite 00:10:52.600 --> 00:10:54.600 Borders like you just to see what would happen. 00:10:54.600 --> 00:10:59.400 Now disinfectant, we're doing this may be on the hands were 00:10:59.400 --> 00:11:05.000 in a minute 1 minute. 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:10.900 And is there a way we can do something like that by injection 00:11:10.900 --> 00:11:15.800 inside or or almost a planing cuz he's he gets on the lungs 00:11:15.800 --> 00:11:18.800 and it does a tremendous number Alexa be interesting 00:11:18.800 --> 00:11:21.900 to check that so that you can have to use medical doctors 00:11:21.900 --> 00:11:25.700 with but it sounds it sounds interesting to me and said we'll 00:11:25.700 --> 00:11:28.100 see but the whole concept of the light the way it goes in one 00:11:28.100 --> 00:11:30.500 minute that says that's pretty powerful. 00:11:31.400 --> 00:11:37.100 That's an amazing clip on so many levels and I do think it does 00:11:37.100 --> 00:11:41.300 speak to Trump's unique failures in this moment. 00:11:41.300 --> 00:11:44.300 It's hilarious. That was off the cop. 00:11:44.300 --> 00:11:45.900 I think he thought of it in the moment, 00:11:45.900 --> 00:11:47.600 right and it's good. 00:11:47.600 --> 00:11:50.200 So it could have been worse you could have said it definitely 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:53.300 works. Like he was pretty caught for trophy was very cautious 00:11:53.300 --> 00:11:54.700 about it for him. 00:11:54.700 --> 00:11:57.300 He's being like we'll have to check in with medical doctor 00:11:57.300 --> 00:11:58.700 is pretty humble. 00:11:58.700 --> 00:12:14.500 I'm sorry. The number you said make lemon lemonade out of lemons. 00:12:14.500 --> 00:12:18.400 This is what I've been saying about this, 00:12:18.400 --> 00:12:22.100 you know that he is uniquely bad at this issue around this issue, 00:12:22.100 --> 00:12:26.200 but people have been calling in this is what scary people have 00:12:26.200 --> 00:12:28.900 been calling in to ask about that to see if it's doable. 00:12:31.400 --> 00:12:37.900 Sorry, I actually did assume that that it was done somewhat 00:12:37.900 --> 00:12:42.600 more ingest and then then they were reporting and then I played 00:12:42.600 --> 00:12:44.500 this I read it before I saw it. 00:12:44.500 --> 00:12:47.000 I played the tape was like, oh my God, 00:12:47.000 --> 00:12:48.700 he actually said that shit like, you know, 00:12:48.700 --> 00:12:53.500 he's insane and and it's unfortunate because there's there's 00:12:53.500 --> 00:12:54.900 multiple Dynamics going on. 00:12:54.900 --> 00:12:58.700 Your one is the depresses just completely gone Haywire with 00:12:58.700 --> 00:13:02.200 the story and they're they're reverse engineering everything. 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:04.800 So everything that the administration says there is in the Trump 00:13:04.800 --> 00:13:08.300 says is automatically wrong and there are all kinds of things are 00:13:08.300 --> 00:13:11.800 happening that are bad because of that but then she will 00:13:11.800 --> 00:13:15.500 say something like this and I just don't know how I don't know 00:13:15.500 --> 00:13:16.300 how you even cover it. 00:13:16.300 --> 00:13:21.900 I mean like it's really does come close to screaming fire in a 00:13:21.900 --> 00:13:25.500 crowded theater. Like it's it's it's I'm like his free-speech 00:13:25.500 --> 00:13:28.200 absolutist. Right? Like I'm one of those people who believes 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:30.300 that you know, you should never have any 00:13:31.400 --> 00:13:35.800 But that's on the border of a of the criminally irresponsible 00:13:35.800 --> 00:13:37.900 thing to say in public. 00:13:37.900 --> 00:13:39.500 That's as bad as Trump moment. 00:13:39.500 --> 00:13:46.700 If you had uniquely terrible he is at this and also I think 00:13:46.700 --> 00:13:51.000 it's an example of not that at all like the diner at him, 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:56.400 but how the media is constant kind of Relentless attacks 00:13:56.400 --> 00:13:58.500 on him, which it's okay to be relentless, 00:13:58.500 --> 00:14:01.900 but attack him on the right things because again what we see 00:14:01.900 --> 00:14:04.500 I think this entire time is that the things that should stand 00:14:04.500 --> 00:14:08.500 out as totally agree just totally unacceptable don't because 00:14:08.500 --> 00:14:11.800 they've been saying unprecedented existential threat about 00:14:11.800 --> 00:14:15.400 things that weren't that and I'm not even saying he's not an unprecedented 00:14:15.400 --> 00:14:18.300 existential threat. I'm just saying that he didn't, 00:14:18.300 --> 00:14:20.300 you know that the collusion and conspiracy stuff. 00:14:20.300 --> 00:14:25.400 They just blew their wad on that positive spin on it. 00:14:25.400 --> 00:14:26.700 He's trying to be positive. 00:14:31.300 --> 00:14:35.400 Is why are Is Molina what if what if we just you know instead 00:14:35.400 --> 00:14:37.800 of putting it on the outside of our bodies put it on the inside 00:14:37.800 --> 00:14:39.300 with that work to do like, you know, 00:14:39.300 --> 00:14:44.300 he was a rapper or something like that right rapper freestyle. 00:14:44.300 --> 00:14:49.200 He has really good owns like really good digs is he would win 00:14:49.200 --> 00:14:50.500 battles empty battles? 00:14:50.500 --> 00:14:58.700 No question. You can tell him to injecting. 00:14:58.700 --> 00:15:04.300 You know, my Lowered Expectations make me sit make me so impressed 00:15:04.300 --> 00:15:07.800 with Trump or just saying maybe that would work right as opposed 00:15:07.800 --> 00:15:11.500 to the truck that that I know and hate would actually say this 00:15:11.500 --> 00:15:22.600 is going to work this works and not surprisingly people have 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:26.600 been calling. There's been Poison Control Center called Spike 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:29.500 after Spike after he said that and Garrett Governor Larry Hogan, 00:15:29.500 --> 00:15:31.000 Baltimore 00:15:31.300 --> 00:15:34.400 Marilyn sorry, you know said one misinformation comes out. 00:15:34.400 --> 00:15:36.000 Are you just ate something that pops in your head? 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:38.400 It does send the wrong message and we have hundreds of calls 00:15:38.400 --> 00:15:41.400 coming to an emergency hotline for Health Department asking 00:15:41.400 --> 00:15:46.100 if it was right to ingest borax or alcohol cleaning products 00:15:46.100 --> 00:15:49.400 whether that was going to help them fight the virus that we had 00:15:49.400 --> 00:15:52.900 to put out that warning dad to put out a warning to make sure 00:15:52.900 --> 00:15:55.800 that people were not doing something like that which would 00:15:55.800 --> 00:15:59.600 kill people which again, I'm impressed that people called 00:15:59.600 --> 00:16:04.300 in to check RotoZip done it if I drink bleach what's eating 00:16:04.300 --> 00:16:06.900 bad going to happen like that's America is just awesome. 00:16:06.900 --> 00:16:10.400 So I think you know, what is bring out the best in our country 00:16:10.400 --> 00:16:14.500 it Spring Road caution and Trump caution and inquisitiveness 00:16:14.500 --> 00:16:20.600 and and grit and industriousness and you know just being very 00:16:20.600 --> 00:16:24.800 proactive like making that call reaching out and also another 00:16:24.800 --> 00:16:25.500 thing that happened. 00:16:25.500 --> 00:16:29.300 Is that horse The Washington Post the intelligence agencies 00:16:29.300 --> 00:16:31.100 warned presence of the bestest. 00:16:31.300 --> 00:16:34.900 Virus doesn't classified briefings january-february. 00:16:34.900 --> 00:16:38.600 The warnings came in the president's Daily Brief, 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:41.800 which Trump regular skip reading according to the post sources 00:16:41.800 --> 00:16:44.600 despite the warnings of run continued to downplay the severity 00:16:44.600 --> 00:16:48.000 of the threat into February and that's meat that's a democracy 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:51.800 now that I'm reading which again I think speaks to what's 00:16:51.800 --> 00:16:54.800 interesting is you met last week or the week before you you've been 00:16:54.800 --> 00:17:00.000 saying like Trump is as much to blame for this as as Bush 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:03.100 for 911 and I my my thing was like what he was to blame 00:17:03.100 --> 00:17:06.500 for that and some large part because of the presidential 00:17:06.500 --> 00:17:10.300 Daily Brief right with said Osama Bin Laden determined 00:17:10.300 --> 00:17:13.800 to attack the United States, which we can debate that I mean, 00:17:13.800 --> 00:17:16.600 I don't know maybe maybe they got like a thousand of those 00:17:16.600 --> 00:17:24.600 a day about other fundamentalist former allies of the end. 00:17:31.300 --> 00:17:33.300 Then summer I even like footnotes. 00:17:34.900 --> 00:17:37.800 This is probably a topic we should we should take up at a different 00:17:37.800 --> 00:17:39.600 time. But there's two things you're never won. 00:17:39.600 --> 00:17:42.400 The the whole thing about Trump skipping his presidential 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:45.800 Daily Briefing. I actually that's one of the things I like most 00:17:45.800 --> 00:17:48.800 about Donald Trump is that when he came into office all these 00:17:48.800 --> 00:17:52.100 intelligence Coons told him that he had to have a meeting 00:17:52.100 --> 00:17:54.300 with them every morning and be brief buy them and he's like 00:17:54.300 --> 00:17:55.900 now so I'll see you on the present and I'll do whatever 00:17:55.900 --> 00:18:00.100 I want and you know what that's it's important to put those 00:18:00.100 --> 00:18:03.500 people in their place and it's probably not necessary to have 00:18:03.500 --> 00:18:05.500 those people in his ear, you know, 00:18:05.500 --> 00:18:08.900 every single day for an hour an hour and a half and they leaked 00:18:08.900 --> 00:18:14.700 a story immediately which was insubordinate and wrong and those 00:18:14.700 --> 00:18:17.600 guys suck for that and the other end and the only thing I'll 00:18:17.600 --> 00:18:20.800 say about that as you go back and look in January and Trevor 00:18:20.800 --> 00:18:24.000 you'll find that most experts at the time. 00:18:24.000 --> 00:18:29.400 We're not most many were were telling reporters know this is going to 00:18:29.400 --> 00:18:30.700 be as bad as flu. 00:18:30.700 --> 00:18:32.800 You'll find a host of headlines about all of that. 00:18:32.800 --> 00:18:33.800 I wouldn't go through all that. 00:18:34.900 --> 00:18:40.500 Words are wrong so much more sympathetic to the idea that he didn't 00:18:40.500 --> 00:18:43.500 foresee. And you know it on Preston in the event that I am, 00:18:43.500 --> 00:18:48.900 you know that he's suggesting that we inject a carpet cleaner 00:18:48.900 --> 00:18:51.000 to get get past. 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:52.900 This isn't that terrible. 00:18:52.900 --> 00:18:58.100 So a new media Trope has appeared in the in the middle of this 00:18:58.100 --> 00:19:03.500 crisis, which is we're reporting on a legitimate story, 00:19:03.500 --> 00:19:09.800 which is that the meat processing plants have become places 00:19:09.800 --> 00:19:13.300 where there's we've seen a lot of people get infected from the 00:19:13.300 --> 00:19:15.500 disease probably just keeping good people are working in very 00:19:15.500 --> 00:19:22.300 close quarters, but it's become a new a new common mediaskare 00:19:22.300 --> 00:19:25.300 story to the show is terrible pictures of meat, 00:19:25.300 --> 00:19:31.900 right? So, I think it's been a factor in American life forever, 00:19:31.900 --> 00:19:34.600 which is that we live in this completely. 00:19:34.800 --> 00:19:37.500 Dusting system where there are these massive should have pig 00:19:37.500 --> 00:19:40.400 Auschwitz facilities and I've been in some of these places 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:42.900 are just horrifying right but we don't, 00:19:42.900 --> 00:19:44.900 you know, we didn't ignore it wouldn't pay any attention 00:19:44.900 --> 00:19:49.500 to that until now when we have a few we have a few sick 00:19:49.500 --> 00:19:52.700 workers now suddenly, there's all this questioning a is it a good 00:19:52.700 --> 00:19:58.500 thing to be having these horrific disgusting facilities 00:19:58.500 --> 00:20:04.100 in the living this way and we're just seen one horrifying 00:20:04.100 --> 00:20:08.600 to a picture after another of what these with these places 00:20:08.600 --> 00:20:11.400 look like and then if we could just see a couple of those so 00:20:11.400 --> 00:20:14.300 multi multinational Meat Farms could be making us sick. 00:20:14.300 --> 00:20:18.800 So this is a story in the American conservative and the photo 00:20:18.800 --> 00:20:21.900 comes from the Washington Post and what their what they're 00:20:21.900 --> 00:20:24.300 showing is pictures of the Earth are things called Castle 00:20:24.300 --> 00:20:26.400 is which are concentrated animal feeding operations, 00:20:26.400 --> 00:20:30.100 and I've actually taken a couple of stores and places like this 00:20:30.100 --> 00:20:33.400 are mostly talking about about it with pigs, 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:34.500 but I've seen it all 00:20:34.800 --> 00:20:40.200 What's other animals factory-style slaughterhouses 00:20:40.200 --> 00:20:42.400 and they're the most horrifying things you could possibly 00:20:42.400 --> 00:20:46.000 imagine like if you if you ever go in it and now all the sudden 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:50.300 you're seeing the base in in the Press about wow, 00:20:50.300 --> 00:20:52.700 maybe maybe we shouldn't have been living this way all this 00:20:52.700 --> 00:20:56.200 time and we're seeing one picture of another after another 00:20:56.200 --> 00:21:03.600 like this play in that in that photo of a disgusting picture 00:21:03.600 --> 00:21:10.000 of a conveyor belt of of just random Pig body parts and people, 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:15.700 you know, most of the Mask but apparently some of them aren't 00:21:15.700 --> 00:21:24.200 in some of these environments and these are fixed gun pictures. 00:21:24.200 --> 00:21:25.600 If we looked at them every single day. 00:21:25.600 --> 00:21:33.700 No one ever meet meet again, it's just it's not the conditions 00:21:33.700 --> 00:21:34.000 in the factories. 00:21:34.800 --> 00:21:38.300 The story the pictures are all directed at the meat which is an 00:21:38.300 --> 00:21:41.200 unchanged facet of our culture. 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:46.400 Right but we're not discussing the virus specific aspect of the 00:21:46.400 --> 00:21:54.500 story. Everybody's supposed to be scared of pictures of me earlier, 00:21:54.500 --> 00:22:00.000 but this could be a good thing. 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:02.900 I mean, I actually think this is one of the examples of how we 00:22:02.900 --> 00:22:06.300 could turn a crisis in to have something to write because 00:22:06.300 --> 00:22:09.900 I think that it is time for us to take on or look at 00:22:09.900 --> 00:22:14.000 the disgusting meat industry and we should have on our good 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:19.400 friend Glenn Greenwald, but I mean, I love him that's why I don't 00:22:19.400 --> 00:22:20.400 I don't eat read me. 00:22:20.400 --> 00:22:23.800 I don't eat pork or beef or because I love pig. 00:22:23.800 --> 00:22:24.700 That's what started it. 00:22:24.700 --> 00:22:27.800 They're smart. They're cute hypoallergenic and this is just 00:22:27.800 --> 00:22:31.400 awful and I'm not like you don't have to be vegan to want there 00:22:31.400 --> 00:22:33.100 to be a human Humane Animal. 00:22:33.100 --> 00:22:34.600 May I don't know what the word. 00:22:34.900 --> 00:22:38.600 Humane way of killing animals, even if you know what I mean, 00:22:38.600 --> 00:22:41.100 like, I think we probably shouldn't be killing them or we should 00:22:41.100 --> 00:22:45.900 do it like farm-to-table way, but this is disgusting and unjustifiable 00:22:45.900 --> 00:22:51.600 and just cruel from an environmental standpoint that everybody 00:22:51.600 --> 00:22:55.800 would tell you that if you have Family Farms that are taken care 00:22:55.800 --> 00:22:57.000 of a hundred pigs at a time, 00:22:57.000 --> 00:23:00.200 but that's way less dangerous to the environment than having 00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:04.400 these massive slaughter house is worth as a waste of thousands 00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:07.500 and thousands of pigs being dumped in this Lagoon at spill 00:23:07.500 --> 00:23:08.700 out and into the environment. 00:23:08.700 --> 00:23:11.700 Right, but I guess the point of trying to make sure is a little 00:23:11.700 --> 00:23:18.000 bit subtle which is that a lot of the news agencies are are trying 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:21.900 to scare the crap out of us with every aspect of of the coronavirus 00:23:21.900 --> 00:23:26.300 story right at the end and then so and so what they're doing 00:23:26.300 --> 00:23:29.400 is there they're taking pictures or something that was always 00:23:29.400 --> 00:23:32.300 horrifying that was always part of our lives and they're 00:23:32.300 --> 00:23:33.400 implying that it's 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:38.900 That it's somehow part of this new reality that were in where 00:23:38.900 --> 00:23:41.500 is it's not it's just something that we've always been part. 00:23:41.500 --> 00:23:42.700 No, I agree with you that I didn't know. 00:23:42.700 --> 00:23:45.400 I've been a vegetarian like a various points in my life. 00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:49.500 I'm not one now, but it's I do think we need to change and 00:23:49.500 --> 00:23:53.500 I think he's lived the lagoons are totally public health risk. 00:23:53.500 --> 00:23:57.100 What what they're doing in the Press with with with these images 00:23:57.100 --> 00:24:01.300 is it is manipulative in a way that it at the end. 00:24:01.300 --> 00:24:03.600 It's the political in a weird way to like, 00:24:03.600 --> 00:24:06.100 I'm not really sure what they're up to but what do we have for 00:24:06.100 --> 00:24:12.500 isn't that weird about to Blasio viewers and listeners 00:24:12.500 --> 00:24:14.800 may remember that couple weeks ago. 00:24:14.800 --> 00:24:18.000 I think my is not weirder than that terrible was a bad hoes 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:21.900 Zoom meetings were being interrupted by obscenities and people 00:24:21.900 --> 00:24:23.100 with swastika tattoos. 00:24:23.100 --> 00:24:25.000 And this is kind of that equivalents, 00:24:25.000 --> 00:24:26.400 but in the form of a hotline, 00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:28.000 if we could just play the video down, 00:24:28.000 --> 00:24:31.100 please at the top of this story when you see your crowd when 00:24:31.100 --> 00:24:33.800 you see a line that's not this is when you see your super, 00:24:33.900 --> 00:24:35.600 It's too crowded anything. 00:24:35.600 --> 00:24:38.700 You can report it right away so we can get help there to fix 00:24:38.700 --> 00:24:39.200 the problem. 00:24:41.500 --> 00:24:45.200 Slammed with obscenities angry memes and more for instance. 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:48.600 There's a someone tweeted start flooding their reporting 00:24:48.600 --> 00:24:51.400 text number with these pics and summarize. 00:24:51.400 --> 00:24:55.100 We will fight this tyrannical ovary and then the responses 00:24:55.100 --> 00:24:57.000 hello and thank you for texting nyc311. 00:24:57.000 --> 00:24:58.900 We're here to help but if this is an emergency, 00:24:58.900 --> 00:25:01.900 please call nine-one-one a representative will be with you soon. 00:25:01.900 --> 00:25:05.400 So I think it's kind of a funny response to we will fight this 00:25:05.400 --> 00:25:12.900 and then the response to that text from the nyc311 was then 00:25:12.900 --> 00:25:18.100 fuck you and then we had another tweet that said don't be a Karen 00:25:18.100 --> 00:25:21.500 Saturday thoughts. Here's the number to report people for fishing 00:25:21.500 --> 00:25:23.500 or enjoying the outdoors 1-800. 00:25:23.500 --> 00:25:28.300 I'm a Nazi and then someone else had eat a bag of dicks and 00:25:28.300 --> 00:25:32.700 NYPD Source said that one also receive real dick. 00:25:32.700 --> 00:25:37.000 So it's basically everything we anticipated or we were warned 00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:38.000 about with the zoom called. 00:25:41.500 --> 00:25:43.400 I mean, he's he's a walking punchline. 00:25:43.400 --> 00:25:45.300 This guy I mean to get personal he's the only politician 00:25:45.300 --> 00:25:47.500 is ever killed the groundhog on Groundhog Day, 00:25:47.500 --> 00:25:52.700 right? It's also it's just so New York like your ass for people 00:25:52.700 --> 00:25:55.900 for people to listen to chime in on you know, 00:25:55.900 --> 00:25:58.300 if you see something say something right. 00:25:58.300 --> 00:26:05.500 Just everything to send dick pics like, 00:26:05.500 --> 00:26:17.900 you know, big backpack in the back in the Soviet days in the 00:26:17.900 --> 00:26:21.200 Soviet Citizen and it's now become like a thing like it's not 00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:24.900 doing such a snitch is it is the new is the new catchword 00:26:24.900 --> 00:26:26.800 of of of code are America. 00:26:26.800 --> 00:26:29.100 So I said just one one little topic. 00:26:29.100 --> 00:26:30.100 I'm going to write about this week. 00:26:30.100 --> 00:26:34.300 So I thought we could get into the Atlantic magazine did the 00:26:34.300 --> 00:26:38.000 story this weekend and if we could just look at the headline 00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:41.000 from this says internet speech is the headline in the 00:26:41.500 --> 00:26:46.600 And it's it's a it's a co-author Peace by a pair of professors 00:26:46.600 --> 00:26:50.000 one onion Jack Goldsmith from Harvard Law and another one and 00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:54.100 routine woods from the University of Arizona another lawyer 00:26:54.100 --> 00:26:56.500 internet speech will never go back to normal. 00:26:56.500 --> 00:26:59.100 And then the subhead is in the debate over Freedom versus 00:26:59.100 --> 00:27:00.600 control of the global Network. 00:27:00.600 --> 00:27:06.700 China was largely correct and the US was wrong now in the body of 00:27:06.700 --> 00:27:13.000 the keys essentially what this article argues is that the 00:27:13.000 --> 00:27:16.200 originally the internet was a tool of democratization 00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:18.900 write that because it was free. 00:27:18.900 --> 00:27:20.100 It was difficult to manage. 00:27:20.100 --> 00:27:24.300 We encourage it spread everywhere because it was it allowed 00:27:24.300 --> 00:27:27.300 people to speak to each other and we saw that is a good thing 00:27:27.300 --> 00:27:28.900 generally around the world. 00:27:28.900 --> 00:27:33.900 But later what we found is that countries like China or Innovative 00:27:33.900 --> 00:27:37.100 and being able to control the internet and control messaging 00:27:37.100 --> 00:27:41.200 and what these guys are saying is if that's the right thing. 00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:42.700 In this is it hurts. 00:27:42.700 --> 00:27:45.500 Like there's a passage from the from the peace in the great 00:27:45.500 --> 00:27:48.400 debate of the past two decades about Freedom versus control 00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:48.800 in the network. 00:27:48.800 --> 00:27:51.800 China was largely right in the United States was largely 00:27:51.800 --> 00:27:55.300 wrong significant monitoring and speech control are inevitable 00:27:55.300 --> 00:27:59.200 components of a mature and flourishing internet governments 00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:02.100 must play a large role in these practices to ensure that the 00:28:02.100 --> 00:28:05.400 internet is compatible with society's norms and values, 00:28:05.400 --> 00:28:11.000 right? And so this is the beginning of this crisis that I was 00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:13.200 what I was worried about where this was where this was going 00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:18.300 to go and and this is one of the things that we're already 00:28:18.300 --> 00:28:23.300 seeing that there's there's being there's been a rush to start 00:28:23.300 --> 00:28:26.900 using these tools we've seen for years now that they've they've 00:28:26.900 --> 00:28:31.000 been ramping up this idea that the the big platforms like Google 00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:35.400 and Facebook and Twitter are cooperating with the government 00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:40.100 somewhat in in eliminating inauthentic content, right and now 00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:45.900 We're seeing a thing where you know the companies like app Apple 00:28:45.900 --> 00:28:49.500 and Google are at this unprecedented partnership to Stamp Out 00:28:49.500 --> 00:28:58.700 content that they believe is goes contrary to at El Fenix significant 00:28:58.700 --> 00:29:09.000 significant any practices to ensure that the internet is compatible 00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:10.100 with the society's norms and values. 00:29:10.100 --> 00:29:12.100 What's interesting about that as you know, 00:29:12.100 --> 00:29:15.500 sometimes I joke that like like Donald Trump and Chomsky 00:29:15.500 --> 00:29:18.300 say the same things but they're they're wet. 00:29:18.300 --> 00:29:19.900 They're framing of it is totally different. 00:29:19.900 --> 00:29:22.900 Like when when Trump said like we're not going to do anything 00:29:22.900 --> 00:29:27.100 about Saudi Arabia because Kelly khashoggi because they just 00:29:27.100 --> 00:29:28.300 bought a lot of Arms from us. 00:29:28.300 --> 00:29:30.000 Like, why would we do anything else? 00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:37.000 He would also say like for the reason that but in this case, 00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:39.400 it's the same thing because it's like you Matt Taibbi. 00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:41.200 Could I could see you right in the center? 00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:44.900 Significant monitoring and speed control are an inevitable 00:29:44.900 --> 00:29:49.600 are inevitable components of a instead of mature and flourishing 00:29:49.600 --> 00:29:55.700 internet what like over government overreach and over the internet 00:29:55.700 --> 00:29:59.400 and governments must not play a large role in these practices 00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:02.800 to ensure that the Athena and I could see you saying like governments 00:30:02.800 --> 00:30:07.000 play a large role in these practices precisely to make the internet 00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:14.900 compatible with norms and values you would be lamenting 00:30:14.900 --> 00:30:19.100 or or warning about this and freezing it and that's just a major 00:30:19.100 --> 00:30:22.300 reason why he can't have algorithmic control of the the Prescott 00:30:22.300 --> 00:30:26.300 figure that confuse things and and people are the people who 00:30:26.300 --> 00:30:28.500 are in charge with reviewing all that stuff. They're 00:30:28.500 --> 00:30:32.200 just going to be overwhelmed by the logistical 00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:35.300 challenges trying to sort out who's saying what and what the 00:30:35.300 --> 00:30:36.400 meanings of things are. 00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:40.100 But the did the remarkable thing about this and then if we could 00:30:40.100 --> 00:30:41.100 look at this story, 00:30:41.500 --> 00:30:46.200 That came out this week CNN business to the story The Fox News 00:30:46.200 --> 00:30:48.200 MSNBC mirror Chris Hayes. 00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:51.200 The Bronx video is Tucker Carlson Hypes it what you're talking 00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:54.400 about is a pair of doctors in Bakersfield, 00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:58.000 California, Dan Ericsson and arts in Massac. 00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:03.100 He's probably pronouncing my name correctly, but they did a video 00:31:03.100 --> 00:31:07.700 and essentially they were signing a bunch of Statistics 00:31:07.700 --> 00:31:11.200 claiming that the lithology of this this virus is less than 00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:16.700 what we thought and that is closer to the flu then and there are 00:31:16.700 --> 00:31:20.800 there arguing that perhaps the lockdowns aren't necessary. 00:31:20.800 --> 00:31:23.800 I like I don't think I'm not sure that I agree with that. 00:31:23.800 --> 00:31:25.500 I'm certainly staying inside my house. 00:31:25.500 --> 00:31:29.000 I'm unfollowing a lockdown but they took this off YouTube 00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:33.000 They just they remove this because it violated their Community 00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:36.000 standards and then people like Chris Hayes isn't somebody 00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:39.500 like I normally like he goes on and he goes on this whole rant 00:31:39.500 --> 00:31:39.600 about 00:31:41.500 --> 00:31:44.400 Irish roosters and how they want to read what they want to end the 00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:47.800 lockdowns prematurely and but you can't do this. 00:31:47.800 --> 00:31:50.000 This is this is this is why this is so dangerous. 00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:54.200 If you go back to the early January look at the headlines 00:31:54.200 --> 00:31:56.400 from early January about what happened. 00:31:56.400 --> 00:31:58.900 What what people were saying experts are saying about the virus 00:31:58.900 --> 00:32:01.600 just look at the Atlantic itself. 00:32:01.600 --> 00:32:05.500 You're likely to get coronavirus most cases are not life-threatening, 00:32:05.500 --> 00:32:09.000 which is also what makes viruses store store challenge 00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:11.700 to contain Washington Post get a grip America. 00:32:11.700 --> 00:32:16.400 The flu is a much bigger threat than coronavirus for now AP is the 00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:20.700 new virus more deadly flu, not exactly and your support of 00:32:20.700 --> 00:32:22.200 trying to make journalists don't know anything. 00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:23.000 We are ignorant. 00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:30.400 That's the whole point of our subject matter experts to tell 00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:34.100 us what's going on, but there's groupthink in the industries 00:32:34.100 --> 00:32:37.900 that we serve a right and so we're part of our job is to 00:32:37.900 --> 00:32:40.900 recognize that when that's happening and the only way we can 00:32:40.900 --> 00:32:41.200 do that. 00:32:41.500 --> 00:32:44.500 If we hear everything that's going on if we if we're able to hear 00:32:44.500 --> 00:32:45.700 all the different points of you. 00:32:45.700 --> 00:32:49.000 Sometimes we got to interview that those five or six people 00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:52.200 who are saying the different thing right and and check out if 00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:52.900 they're right or wrong. 00:32:52.900 --> 00:32:55.400 Like I know this from covering the financial crisis. 00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:59.000 Everybody was saying all this wasn't criminality to cause this 00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:01.700 this was, you know, like a weather event they over invested 00:33:01.700 --> 00:33:04.200 in mortgages and that's why things went wrong. 00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:06.800 To be what happens. 00:33:06.800 --> 00:33:10.100 If you have to have everybody visible and have to have all these 00:33:10.100 --> 00:33:14.000 different kinds of ideas out there an order for us to investigate. 00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:15.500 What's true and what's not true. 00:33:15.500 --> 00:33:20.000 And that's you seen as I as we saw headlines the views of experts 00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:24.800 change so bad if we're if we're eliminating speech based on what 00:33:24.800 --> 00:33:28.800 experts are saying right now almost almost by definition. 00:33:28.800 --> 00:33:32.800 We're going to end up excluding developments. 00:33:41.500 --> 00:33:46.900 Moment 4 for the press in this country because what people 00:33:46.900 --> 00:33:48.600 are going to do with this disease. 00:33:48.600 --> 00:33:54.700 Is there going to say OK times over for nice if we can't afford 00:33:54.700 --> 00:33:56.700 any of that civil liberties stuff right now, 00:33:56.700 --> 00:34:00.600 it's just not and again, I know I'd be the point about Trump's 00:34:00.600 --> 00:34:02.300 the saying fire in a crowded theater and everything, 00:34:02.300 --> 00:34:08.000 but the bar has to be like extraordinarily High and the people 00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:12.100 having to the internet Platforms in charge of what information 00:34:12.100 --> 00:34:15.300 we do and do not say it's it's going to kill us a lot 00:34:15.300 --> 00:34:19.100 faster than than any of this is what I think is interesting 00:34:19.100 --> 00:34:22.200 about this point is I feel like even people who aren't particularly 00:34:22.200 --> 00:34:25.800 Pro civil liberties would be worried by this potentially 00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:29.600 because it does filter out the like I understand there are people 00:34:29.600 --> 00:34:33.700 who would say if something is going to result in the deaths of 00:34:33.700 --> 00:34:36.600 people we should not let that be said and you and I I 00:34:36.600 --> 00:34:40.100 mean whether there was a huge debate about that morally and ethically 00:34:40.100 --> 00:34:41.000 right, but what's interesting 00:34:41.500 --> 00:34:45.100 This thing is that even if Public Safety is the number one concern 00:34:45.100 --> 00:34:49.100 for get the civil liberties day like as you said multiple. 00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:53.300 Ideas have to be aired in order to be taken seriously. 00:34:53.300 --> 00:34:56.500 So even within that kind of moral framework, 00:34:56.500 --> 00:34:58.100 even if you don't believe in in, 00:34:58.100 --> 00:35:02.500 you know, freedom of speech it is ironic that this could possibly 00:35:02.500 --> 00:35:09.100 had the inverse effect by not allowing add people thinking 00:35:09.100 --> 00:35:12.900 outside the box to share those views play Devil's Advocate 00:35:12.900 --> 00:35:14.900 though against your point earlier. 00:35:14.900 --> 00:35:18.000 I mean, I do agree with you in terms of new ideas and Innovation, 00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:21.000 but I think that people could stay will know that's what the 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:25.400 experts. Now and precisely because we no longer think that that's 00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:28.900 why we have to have some kind of what I mean. 00:35:28.900 --> 00:35:30.800 Like, I'm not I'm not saying I agree with that position, 00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:33.300 but I think I wanted to put it there because I think it's it 00:35:33.300 --> 00:35:35.800 something like how would you put back on that? I 00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:39.400 don't think it's impossible to but I don't know if there's 00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:43.200 a thing the animating idea behind this whole concept that China 00:35:43.200 --> 00:35:47.000 has it right and we had it wrong and we can't allow unfettered 00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:50.100 dialogue. Is that weird? 00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:53.800 Inevitably what's going to happen is you going to have drift 00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:58.200 right? So we saw this with the Alex Jones thing when they took 00:35:58.200 --> 00:36:02.000 Alex Jones off the internet, like I didn't I didn't like that. 00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:04.800 I don't like Alex Jones but I but I didn't I didn't like that 00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:07.800 because what's going to end up happening is someone's going 00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:08.300 to say, okay. 00:36:08.300 --> 00:36:10.900 Well if we took Alex Jones out there and it will what the how 00:36:10.900 --> 00:36:13.800 is how is Ben Shapiro so different from Alex Jones, 00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:16.300 right? And then it's going to be how is so and so so different 00:36:16.300 --> 00:36:21.600 now she'll probably exactly and if so, 00:36:21.600 --> 00:36:28.400 what would these things always expand if I did the wrong there, 00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:34.300 and that's a major feature of any experienced journalist 00:36:34.300 --> 00:36:38.600 will tell you this is a huge part of our job is to try to 00:36:38.600 --> 00:36:44.800 figure out when when groupthink is going on in like if you 00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:48.500 were to ask people in the in Washington, 00:36:48.500 --> 00:36:49.600 do we need to be 00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:54.200 I need to have 400 bases in the Middle East like why do we 00:36:54.200 --> 00:36:55.000 why do we need that? 00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:59.900 98% of the people who call who are employed who work in that 00:36:59.900 --> 00:37:00.700 field are going to tell you. 00:37:00.700 --> 00:37:04.300 Yes, right eye and those people are wrong. 00:37:04.300 --> 00:37:13.800 You can't have a situation where the Vanguard of experts 00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:14.400 were telling us. 00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:18.600 We're telling us what is it is incorrect because because 00:37:18.600 --> 00:37:20.900 a the wrong and be what they're going to do. 00:37:20.900 --> 00:37:23.200 Is there going to start expanding the definition of what's 00:37:23.200 --> 00:37:26.800 dangerous is for sure for sure a couple of doctors giving 00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:29.000 a press conference in California. 00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:30.500 That's not life-threatening. 00:37:30.500 --> 00:37:32.900 Like people are not going to go off in like, 00:37:32.900 --> 00:37:37.200 you know, start mainlining coronavirus because a couple of cuz 00:37:37.200 --> 00:37:41.800 it couple of doctors gave a presentation being very responsible 00:37:41.800 --> 00:37:43.900 about Trump's Lisha. 00:37:43.900 --> 00:37:52.600 Jimmy Dore is Had nothing to do with Alex Jones Ben Shapiro, 00:37:52.600 --> 00:37:56.600 but but I use example precisely because people will seek to compare 00:37:56.600 --> 00:37:58.900 them by calling him. 00:37:58.900 --> 00:38:02.600 So that's another example of the danger of letting it happen 00:38:02.600 --> 00:38:06.500 because I think it you know, if I'd Salon in standard the definition 00:38:06.500 --> 00:38:14.500 to be wiping out shows on the on the right and on the left. 00:38:14.500 --> 00:38:19.700 It becomes very Loosely applied. 00:38:19.700 --> 00:38:23.300 And and the thing that I really did really drives me nuts about 00:38:23.300 --> 00:38:27.800 this is it is it is again the lack of humility by by reporters. 00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:31.200 They're all jumping on this idea that we have to listen to The 00:38:31.200 --> 00:38:35.500 Experts. There were these kind of word is the full weight 00:38:35.500 --> 00:38:38.900 of our approval or disapproval with what we're going to do everything 00:38:38.900 --> 00:38:42.500 to stay. Where is traditionally what wood was depressed 00:38:42.500 --> 00:38:44.600 is we stepped back and said, yeah, 00:38:44.600 --> 00:38:50.900 we're going to check it all out right and let's not take Position 00:38:50.900 --> 00:38:52.400 really want one way or the other it right, 00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:54.100 but that's not what's going on with this. 00:38:54.100 --> 00:38:56.300 There's just this anger and approbation. 00:38:56.300 --> 00:38:58.600 I think a lot of again, I think a lot of it has to 00:38:58.600 --> 00:38:59.200 do with Trump. 00:38:59.200 --> 00:39:03.100 It's just it's just people gotten mixed up in the scientific 00:39:03.100 --> 00:39:16.600 debate versus the Trump versus American princess people who say 00:39:16.600 --> 00:39:20.600 anything critical of Israel or anyting pro-palestinian 00:39:20.600 --> 00:39:24.700 and I think that a lot of the people who support this kind of 00:39:24.700 --> 00:39:27.900 censorship are actually people who are on the right side of that 00:39:27.900 --> 00:39:31.000 issue and they should think about that because again, 00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:35.700 the people are saying the Jews run the media without saying 00:39:35.700 --> 00:39:38.100 we run the media there, but I do think that's a really important 00:39:38.100 --> 00:39:42.000 thing is that people need to check in figure out or see how they're 00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:45.300 on politics drive with the censorship things because it's not 00:39:45.300 --> 00:39:48.500 just going to be the people who we think of as racist and toxic 00:39:48.500 --> 00:39:53.600 inoffensive. It's going to be Who are you know how problematic 00:39:53.600 --> 00:40:01.800 use of cording to you know a pack what happens in these situations? 00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:04.700 Is that once once the president is that is established 00:40:04.700 --> 00:40:08.000 that we can just sit or eliminate certain kinds of speech 00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:12.300 because we deem it threatening or dangerous is that it inevitably 00:40:12.300 --> 00:40:15.800 starts being applied to things that you wouldn't agree with 00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:20.300 that you would never let a friend and this this crisis is opening a 00:40:20.300 --> 00:40:24.500 door for some pretty radical changes in American societies. 00:40:24.500 --> 00:40:26.300 And you know, I've written a lot about the financial stuff. 00:40:26.300 --> 00:40:28.400 But this is this is this is scary to 00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:39.800 Especially with train. 00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:42.600 I mean a lot of discourse about the u.s. 00:40:42.600 --> 00:40:45.200 Versus China is that we have freedoms like that. 00:40:45.200 --> 00:40:46.000 Ali it, right. 00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:50.200 So it's kind of ironic that people are saying now are norms 00:40:50.200 --> 00:40:54.700 and values include, you know cracking down on dissent door on 00:40:54.700 --> 00:41:03.100 you know, exactly made during the okay. 00:41:03.100 --> 00:41:03.900 Well, this is too dangerous. 00:41:03.900 --> 00:41:06.100 We have to abandon the, you know, 00:41:06.100 --> 00:41:09.500 all of our prohibitions Against torture, you know against 00:41:09.500 --> 00:41:11.900 indefinite detention and it gets all these things because 00:41:11.900 --> 00:41:13.900 we we have to win this war, 00:41:13.900 --> 00:41:19.200 but that was what gave us the moral of Heart Like if you eliminate 00:41:19.200 --> 00:41:22.200 what's different between your society and he's other societies 00:41:22.200 --> 00:41:25.800 that you're claiming or undemocratic then what's the point 00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:29.500 and now if we're going to if we're going to become China in the 00:41:29.500 --> 00:41:32.600 service of of what exactly like, I'm not sure what what what 00:41:32.600 --> 00:41:33.700 the what the endgame 00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:42.800 Editorials by I think they would have to say that this is a conflicting 00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:45.400 nor that we have conflicting norms and values, 00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:48.900 right? They should at least say where it where it while we have 00:41:48.900 --> 00:41:52.300 freedom and Free Press and dissent that's an American value, 00:41:52.300 --> 00:41:55.300 but unfortunately so is protecting citizens. 00:41:55.300 --> 00:42:16.300 I pulled it think you can do a lot of criticism the China with 00:42:16.300 --> 00:42:21.600 what would normally be getting for it's just awful approach 00:42:21.600 --> 00:42:24.900 to sit to Human Rights political Freedom. 00:42:24.900 --> 00:42:29.200 All of that has been muted by our economic interests in that 00:42:29.200 --> 00:42:35.300 country. So if if you know, I grew up in before you when the 00:42:35.300 --> 00:42:37.900 Soviet Union was Justice Limitless evil. 00:42:38.300 --> 00:42:42.100 Enemy, that was symbolized by the unfeeling even Drago in Rocky 00:42:42.100 --> 00:42:46.000 4. Right? And the reason for that is used to do a lot of business 00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:54.400 with the money was the financial interest was in opposing 00:42:54.400 --> 00:43:07.400 with the Relentless blaming of China for this virus sent in the 00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:10.300 way that the right with right-wing is doing but what on the on 00:43:10.300 --> 00:43:13.400 the freedom side on the political Street inside the any suggestion 00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:14.400 that we should move in that direction. 00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:20.200 I wasn't yeah, I think it's funny is this this show that such 00:43:20.200 --> 00:43:24.800 a theme in the show is like intention and I do think that they're 00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:26.200 both of those things happen. 00:43:26.200 --> 00:43:30.200 Like there is definitely a whitewashing of China of the the Chinese 00:43:30.200 --> 00:43:32.900 government, but then there's also like selective outrage 00:43:32.900 --> 00:43:38.000 in the other direction that we see from like at least return 00:43:38.300 --> 00:43:42.300 Play from from certain people who act as if they're you know, 00:43:42.300 --> 00:43:43.300 good guys and bad guys. 00:43:43.300 --> 00:43:46.400 And I think of people like who talked about Israel as if they're 00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:49.400 a beacon of a Bastion of democracy in China, 00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:54.300 like it's this, you know this dystopic country, 00:43:54.300 --> 00:43:55.200 which you could even say it. 00:43:55.200 --> 00:43:59.400 Is that the government but there is a lack of consistency 00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:06.100 my secret worry about China always is that China is the model 00:44:06.100 --> 00:44:08.100 that Corporate America likes? 00:44:08.100 --> 00:44:16.800 Okay it is it is a it is a capitalist Paradise because it's 00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:20.800 essentially state-sponsored private Enterprise are all the profits 00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:22.500 are private eyes than the know. 00:44:22.500 --> 00:44:24.000 The losses are socialized. 00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:25.500 The labor force has no rights. 00:44:25.500 --> 00:44:27.600 There's no political Freedom others. 00:44:27.600 --> 00:44:28.400 No speech freedom. 00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:34.200 There's absolute control of the internet and there's like who 00:44:34.200 --> 00:44:35.300 I think you would like that model, 00:44:35.300 --> 00:44:37.900 you know, and I think that's an extreme way of looking at it. 00:44:38.300 --> 00:44:44.700 But this is this is an indication that I like we're certain 00:44:44.700 --> 00:44:47.300 parts of the reserve until I can see in this country. 00:44:47.300 --> 00:44:50.900 That's that wear their heads are at so it's just something to 00:44:50.900 --> 00:44:53.100 keep an eye on so we have a little bit more coming up. 00:44:53.100 --> 00:44:55.300 Do you want to talk about who our next guest is going to be 00:44:55.300 --> 00:45:04.200 really great. She just she's Kick-Ass. 00:45:04.200 --> 00:45:09.500 She's outspoken on so many issues including Palestine. 00:45:09.500 --> 00:45:14.600 She is housing American but including immigration including 00:45:14.600 --> 00:45:18.700 the environment. She's just she's a member of the squad the so-called 00:45:18.700 --> 00:45:22.500 Squad and it will look so let's go to that conversation 00:45:22.500 --> 00:45:22.900 right now. 00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:29.900 Welcome. Thank you so much for talking to us congresswoman 00:45:29.900 --> 00:45:31.800 member of Congress Rashida tlaib. 00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:38.200 We're so excited to have you on Monday. 00:45:38.200 --> 00:45:39.300 Tell us about the briefing. 00:45:39.300 --> 00:45:47.000 So we are really trying to come together on exposing some of the 00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:50.600 you know, I guess broken systems and things that we have to do 00:45:50.600 --> 00:45:52.600 to combat, you know. 00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:28.200 Are protected as well and you know, 00:46:28.200 --> 00:46:31.100 there's so many of these great bold again and dress-up ideas 00:46:31.100 --> 00:46:34.900 that you know, many folks both sides the owl cross the country 00:46:34.900 --> 00:46:38.300 outside of Congress have been really supportive of ideas. 00:46:38.300 --> 00:46:42.800 You're going to have regular briefings on the on the internet. 00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:45.100 Basically that are going to cover each one of these specifics 00:46:45.100 --> 00:46:48.300 are on the ground topics how people are coping with the with the 00:46:48.300 --> 00:46:50.800 disaster. What's what is it isn't a problem. 00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:52.800 I know you've talked a lot about things like, 00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:56.000 you know people being able to afford their water bills. 00:46:56.000 --> 00:46:57.900 Is it going to be divided up by topic? 00:46:57.900 --> 00:47:03.300 Like how is it going to work a lot of my colleagues and what 00:47:03.300 --> 00:47:04.300 they've been pushing for? 00:47:04.300 --> 00:47:06.800 You know, I've been pushing water is a human right as you probably 00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:10.600 know if thousands of folks right now and in Detroit and even 00:47:10.600 --> 00:47:13.400 influence in other areas around Michigan that don't have access 00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:16.800 to water right now during the pandemic where were telling 00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:20.600 people to wash their hands 10 times a day are you know don't 00:47:20.600 --> 00:47:21.500 have access to water. 00:47:21.500 --> 00:47:24.200 And so we really pushing forward and got a number by calling 00:47:24.200 --> 00:47:25.600 to support that but yeah, yeah. 00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:30.500 Really a lot of these great again bold ideas around addressing 00:47:30.500 --> 00:47:34.300 again the economic divide the broken systems structural 00:47:34.300 --> 00:47:39.100 racism. We're hoping to really try to deeper dive instead 00:47:39.100 --> 00:47:41.900 of just kind of the headlines that folks will read the picking 00:47:41.900 --> 00:47:45.500 a deeper dive of what actually we're trying to change in a lot 00:47:45.500 --> 00:47:47.900 of its structural change and water shut-off. 00:47:47.900 --> 00:47:50.800 People don't understand is didn't just come about this is something 00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:53.800 that's been tackling 15 million people across the nation are 00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:59.800 impacted by what are water shut off and we see one of 20 Americans 00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:01.800 that are impacted by some sort of water shut-off. 00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:08.400 So yeah, it's absolutely critical importance of the rescue, 00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:13.500 you know, what with the massive program of fed purchasing 00:48:13.500 --> 00:48:17.400 the reason why couldn't they have also done something with a moratorium 00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:18.400 on shut offs. 00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:23.900 Let's what's in a moratorium people being evicted. 00:48:23.900 --> 00:48:25.600 I mean they did they do that for 00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:29.300 Types of people if you have an agency back mortgage, 00:48:29.300 --> 00:48:32.600 but it seems like they could have done immediately with one stroke 00:48:32.600 --> 00:48:36.800 things that had a dramatic impact on people who are Adam at the 00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:39.600 Forefront of of this problem absolute, you know, 00:48:39.600 --> 00:48:43.000 you you get the sense of urgency out there and I think it's just 00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:45.500 us disconnect with a lot of my colleagues and folks that are 00:48:45.500 --> 00:48:47.900 actually you know in the back room making these decisions 00:48:47.900 --> 00:48:52.100 and that's what's been really frustrating even though more trim 00:48:52.100 --> 00:48:53.900 switch. I'm fully supportive of you know, 00:48:53.900 --> 00:48:55.600 I pushed back against a little bit saying yes, 00:48:55.600 --> 00:48:58.500 we do need that but in 3 months or 4 months a year from 00:48:58.500 --> 00:49:01.500 now and it's endemic is over those bills are still do and that's 00:49:01.500 --> 00:49:03.200 why automatic boost immunity. 00:49:03.200 --> 00:49:06.700 That's what I talked about in the last briefing about reoccuring 00:49:06.700 --> 00:49:10.900 payments $2,000 a month for every single person in the United 00:49:10.900 --> 00:49:13.800 States every single neighbor not to be at you know, 00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:16.800 right now. It's so restrictive in a way that if you look at leaves 00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:19.100 a lot of her folks out and we put it on a debit card, 00:49:19.100 --> 00:49:25.900 you know that at 25% and even a debit card. 00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:28.400 What is so Transformer the net way that you know, 00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:31.200 we want to keep people in their homes and say they can use it 00:49:31.200 --> 00:49:32.100 online or sitting there. 00:49:32.100 --> 00:49:34.400 So many things that again they don't have access to because 00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:37.500 of this time damage and we're really getting away. 00:49:37.500 --> 00:49:40.700 The season is other things like either my neighbors who get checkered. 00:49:40.700 --> 00:49:44.200 I'm going down to the store to get cash and getting like $300 00:49:44.200 --> 00:49:47.300 knocked off. And so they're left with $900 similar to other 00:49:47.300 --> 00:49:50.300 kind of Bank fees that are involved when folks go in and try 00:49:50.300 --> 00:49:52.600 again with the debit card. 00:49:52.600 --> 00:49:55.900 It's there but I love is that automatic boosted communities 00:49:55.900 --> 00:49:59.400 Act is really taking a huge wave of support from local elected 00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:01.700 officials know many details are non-partisan. 00:50:01.700 --> 00:50:04.900 They say look the way to stimulate our local economy is putting 00:50:04.900 --> 00:50:07.800 money in the pockets of real people. 00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:09.800 We don't hoard it a lot like corporations. 00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:11.700 We actually spend it. 00:50:11.700 --> 00:50:12.700 I mean, it's bad or good thing. 00:50:12.700 --> 00:50:13.300 Whatever it is. 00:50:13.300 --> 00:50:16.300 You give us money we're going to we're going to put it right 00:50:16.300 --> 00:50:18.900 back into our local communities and local businesses small 00:50:18.900 --> 00:50:21.900 businesses. And so I'm really excited about it. 00:50:21.900 --> 00:50:24.600 And I and I think what they love the most is that is sustainable 00:50:24.600 --> 00:50:25.800 because even after the pain. 00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:38.200 Retard those debit cards with $1,000 a month a year after a really 00:50:38.200 --> 00:50:42.500 great time to transform into what I love about our country. 00:50:42.500 --> 00:50:45.700 Sometimes it in the part that nobody really sees that I think 00:50:45.700 --> 00:50:48.400 is beautiful at because there's so much Brokenness and so much 00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:52.000 really terrible horrific history, but one of the things that 00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:55.600 I know is when there's a call for like people need your help 00:50:55.600 --> 00:50:57.400 people want to jump on board. 00:50:57.400 --> 00:50:59.700 They want to be part of like a Peace Corps Americorps 00:50:59.700 --> 00:51:00.700 and so forth. 00:51:00.700 --> 00:51:06.500 So many folks across the country already like in their own living 00:51:06.500 --> 00:51:14.600 rooms in there cuz it's showing mass text message. 00:51:14.600 --> 00:51:15.900 Can you check on three people? 00:51:16.700 --> 00:51:19.700 A majority of a 60% people responded Yes, 00:51:19.700 --> 00:51:22.600 I'll check on three people and I love that and I think that 00:51:22.600 --> 00:51:25.500 there was such a great way to try to bring people together 00:51:25.500 --> 00:51:27.700 and use you know, what you know, what 00:51:27.700 --> 00:51:30.700 we talkin about economics were we talking about you? 00:51:30.700 --> 00:51:33.400 No assets corporations all these other things but we never 00:51:33.400 --> 00:51:37.000 talk about people and how people can contribute and it doesn't 00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:40.400 cost anything to really just like get people to bring on board 00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:44.300 an employed them and get them again goes to some of the most 00:51:44.300 --> 00:51:46.100 vulnerable some of the communities that are completely 00:51:46.100 --> 00:51:53.300 disconnected because of the coronavirus right now folks to get 00:51:53.300 --> 00:51:57.200 them to come and actually go to some of the most disconnected 00:51:57.200 --> 00:52:00.000 communities movieworld maybe in some Urban neighborhoods 00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:05.500 in in just like you see what he scored Miracle kind of basically 00:52:05.500 --> 00:52:11.000 being hired in to come in and do this specifically to be able 00:52:11.000 --> 00:52:14.000 to reach people get their resources that they need. 00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:17.400 It's almost like getting like social workers on on But like 00:52:17.400 --> 00:52:24.600 legs and I'm inspired by that was really thrilled when organizations 00:52:24.600 --> 00:52:27.200 have been already pulling on it and people were really interested 00:52:27.200 --> 00:52:32.600 in it. And so I'm hoping and I had a previous call the caucus 00:52:32.600 --> 00:52:35.200 and somebody brought it up and I was like, 00:52:35.200 --> 00:52:38.400 oh I've been talkin about that is exactly what we need to be doing. 00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:41.300 Alright, I'll tell you 17 million people are unemployed 00:52:41.300 --> 00:52:44.500 right now through the unemployment and I have submitted 00:52:44.500 --> 00:52:47.900 a request for unemployment benefits now that's that's just 70 00:52:47.900 --> 00:52:50.500 million alone. Just this this but we don't know what's going 00:52:50.500 --> 00:52:51.400 to happen next month. 00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:55.200 And then we have a third of our neighbors that couldn't pay 00:52:55.200 --> 00:52:59.000 rent in April about 3 or close to like four million people 00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:00.700 could have paid their mortgage this month. 00:53:00.700 --> 00:53:04.800 There is a huge great need to do something transformative 00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:07.700 in creating the score is exactly what we need to do. 00:53:07.700 --> 00:53:08.200 I mean 00:53:16.600 --> 00:53:21.800 Weigh-in in really trying to you know uplift people and be able 00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:26.700 to provide again the services that they need human contact 00:53:26.700 --> 00:53:29.700 is so lacking sometimes and everything that we do in this is the 00:53:29.700 --> 00:53:38.100 way we can really benefit from it that the conventional 00:53:38.100 --> 00:53:42.600 wisdom on the hill has changed about a lot of these fundamental 00:53:42.600 --> 00:53:48.500 transformative ideas that spells for a while but for instance, 00:53:48.500 --> 00:53:51.600 you know, the speaker is suddenly talking about guaranteed 00:53:51.600 --> 00:53:55.200 income like it's not crazy which is something I would never 00:53:55.200 --> 00:53:59.600 have imagined in a million years a happening this soon and you 00:53:59.600 --> 00:54:02.000 know, that's not good part of your automatic Lisa communities 00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:03.500 act recurring payments. 00:54:03.900 --> 00:54:09.200 Is the is the depths of the seriousness of this crisis causing 00:54:09.200 --> 00:54:12.100 any kind of real change in thinking already or is it or is it 00:54:12.100 --> 00:54:16.600 just a political shift that you're seeing primarily because 00:54:16.600 --> 00:54:20.000 I've never thought it was crazy acids with thought it was transformative 00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:24.500 writing, but I think it's it's it's what we've already seen 00:54:24.500 --> 00:54:26.200 in the past, which is you know, 00:54:26.200 --> 00:54:27.400 Congress is reactionary. 00:54:27.400 --> 00:54:32.900 We we wait until something like this happens for us to have 00:54:32.900 --> 00:54:35.900 an Awakening to frost a realized. 00:54:35.900 --> 00:54:40.000 Oh, you know more African-Americans are dying and missed it again 00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:45.200 from covid-19 the other community they make up 40%. 00:54:45.200 --> 00:54:48.000 A poet of our African Americans in Michigan, 00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:50.900 even though Michigan's African American population makes it's 00:54:50.900 --> 00:54:54.800 like less than 15% of all the sudden people talk about structural 00:54:54.800 --> 00:54:58.700 racism. They're talking about what is happening where African 00:54:58.700 --> 00:55:00.700 Americans have died in a higher rate what is happening 00:55:00.700 --> 00:55:03.600 with our healthcare system that we have hospitals closing? 00:55:03.900 --> 00:55:07.600 When you think yourself why would Hospital be closing down when 00:55:07.600 --> 00:55:10.800 we have more people that are sick now and work need why because 00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:13.800 it is not comfortable to take care of sick people in our country. 00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:18.100 I mean, these are things that again my colleagues are now finally 00:55:18.100 --> 00:55:20.400 reacting to and finally saying we have to do something 00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:23.500 about it. It's unfortunate because the one thing I think one 00:55:23.500 --> 00:55:24.600 of my colleagues came up to me, 00:55:24.600 --> 00:55:27.700 it was only like a few weeks that I was there. 00:55:27.700 --> 00:55:31.000 We were doing one minute speech about setting are kind of looking 00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:35.500 over my notes and he goes hey kid now he's older most of them 00:55:35.500 --> 00:55:37.100 are older than me and he said said, 00:55:37.100 --> 00:55:40.600 you know, how do you like it so far and I said to one 00:55:40.600 --> 00:55:42.600 thing I noticed the lack of urgency. 00:55:42.600 --> 00:55:46.200 Like I came from the streets like the ground up like talking 00:55:46.200 --> 00:55:48.600 to Residents saying we need $50 minimum wage. 00:55:48.600 --> 00:55:51.700 We need this receipt if we need this and and no do something 00:55:51.700 --> 00:55:54.800 about health care and I get there and everybody's bike weight. 00:55:56.000 --> 00:55:58.400 And I'm like, what are we waiting for? 00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:03.900 And I just hope you know, I read a great quote from Sonya Renee 00:56:03.900 --> 00:56:07.700 Taylor and she said, you know, I hope you don't go back to normal 00:56:07.700 --> 00:56:11.700 cuz that wasn't normal and she talked about how you know, 00:56:11.700 --> 00:56:15.000 if it's not corporate greed to hate into all of the things 00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:17.600 that just so painful, you know for me, 00:56:17.600 --> 00:56:23.200 if one of the impression that way so relevant probably through 00:56:23.200 --> 00:56:26.700 to communities like mine that she said this is the time to create 00:56:26.700 --> 00:56:29.200 a new garment and I just hope we do. 00:56:29.200 --> 00:56:33.600 I hope that you know, we listen and understand that that wasn't 00:56:33.600 --> 00:56:37.600 normal that everything that has been broken every single systems. 00:56:37.600 --> 00:56:38.400 That folks have been. 00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:42.100 You know, I'm not on the halls of Congress right there and then 00:56:42.100 --> 00:56:46.300 saying please do something about these best do something 00:56:46.300 --> 00:56:47.300 about this issue. 00:56:47.300 --> 00:56:53.200 All of them are now, you know wondering is this going to be the 00:56:53.200 --> 00:56:55.200 moment with that people are finally awakened and they're 00:56:55.200 --> 00:56:55.700 going to react 00:56:56.000 --> 00:57:10.700 Do something about it, but it feels like it's a little bit of 00:57:10.700 --> 00:57:12.700 a trickle down bail out in some ways. 00:57:12.700 --> 00:57:15.400 I mean the Federal Reserve portion of it is heavily. 00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:18.900 It's based on the idea that we have to prop up the capital 00:57:18.900 --> 00:57:22.000 markets. We have to make sure that the employers are stable 00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:27.100 in that all of that isn't is immediate massive financial 00:57:27.100 --> 00:57:30.800 aid that it didn't take any kind of logistical wrangling 00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:31.900 to get the money out there. 00:57:31.900 --> 00:57:34.900 But the money to get into ordinary people there's a million 00:57:34.900 --> 00:57:37.800 steps. It's fraught with problems up and down. 00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:41.600 Do you think that there's there might be a rethink of had it had 00:57:41.600 --> 00:57:46.900 to do this going forward or cuz the money keeps running out the 00:57:46.900 --> 00:57:48.700 money keeps running out from small business at me. 00:57:48.700 --> 00:57:49.800 I heard it by the end of the week. 00:57:49.800 --> 00:57:52.100 We probably wouldn't run out of all the money that we just put 00:57:52.100 --> 00:57:54.500 into the recent small business. 00:57:56.000 --> 00:57:59.400 Cyclones and so forth the funding for hospitals is running 00:57:59.400 --> 00:58:02.200 out so funny for testing is running out. 00:58:02.200 --> 00:58:05.900 And so the it doesn't ever seem, 00:58:05.900 --> 00:58:10.500 you know, people going to understand not throwing money at something 00:58:10.500 --> 00:58:12.800 that is broken in and one of my you know, 00:58:12.800 --> 00:58:15.600 I just have the trait small business restaurants talking 00:58:15.600 --> 00:58:19.000 to me about how what a risk for them to even apply for those 00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:22.000 small business loans, right whether or not it's going to be forgiven 00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:25.200 and whether or not because it says someone certainly don't 00:58:25.200 --> 00:58:27.500 know what the future exhale so so hard for them. 00:58:27.500 --> 00:58:31.700 And so they throw something at something that's broken and not 00:58:31.700 --> 00:58:36.200 really what is happening is very hard to the agreement 00:58:36.200 --> 00:58:40.500 continue to go far enough and what I mean by that is not just 00:58:40.500 --> 00:58:45.000 a dollar amount but actual real accountability actual change, 00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:50.600 you know, why can't we get a list of you folks that there are 00:58:50.600 --> 00:58:53.100 getting me these dollars in and ask him how many of the people 00:58:53.100 --> 00:58:55.400 that play to the one of the things that we learn from the Great 00:58:55.400 --> 00:58:55.600 Recession? 00:58:56.000 --> 00:58:59.300 We bailed out all these folks and then what are they do they 00:58:59.300 --> 00:59:01.000 they went got in people's Health Care. 00:59:01.000 --> 00:59:01.800 They got it. 00:59:01.800 --> 00:59:03.400 Our neighbors that work for digital. 00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:05.300 We're going to keep everybody but then you wouldn't go to their 00:59:05.300 --> 00:59:08.700 Healthcare. You got to their page retirement. 00:59:08.700 --> 00:59:11.800 I mean, this is this is what the federal government paid for. 00:59:11.800 --> 00:59:15.500 I mean is for them to do all those things these people things 00:59:15.500 --> 00:59:18.600 that we end up having to pay for at the end again because 00:59:18.600 --> 00:59:23.000 we have to get food is to increase so we can get them food 00:59:23.000 --> 00:59:33.100 assistance or to cover the undershirt chair woman Maxine Waters 00:59:33.100 --> 00:59:36.800 today had a call and it was great because everyone I think 00:59:36.800 --> 00:59:38.900 was on the same page, you know, 00:59:38.900 --> 00:59:41.100 when she was in agreement that we needed recurring payments 00:59:41.100 --> 00:59:41.700 that we needed. 00:59:41.700 --> 00:59:48.500 I'm sorry. So call it prayer it Ramadan and so it was all of 00:59:48.500 --> 00:59:52.700 these amazing, you know ideas around and he bowled a different 00:59:52.700 --> 00:59:55.200 around like what do we do about medical debt right now and what 00:59:55.200 --> 00:59:55.600 do we do? 00:59:55.900 --> 01:00:01.400 Where was real conversations about this is the time that maybe 01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:02.800 we need some of the structural change. 01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:06.500 You know, how are we dealing with economic in justices and and 01:00:06.500 --> 01:00:07.200 some of the other issues? 01:00:07.200 --> 01:00:10.100 I mean we're even talking about how do we deal with environmental 01:00:10.100 --> 01:00:15.400 racism access to water and impacts a lot of communities 01:00:15.400 --> 01:00:23.100 of color shifting already in terms of the willingness 01:00:23.100 --> 01:00:27.000 of your colleagues to act or consider idea that they have him 01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:28.200 before. Yeah. I know. 01:00:28.200 --> 01:00:34.500 I think there is an emergency before and now there seems to be 01:00:34.500 --> 01:00:39.100 like no we have a real problem here in this the pandemic 01:00:39.100 --> 01:00:45.600 and there's too many uncertainties and too much I think broken 01:00:45.600 --> 01:00:48.200 this right now that but they do they realize I can't keep it all 01:00:48.200 --> 01:00:50.100 broken anymore. They have to do something. 01:00:55.900 --> 01:00:59.700 How to call it but I again it's reaction reacting right and and 01:00:59.700 --> 01:01:01.500 that's one thing that I do know again, 01:01:01.500 --> 01:01:06.200 I've only been here very year but for for my community, 01:01:06.200 --> 01:01:09.200 we've already been waiting right and where the front line communities 01:01:09.200 --> 01:01:11.300 always help if you want to see what do we nothing looks like 01:01:11.300 --> 01:01:14.500 you come to my district you come and see I'll show you but doing 01:01:14.500 --> 01:01:17.100 nothing on him around the climate crisis do nothing on poverty 01:01:17.100 --> 01:01:21.000 do nothing on public education like you want to see the deterioration 01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:23.800 of how we invest in our local governments who are literally 01:01:23.800 --> 01:01:28.500 going to go bankrupt because they know they're fire firefighters 01:01:28.500 --> 01:01:31.600 are getting covid-19 how to make sure they get access to healthcare 01:01:31.600 --> 01:01:33.400 be able to still provide services. 01:01:33.400 --> 01:01:37.300 All of this is to say if anything's they are not reacting 01:01:37.300 --> 01:01:40.600 to it. I don't know where it's coming from other than it seems 01:01:40.600 --> 01:01:43.800 to be a pattern again from Congress that they wait until there's 01:01:43.800 --> 01:01:43.900 a 01:01:44.700 --> 01:01:50.200 An emergency you find any irony in this throughout the last 01:01:50.200 --> 01:01:53.900 year covering the the presidential election the Democratic 01:01:53.900 --> 01:01:59.100 primary there was so much resistance within the party to a lot of 01:01:59.100 --> 01:02:01.900 these ideas that are suddenly now seeming like they're 01:02:01.900 --> 01:02:03.200 obvious and necessary. 01:02:03.200 --> 01:02:06.600 Is there talk about that within the caucus that God may be we 01:02:06.600 --> 01:02:11.200 we shouldn't have had that discussion that way last year or I think 01:02:11.200 --> 01:02:12.200 we don't have time for it. 01:02:12.200 --> 01:02:13.900 We are we're not doing that. 01:02:13.900 --> 01:02:17.100 I'm really proud of my cock is that we're not doing that at we're 01:02:17.100 --> 01:02:21.000 just saying how you know actually have a bill on that you do I 01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:24.100 said, yep. I have a bill on that are or another Kali today 01:02:24.100 --> 01:02:26.800 said no actually have a Bill about the student debt issue in this 01:02:26.800 --> 01:02:30.100 specifically handles that I have another, you know colleagues 01:02:30.100 --> 01:02:33.500 talking about. Well, you know, this is what I was trying to do 01:02:33.500 --> 01:02:36.600 with in maternal Health, you know for black natural help for 01:02:36.600 --> 01:02:38.400 women, especially during this crisis. 01:02:38.400 --> 01:02:41.800 So what it what it is is a lot of folks are now coming 01:02:41.800 --> 01:02:42.800 together in the end. 01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:44.300 I think we're listening differently. 01:02:44.700 --> 01:02:48.900 Other identifying it to again what's going on now with the pain 01:02:48.900 --> 01:02:56.700 that makes Sanders campaign how have you been able to we talked 01:02:56.700 --> 01:02:58.900 to Nina Turner last week who said that she was, 01:02:58.900 --> 01:03:00.300 you know kind of it. 01:03:00.300 --> 01:03:03.900 She was acknowledging people from morning, but also looking 01:03:03.900 --> 01:03:07.900 forward. So how do you think that people can who had all that 01:03:07.900 --> 01:03:10.400 energy and passion around this movement? 01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:15.500 What can everyone do now and specially in terms of 20/20 any 01:03:15.500 --> 01:03:22.300 advice before I even got here and I really think that's what 01:03:22.300 --> 01:03:23.200 most people to the polls. 01:03:23.200 --> 01:03:24.300 You know, what I saw a huge. 01:03:24.300 --> 01:03:28.000 I saw a 80% increase in and folks coming to the poles during 01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:28.700 my last election. 01:03:28.700 --> 01:03:31.100 Yes, because I was maybe partly on the ballot, 01:03:31.100 --> 01:03:34.300 but mostly because of the fact that we were doing to promote 01:03:34.300 --> 01:03:37.900 the vote and also in the life of marijuana and you know, 01:03:37.900 --> 01:03:41.800 there was three really progressive ballot resolutions 01:03:41.800 --> 01:03:43.900 ballot measures on the on the ballot. 01:03:44.700 --> 01:03:47.600 You like it so much was Sanders was about was kind of issue 01:03:47.600 --> 01:03:51.100 campaigning know he really put Medicare for all the national 01:03:51.100 --> 01:03:54.100 stage really put a lot of the issues that we've been talking 01:03:54.100 --> 01:03:58.300 about that nobody really want to talk about is it you know that 01:03:58.300 --> 01:04:01.800 I felt like I was so inspiring that he gets it like people 01:04:01.800 --> 01:04:06.200 don't have time to wait until that that is something that I'm 01:04:06.200 --> 01:04:08.400 continuing to work and the Grassroots level, 01:04:08.400 --> 01:04:11.200 you know, Progressive caucus with men the Michigan Democratic 01:04:11.200 --> 01:04:13.000 party was like what now what I said, 01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:14.600 what do you mean what we've been where we've been pushing 01:04:14.600 --> 01:04:16.600 for before he came along the same stuff. 01:04:16.600 --> 01:04:17.800 That's what you continue to do. 01:04:17.800 --> 01:04:21.000 And so I think it's really hard people to believe that but that's 01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:26.500 exactly what we've been doing constantly and I I'm I'm really 01:04:26.500 --> 01:04:28.900 thrilled that if if there was anything 01:04:29.900 --> 01:04:32.500 For me, it's like seeing what is actually possible. 01:04:32.500 --> 01:04:36.700 But this world that is possible to have a candidate but didn't 01:04:36.700 --> 01:04:40.400 take any corporate dollars to reach that level of the possibly 01:04:40.400 --> 01:04:43.300 with some present in the United States again without having 01:04:43.300 --> 01:04:47.300 to sell a piece of their soul or switch or giving it was so 01:04:47.300 --> 01:04:51.800 refreshing it was so like I finally like somebody will speak 01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:54.900 let you know even if he was kind of like your uncle your grandpa 01:04:54.900 --> 01:05:01.200 or whatever but it was something you know that there was a desire 01:05:01.200 --> 01:05:04.600 no need for him to feel like they can breathe and he's going 01:05:04.600 --> 01:05:07.500 to take he's going to say it and he does and he kept saying 01:05:07.500 --> 01:05:11.400 it and I just think that that's what we're going to miss enough. 01:05:11.400 --> 01:05:15.700 We're going to mourn but you know doesn't keep us from continuing 01:05:15.700 --> 01:05:19.600 are, you know, advocacy on the ground and I have to ask this 01:05:19.600 --> 01:05:25.100 question to convert a little bit of the Trump campaign in 2016 01:05:25.100 --> 01:05:28.400 and a little bit of his rallies last year. 01:05:29.900 --> 01:05:34.600 Heading into this year it when it when it was looking like Bernie 01:05:34.600 --> 01:05:36.100 might be the nominee. 01:05:36.100 --> 01:05:40.800 You were supposed Trump was spending a lot of time talking 01:05:40.800 --> 01:05:42.000 about the squad. 01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:44.500 He was to be fair. 01:05:44.500 --> 01:05:46.900 Not so much about you is much more about Congressman 01:05:46.900 --> 01:05:50.800 Omar and Alexandria ocasio-cortez, but were you 01:05:58.300 --> 01:06:05.400 Can remember is the one from Michigan yet prepared for that? 01:06:05.400 --> 01:06:07.500 I mean it was that a thought that was entering your head like 01:06:07.500 --> 01:06:09.900 yeah, I'm going to be a character in the general election. 01:06:09.900 --> 01:06:12.700 Like I'm in this is not like nothing to you all but I really 01:06:12.700 --> 01:06:15.000 don't spend time trying to think about what's going on in his mind 01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:17.500 or when he is he doing or how you know, 01:06:17.500 --> 01:06:21.300 all I can do is continue to outwork the hate it while he's sweet. 01:06:21.300 --> 01:06:25.000 I work, you know, that's all I can continue to do and you know 01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:26.500 was I surprised or whatever. 01:06:26.500 --> 01:06:28.600 I don't know if I have any more of anything, 01:06:28.600 --> 01:06:31.800 but I I know to myself that's exactly what you want. 01:06:31.800 --> 01:06:34.400 He wants me to react he wants me to distract, 01:06:34.400 --> 01:06:36.800 you know diss track from the work that I need to do with the 01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:39.800 given continue to speak the truth about didn't compensate 01:06:39.800 --> 01:06:44.400 in the continued to letting people down every single promise 01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:46.800 every, you know, the lawlessness all those kinds of things 01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:50.800 and so, you know, I am not sure if you don't typical polish 01:06:50.800 --> 01:06:54.500 politician and Morgan and more of an advocate in the social 01:06:54.500 --> 01:06:57.500 worker at Harpeth, you know, all I continue to do is 01:06:58.100 --> 01:07:02.300 Push forward what you know, my residents are asking you to do 01:07:02.300 --> 01:07:06.500 and keep moving forward without allowing anything that he does 01:07:06.500 --> 01:07:07.600 to to distract us. 01:07:07.600 --> 01:07:11.000 I think that you know, folks ask me all the time and I don't 01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:12.200 I can't read minds. 01:07:12.200 --> 01:07:13.000 I don't know what he's thinking. 01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:16.400 All I know is that it hurts people when he continues to do it 01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:18.900 because he might be targeting me but there a lot of people 01:07:18.900 --> 01:07:21.600 that find it very painful when they see the present United 01:07:21.600 --> 01:07:23.700 States attacking people solely based on their ethnicity 01:07:23.700 --> 01:07:36.000 or their faith is with M and ends up going wrong someone 01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:41.900 somewhere and it seems like you and also Center Sanders that 01:07:41.900 --> 01:07:47.200 his strategy was always too kind of just talked past him continue 01:07:47.200 --> 01:07:48.500 focusing on the issues. 01:07:48.500 --> 01:07:50.200 Right? Just don't even acknowledge. 01:07:50.200 --> 01:07:52.800 Don't think about it one way or the other don't even don't 01:07:52.800 --> 01:07:54.100 even worry about it. 01:07:54.100 --> 01:07:57.700 Is that the best way to deal with Donald Trump another words 01:07:58.100 --> 01:08:01.900 Apple it politically and it and and morally and ethically 01:08:01.900 --> 01:08:03.000 nothing at all other ways. 01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:04.900 Is that the best way to handle that kind of politician 01:08:04.900 --> 01:08:11.500 the way I've dealt with it before, 01:08:11.500 --> 01:08:15.300 you know, I've dealt with police before corporate bullies 01:08:15.300 --> 01:08:19.500 the Koch brothers the billionaires that were upset that I didn't 01:08:19.500 --> 01:08:22.600 support tax cuts for them and you know someone even you know, 01:08:22.600 --> 01:08:24.900 try to recall me while I want to state house. 01:08:24.900 --> 01:08:28.000 All I kept doing is continue to organize people and show them 01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:31.900 that you know, people power the power of the people is way more 01:08:31.900 --> 01:08:37.500 intelligent than you much more loving but you know really 01:08:37.500 --> 01:08:41.200 get it and really want to make people's lives better in her genuine 01:08:41.200 --> 01:08:42.300 about it. They're real about it. 01:08:42.300 --> 01:08:44.200 And I just, you know want to continue. 01:08:44.200 --> 01:08:45.500 Bliss Bad vs. 01:08:45.500 --> 01:08:49.900 Getting stuck on, you know, trying to read people's minds and 01:08:49.900 --> 01:08:56.600 if you think he needs to be said there's these allegations, 01:08:56.600 --> 01:09:00.600 but if you think he needs to Dress them know I I hope you're 01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:03.800 asking my male colleagues to fuchsia dress them. 01:09:03.800 --> 01:09:11.200 But absolutely like I bear Syrian hamster first appeared 01:09:11.200 --> 01:09:21.400 on the show us know, they're serious and my sister who consoles 01:09:21.400 --> 01:09:27.000 survivors of sexual assault domestic violence, you know, I 01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:30.200 hear the horrifying stories what's happening from employer 01:09:30.200 --> 01:09:32.700 to even though he just knows his family member. 01:09:32.700 --> 01:09:35.500 She says, you know, these are really serious allegation. 01:09:35.500 --> 01:09:39.400 And if anything, you know, ignoring them is not the way to sit to 01:09:39.400 --> 01:09:45.400 move forward for healing for any survivors out there that 01:09:45.400 --> 01:09:50.700 will you do to me if it really matters as a leader is somebody 01:09:50.700 --> 01:09:51.300 I want to be pregnant. 01:09:51.300 --> 01:09:54.300 I said how you proceed with this is something extremely 01:09:54.300 --> 01:09:57.200 serious and it's still happening to women young women. 01:09:58.100 --> 01:10:03.100 Right now and we want to know what you're thinking about this 01:10:03.100 --> 01:10:06.300 and and whether or not he's taking it very seriously looks 01:10:06.300 --> 01:10:13.400 like I deny deny, but hopefully he'll listen to this anything 01:10:13.400 --> 01:10:14.400 else. You want to share with her. 01:10:14.400 --> 01:10:21.700 Listen to be worse said something really profound. 01:10:21.700 --> 01:10:24.700 He said to me this is a couple years ago, 01:10:24.700 --> 01:10:27.600 but I really think it resonates now is that you know, 01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:31.600 our country is not divided but we're disconnected and I feel 01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:35.700 in so many ways this pandemic is this opportunity to connect 01:10:35.700 --> 01:10:38.200 with each other in a human way social distance me, 01:10:38.200 --> 01:10:42.900 of course, I'm a terrible way, but I hope people understand 01:10:42.900 --> 01:10:44.400 that we're all in this together. 01:10:44.400 --> 01:10:48.500 But what I mean by that is don't think that this is only impact 01:10:48.500 --> 01:10:51.600 your family are others, but it really impact everything 01:10:51.600 --> 01:10:52.700 that we touch around us. 01:10:52.700 --> 01:10:56.000 And so I just hope that we use this opportunity to connect 01:10:56.000 --> 01:10:58.900 with each other and really Show up for each other. 01:10:58.900 --> 01:11:02.500 Thank you so much and good luck with everything you do. 01:11:09.800 --> 01:11:13.100 Take today and you know a lot of really interesting answers 01:11:13.100 --> 01:11:15.500 about you know, their kind of disparity in the ballot, 01:11:15.500 --> 01:11:22.600 but also, you know about the the tower read stories what your 01:11:22.600 --> 01:11:26.800 question gets to is that there's there's going to be substantial 01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:31.300 dialogue within the Democratic party about how to handle this 01:11:31.300 --> 01:11:34.100 going forward and it's not going to be something that people 01:11:34.100 --> 01:11:36.000 are not going to talk about it anymore. 01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:48.600 It's pretty clear approach is to deny everything right that's 01:11:48.600 --> 01:11:51.500 not workable and also the initial, you know, 01:11:51.500 --> 01:11:57.100 this is a weapon is nation of me to thing which the Republicans are 01:11:57.100 --> 01:12:01.000 surely going to flip that on them come and come general 01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:04.200 election time and put what will see when when that happens 01:12:04.200 --> 01:12:06.000 because we can talk about that little bit more. 01:12:09.800 --> 01:12:12.600 I don't even know what to call it the mainstream media like 01:12:12.600 --> 01:12:18.400 refuses to talk about something and then only the people in on 01:12:18.400 --> 01:12:20.900 the left and the right talk about it and then they get there 01:12:20.900 --> 01:12:29.700 like stigmatize it as a fringe thing as multiple other issues 01:12:29.700 --> 01:12:40.300 and you use you ignore it and then it only appears and on you 01:12:40.300 --> 01:12:43.300 know, Consortium or Fox News or whatever it is. 01:12:43.300 --> 01:12:46.900 You can't just say oh that it's it's bad because it appeared 01:12:46.900 --> 01:12:48.800 in that in that news Outlet ratings. 01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:53.500 What which is what happens with a lot of issues these days that's 01:12:53.500 --> 01:12:55.600 a common feature of this this media landscape. 01:12:55.600 --> 01:12:58.200 So that was interesting to hear her talk about that. 01:12:58.200 --> 01:13:02.200 So we're going to have a lot of interesting things to talk about 01:13:02.200 --> 01:13:03.000 next week as well. 01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:06.800 So at thanks for tuning in listen to us to scribe. 01:13:06.800 --> 01:13:08.100 Why are merchandise 01:13:09.800 --> 01:13:10.700 Stop giving suggestions. 01:13:10.700 --> 01:13:12.900 I think we should make t-shirts that say give a shit right 01:13:12.900 --> 01:13:14.700 now right now. 01:13:14.700 --> 01:13:25.300 Yeah, I like that. 01:13:29.900 --> 01:13:31.200 That's so America. 01:13:31.200 --> 01:13:31.800 I love that. 01:13:31.800 --> 01:13:35.000 We're going to sell that we're going to sell it to you. 01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:37.300 So thanks for tuning in. 01:13:37.300 --> 01:13:38.400 Anyway, I'll listen to it. 01:13:38.400 --> 01:13:40.000 Listen to us was gross next week, 01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:41.400 and I don't listen to pod save America, 01:13:41.400 --> 01:13:45.900 ohmygod. Do not listen to them for much for a for listening 01:13:45.900 --> 01:13:47.400 for tuning in and will I will see you next week.