WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.900 But some of us continuing to work and learn from home high-speed 00:00:03.900 --> 00:00:07.600 for liable internet access is as important as ever, 00:00:07.600 --> 00:00:11.300 but for those who perhaps simply can't afford it or for those 00:00:11.300 --> 00:00:15.700 in rural areas with less reliable internet access the challenges 00:00:15.700 --> 00:00:18.700 associated with working from home or even more complicated 00:00:18.700 --> 00:00:21.900 So today we're going to be diving into what some of those challenges 00:00:21.900 --> 00:00:26.100 are and how organizations isps and future Technologies 00:00:26.100 --> 00:00:28.500 could even fix them stick around. 00:00:34.500 --> 00:00:36.400 Hi everyone, welcome back to today and Tack. 00:00:36.400 --> 00:00:39.400 I'm Julia bishop and I'm here with Diaz karibal at the founder 00:00:39.400 --> 00:00:42.100 and principal analyst of ZK research CS. 00:00:42.100 --> 00:00:43.900 Thank you so much for calling and chatting with me about this 00:00:43.900 --> 00:00:48.600 beer. I think this is a as you mentioned. 00:00:48.600 --> 00:00:50.500 Okay. This is an incredibly important product. 00:00:50.500 --> 00:00:54.800 I think is much more important than most people realize unless 00:00:54.800 --> 00:00:57.500 you've been affected by a few you may have no idea that these 00:00:57.500 --> 00:00:58.400 problems actually exist. 00:00:58.400 --> 00:01:03.500 Absolutely. So where are you know about 6ish months home from 00:01:03.500 --> 00:01:06.900 work from home when I learn from home stay-at-home orders 00:01:06.900 --> 00:01:08.000 across the u.s. 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:10.600 Obviously different countries are in a bit of different 00:01:10.600 --> 00:01:12.800 circumstances, but we're going to be focusing on the u.s. 00:01:12.800 --> 00:01:16.000 Today. So I'm curious if we can talk a little bit just to start 00:01:16.000 --> 00:01:19.900 off about what some of the challenges were associated 00:01:19.900 --> 00:01:24.600 with internet access were, you know back in March and whether or 00:01:24.600 --> 00:01:29.200 not you know isps have really focused in on those challenges 00:01:29.200 --> 00:01:32.100 and fix them within you know these six months. 00:01:32.900 --> 00:01:36.600 Yeah, just to give you a I guess kind of a level sitting 00:01:36.600 --> 00:01:39.800 here. I do have some sort of interesting data points. 00:01:39.800 --> 00:01:43.200 I think they publish an annual internet report every year and 00:01:43.200 --> 00:01:48.700 they stated that they were 5.3 billion internet users today 00:01:48.700 --> 00:01:53.000 around the globe 3.6 or actually connected device for Capital 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:55.100 book the average Broadband speed around the world. 00:01:55.100 --> 00:01:59.700 So I don't know if you can imagine having to do all the things 00:01:59.700 --> 00:02:01.300 to do over a hundred megabytes per second, 00:02:01.300 --> 00:02:04.300 but Broadband actually because it has become an essential 00:02:04.300 --> 00:02:10.200 part of Education of working of healthcare, 00:02:10.200 --> 00:02:13.300 even recreational activities in a lot of ways that we were watching. 00:02:13.300 --> 00:02:15.000 We can't go live sporting events. 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:17.300 We watch one TV we can go to the gym. 00:02:17.300 --> 00:02:20.200 So we do a lot of at home cleaning and so without reliable 00:02:20.200 --> 00:02:23.300 internet access we can't do anything now if you look at the. 00:02:23.300 --> 00:02:28.700 Of time between December 2019 and March 2020 if it was the oecd 00:02:28.700 --> 00:02:32.700 reported that there were in this was at the start at 60% 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:36.500 Traffic increase at the internet exchange Point soon. 00:02:36.500 --> 00:02:39.300 So that's where a lot of the isps come together. 00:02:39.300 --> 00:02:43.700 And that was we were literate crushing our our networks 00:02:43.700 --> 00:02:46.700 and a lot of the the isps about that braid their networks 00:02:46.700 --> 00:02:49.700 and things but even if they upgrade their Network the back hall that 00:02:49.700 --> 00:02:52.300 they have needs to be upgraded its walls or Internet 00:02:52.300 --> 00:02:59.900 Piers be upgraded you want to focus on the US and I can say 00:02:59.900 --> 00:03:05.100 that 60 million Americans today, they make up about 19.4% of the 00:03:05.100 --> 00:03:06.800 total population live in rural areas. 00:03:06.800 --> 00:03:10.600 And those were people don't have reliable internet access 00:03:10.600 --> 00:03:14.300 in Suburban areas, but 80% of the population have good high-quality 00:03:14.300 --> 00:03:17.400 broadband. That's only 60% rural areas. 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:21.700 Even the access to smartphone to computer if you feel like it 00:03:21.700 --> 00:03:26.600 23% decrease in so rural Broadband in the u.s. 00:03:26.600 --> 00:03:31.300 Is a is a significant problem is there just isn't enough bandwidth 00:03:31.300 --> 00:03:32.400 there other countries around the 00:03:33.000 --> 00:03:36.000 In the world that have National Broadband policies we still 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:40.200 don't and I think it's something that the society is something 00:03:40.200 --> 00:03:41.300 or Dumber. Just kind of ignored. 00:03:42.500 --> 00:03:44.500 I think later into our conversation. 00:03:44.500 --> 00:03:48.500 We can perhaps shift continue what specifically isps can do to 00:03:48.500 --> 00:03:52.800 lighten the load I guess or ease the burden on Rural communities 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:55.800 and make sure that they have internet access but I'm curious 00:03:55.800 --> 00:03:57.600 from sort of an IT perspective. 00:03:57.600 --> 00:04:01.100 If you are, you know in your it within your organization 00:04:01.100 --> 00:04:05.600 your it Department probably deployed some solutions at the beginning of 00:04:05.600 --> 00:04:07.300 the pandemic as a friend work from home, 00:04:07.300 --> 00:04:10.700 but those Solutions are only as good as your home internet 00:04:10.700 --> 00:04:14.200 access, right? So if you're a working if I mean, 00:04:14.200 --> 00:04:17.000 oh and I T admin or I'm working in the IT department, 00:04:17.000 --> 00:04:21.100 but I've got an employee if you can't even access any of our 00:04:21.100 --> 00:04:24.900 corporate networks through VPN, for example, what am I supposed to 00:04:24.900 --> 00:04:25.000 do? 00:04:26.200 --> 00:04:29.900 Yeah, it's an interesting challenge variety and just to give 00:04:29.900 --> 00:04:31.500 you sense my background before as an analyst. 00:04:31.500 --> 00:04:35.900 Actually. I was in corporate it and I never in my wildest 00:04:35.900 --> 00:04:37.100 dreams that I never imagined. 00:04:37.100 --> 00:04:40.100 I think it would be worried about people at home and how they're connected 00:04:40.100 --> 00:04:42.700 in that was for the axis of luxury. 00:04:42.700 --> 00:04:45.500 Right and if people didn't have reliable access, 00:04:45.500 --> 00:04:46.800 well, they just didn't work from home. 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:47.500 But now it's a necessity. 00:04:47.500 --> 00:04:50.900 I do think there are ways obviously keep are connected 00:04:50.900 --> 00:04:54.300 in vpns and even if they're using satellite access to stuff 00:04:54.300 --> 00:04:58.700 there are ways to optimize that traffic in Riverbend makes 00:04:58.700 --> 00:05:02.100 a cloud accelerator than Alexa Lee remove the number of packets 00:05:02.100 --> 00:05:05.000 on the network obviously with voice and video traffic. 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:06.300 There's not much you can do about it. 00:05:06.300 --> 00:05:10.100 You can't accelerate video traffic because it's real time, 00:05:10.100 --> 00:05:12.000 right? And so the band is the bandwidth. 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:14.600 There are some best practices it capristo. 00:05:14.600 --> 00:05:18.700 You can tell people that if you if you're on a meeting call, 00:05:18.700 --> 00:05:21.300 you know, something like this because you can call and you're 00:05:21.300 --> 00:05:25.500 not I'm presenting or you're not if you're not actually 00:05:25.500 --> 00:05:25.700 speaking. 00:05:26.100 --> 00:05:28.500 Turn your video off and that'll save a lot of bandwidth 00:05:28.500 --> 00:05:31.000 and you can have people monitor at that way. 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:34.200 But if you don't have good access is not a lot you can do 00:05:34.200 --> 00:05:36.300 now, I think from an IT perspective. 00:05:36.300 --> 00:05:39.100 I have heard more companies taking responsibility 00:05:39.100 --> 00:05:40.400 and paint for that. 00:05:40.400 --> 00:05:43.500 They'd be a corporate deals that way I think it's a benefit 00:05:43.500 --> 00:05:46.500 the employer because a lot of the benefits employees had when 00:05:46.500 --> 00:05:48.700 they used to go in the office things like free lunches in the 00:05:48.700 --> 00:05:49.300 gym and stuff. 00:05:49.300 --> 00:05:49.900 Like that's all gone. 00:05:49.900 --> 00:05:54.500 Right? So I ate I do think companies are now looking at other 00:05:54.500 --> 00:05:58.000 ways to attract employees to retain employees and paying for 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:01.500 broadband's one of them and I do think that they can help with 00:06:01.500 --> 00:06:05.400 that. I also think that if they have reliable 4G access, 00:06:05.400 --> 00:06:06.600 maybe they don't have a good wired access. 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:10.300 You can get your mobile hotspot straight the little Verizon 00:06:10.300 --> 00:06:12.400 AT&T T-Mobile 4G cards. 00:06:12.400 --> 00:06:15.100 I personally have one of those because I use it when I can't 00:06:15.100 --> 00:06:19.800 actually get reliable wired access to that provides a good primary 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:22.600 connection where you don't have it but it also an alternative 00:06:22.600 --> 00:06:25.700 connection if your primary goes down so it's it's not like at 00:06:25.700 --> 00:06:30.400 2 Oshkosh and there are some places where you can supplemented 00:06:30.400 --> 00:06:34.300 with cellular access but you know what to say. 00:06:34.300 --> 00:06:37.900 It's you have to handle each one on a case-by-case basis a few 00:06:37.900 --> 00:06:40.900 thousands of employees that spouse is a man hours that you saw 00:06:40.900 --> 00:06:46.600 the employee or for the individual student. 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:51.200 The oldest really isn't on them to be able to do you know sneak 00:06:51.200 --> 00:06:56.600 out their own wireless connection because sometimes they either 00:06:56.600 --> 00:06:58.900 like I mentioned at the start of this video, 00:06:58.900 --> 00:07:02.800 they either simply can't afford it or they're just aren't a 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:04.400 lot of options in their area. 00:07:04.400 --> 00:07:07.400 So this is me before apps like a two-part a little bit of a 00:07:07.400 --> 00:07:11.000 loaded question, but I think that in general whose responsibility 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:16.400 is it to ensure that people have reliable internet access. 00:07:16.400 --> 00:07:19.700 Is it an ISP problem or is it the institutions that require 00:07:19.700 --> 00:07:24.500 at how can they sort of Juggle that it's hard for? 00:07:24.500 --> 00:07:25.000 Me, too? 00:07:26.100 --> 00:07:29.200 Because those companies run his businesses great and if you look 00:07:29.200 --> 00:07:31.900 at the way the phone system was built that we had an app called 00:07:31.900 --> 00:07:33.300 The Universal Services act. 00:07:33.300 --> 00:07:36.700 They guaranteed reliable phone service to everybody in the country. 00:07:36.700 --> 00:07:42.300 And so if you were seabra lilac clickbetter North Pittsburgh 00:07:42.300 --> 00:07:44.600 Telecom or something you got subsidized from the government 00:07:44.600 --> 00:07:47.600 to build up the phone network because delivering phone service 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:51.400 to community with 10 people with a lot more expensive a lot less 00:07:51.400 --> 00:07:54.000 profitable than delivering phone service to a community 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:54.600 with a million people. 00:07:54.600 --> 00:07:57.800 Right? And so if I'm an ISP and I have to go in through 00:07:57.800 --> 00:08:00.300 the rural areas is not a lot in it for me to do. 00:08:00.300 --> 00:08:02.800 So, right so unless there's some government-funded 00:08:02.800 --> 00:08:06.000 end and just see how since the pandemic that start we have had 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:09.700 a number of Rural Broadband funding programs for the place. 00:08:09.700 --> 00:08:12.100 But now it's up to the ice beasts to go take advantage 00:08:12.100 --> 00:08:12.800 of those programs. 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:15.600 So it's hard for me to put it on the is PMS the money's there 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:19.100 are the institutions that require it. 00:08:19.100 --> 00:08:22.500 Could you more I think when you come to when it comes to Schools, 00:08:22.500 --> 00:08:24.000 they're requiring students to work from home. 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:25.900 They're fine teachers teach from home. 00:08:26.100 --> 00:08:31.100 Well, those kind of cases they should be looking at what kind 00:08:31.100 --> 00:08:33.800 of internet access they have if they don't have high quality 00:08:33.800 --> 00:08:35.900 one. Maybe they can find a co-working space or something 00:08:35.900 --> 00:08:38.800 nearby that they can you go to something like that because 00:08:38.800 --> 00:08:41.900 I think I do think that you know, 00:08:41.900 --> 00:08:47.600 when you get down into this problem, 00:08:47.600 --> 00:08:50.600 I think it's up to the school in to make sure that everybody 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:51.800 has good enough access. 00:08:51.800 --> 00:08:54.400 They can be educated property of the wave increases big division 00:08:54.400 --> 00:08:59.800 manager. I think that is where if your employees don't have 00:08:59.800 --> 00:09:03.200 reliable axis, you need to go do some work and do some research 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:04.100 and find out what's available. 00:09:04.100 --> 00:09:07.500 Even if it's satellite access, right satellite is often known 00:09:07.500 --> 00:09:09.200 as the internet access of Last Resort, 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:11.200 but if there isn't anything else available, 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:14.700 yeah, it's expensive on the house. 00:09:14.700 --> 00:09:18.700 But that may be the difference in being mean to have an employee 00:09:18.700 --> 00:09:21.900 this productive in one that's not so did it's not there's 00:09:21.900 --> 00:09:25.700 no single person or single entity whose responsibility 00:09:26.100 --> 00:09:30.000 It's really a combination of those and it's Franklin situationally 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:40.200 dependent and if if you know providing internet access to rural 00:09:40.200 --> 00:09:43.600 communities, for example, or you know, perhaps offering 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:48.900 discounts or subsidies for lower-income communities are families 00:09:48.900 --> 00:09:52.200 people who would need internet access isn't always profitable 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:53.500 for the isps. 00:09:53.500 --> 00:09:56.800 What options did these communities currently have? 00:09:56.800 --> 00:09:58.800 Like if I got to work from home if I've got to learn from 00:09:58.800 --> 00:10:01.100 home, what should I be looking at? 00:10:02.400 --> 00:10:09.400 Yeah, well, so the rorem there are programs in place for the 00:10:09.400 --> 00:10:13.900 eyes. This year the government put in place of 5G fund for Rural 00:10:13.900 --> 00:10:17.000 America spend up at 9 billion dollars for the next 10 years 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:21.500 then 2019. There was a secure and trusted Communications 00:10:21.500 --> 00:10:25.600 Network act that will kick in a billion dollars over 10 years 00:10:25.600 --> 00:10:28.200 for World Broadband in 2019. 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:30.000 There was something called the art off the world digital 00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:33.800 opportunity fund which brings 20 billion dollars in two phases 00:10:33.800 --> 00:10:36.800 that the FCC will fund for Rural Broadband. 00:10:36.800 --> 00:10:38.100 So there are programs out there. 00:10:38.100 --> 00:10:43.100 I think one of the issues is that a lot of times these programs 00:10:43.100 --> 00:10:46.600 are the funding is so complicated to get that when you're 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:49.600 sure if you're you know Comcast to Verizon or something 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:52.500 you have the Personnel to go fill out all the forms and stuff. 00:10:52.500 --> 00:10:55.700 But if you're a small I left her a small bribe and operator 00:10:55.700 --> 00:10:59.300 in the middle of you know, some remote area you may not have 00:10:59.300 --> 00:11:01.500 the technical wherewithal to fill these things out. 00:11:01.500 --> 00:11:01.800 So 00:11:02.400 --> 00:11:09.500 How to make it easier I think outside of that communities 00:11:09.500 --> 00:11:10.400 can actually look at it. 00:11:10.400 --> 00:11:13.800 If you look at a lot of third world countries communities 00:11:13.800 --> 00:11:17.900 will form cooperatives to bring in a high-speed connection 00:11:17.900 --> 00:11:20.700 into the community and then distribute access from there. 00:11:20.700 --> 00:11:23.400 And even if it's the point of you have to go to a common 00:11:23.400 --> 00:11:26.100 area to work and with the Kobe that might be yet. 00:11:26.100 --> 00:11:28.900 Maybe you have to maintain social distance and all that but I do 00:11:28.900 --> 00:11:30.500 think the communities could look at doing that. 00:11:30.500 --> 00:11:34.400 I might My Home Country Canada, there's a lot of communities 00:11:34.400 --> 00:11:36.700 that do that where they pull fiberglass the schools. 00:11:36.700 --> 00:11:42.500 The schools are wired up in the school plaid access to the community. 00:11:42.500 --> 00:11:44.200 So there are different ways around that. 00:11:44.200 --> 00:11:47.000 I think the the communities that don't have it really should 00:11:47.000 --> 00:11:49.500 be looking at doing some sort of Cooperative program is very 00:11:49.500 --> 00:11:54.000 common in the and underserved countries to do that side ideal, 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:55.300 but at least it's a solution. 00:11:56.100 --> 00:12:00.000 Right and another solution that you mention of course is 5G and 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:01.700 I think so often. 00:12:01.700 --> 00:12:04.800 I know certainly here on our channel to discuss it at length 00:12:04.800 --> 00:12:11.100 and a bit of a caveat with 5G has always been yellow be awesome, 00:12:11.100 --> 00:12:13.200 but it's not really here right now. 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:15.300 And even when it is here, you know, 00:12:15.300 --> 00:12:18.700 there's going to be a Associated fees with carriers and making 00:12:18.700 --> 00:12:23.200 sure that you have an actual physical device that uses 5G. 00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:26.100 So I'm curious a little bit. 00:12:26.100 --> 00:12:29.100 I was you want to hear about how 5G could help in these circumstances, 00:12:29.100 --> 00:12:34.100 but I'm curious to for enroll at in rural areas. 00:12:34.100 --> 00:12:38.800 But 5G is going to be huge but for someone who like I've said 00:12:38.800 --> 00:12:41.200 from the beginning simply can't afford Wi-Fi. 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:45.000 What are the unique hurdles associated with 5G? 00:12:46.400 --> 00:12:48.000 If I viewed interesting fruits of all, 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:50.700 if you look at the coverage maps on the mobile operators 00:12:50.700 --> 00:12:53.000 a lot of the Resurrection left out of it, 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:55.600 right? So you see the T-Mobile map that's all pink. 00:12:55.600 --> 00:12:59.100 And then there's a bunch of empty spots and the empty spots of 00:12:59.100 --> 00:12:59.800 the rule area. 00:12:59.800 --> 00:13:03.900 So assuming that we get 5G into those areas then again, 00:13:03.900 --> 00:13:07.400 this is the way we're from a community perspective from a Cooperative 00:13:07.400 --> 00:13:09.300 perspective. They were to go to a mobile operator. 00:13:09.300 --> 00:13:12.400 It might convince him to put a tower and there are you but you're 00:13:12.400 --> 00:13:15.500 right there is a cost associated with that although generally 00:13:15.500 --> 00:13:21.400 when I look at the pricing proposed pricing from from the mobile 00:13:21.400 --> 00:13:26.700 operators 5G isn't likely to be any more expensive than Forgiato 00:13:26.700 --> 00:13:28.900 think they're making me more money off 5G therefore but they're 00:13:28.900 --> 00:13:30.300 spending a bunch of money to do that. 00:13:30.300 --> 00:13:33.000 I think they'll try and sell you the services like security 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:37.700 and things I do think that them 5G in some ways is getting 00:13:37.700 --> 00:13:38.800 easier the boys. 00:13:38.800 --> 00:13:40.600 I think if you look at the equipment manufacturer's 00:13:40.600 --> 00:13:44.600 the fact that we have software-defined networking transport 00:13:44.600 --> 00:13:47.600 today makes it easier to accept Networks in two more places 00:13:47.600 --> 00:13:52.000 and then the cloud the 5G infrastructure is actually build 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:56.100 cloud-native now. So these things can be deployed right from 00:13:56.100 --> 00:13:59.900 the cloud and and do you need less equipment down on the ground 00:13:59.900 --> 00:14:02.500 cuz more of more of that stuff done in the closet. 00:14:02.500 --> 00:14:06.400 So I think there is innovation coming and you know that when 00:14:06.400 --> 00:14:12.700 you combine those things with open access your license spectrum 00:14:12.700 --> 00:14:16.700 and things like that, it's some fives you spell there is some 00:14:16.700 --> 00:14:18.500 5G Spectrum. It's completely open. 00:14:18.500 --> 00:14:22.300 It does remove the clothes nature friend that I I do think that 00:14:22.300 --> 00:14:28.600 we will likely see some alternative carriers pop-up Regional 00:14:28.600 --> 00:14:32.100 ones that offer CB arrested services that I think can be used 00:14:32.100 --> 00:14:32.800 in rural areas. 00:14:32.800 --> 00:14:39.600 So things are coming, but I don't think the other than cost 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:40.500 will be a huge Turtle. 00:14:40.500 --> 00:14:42.500 I think if you can afford a mobile phone today, 00:14:42.500 --> 00:14:45.500 you should be able to afford a 5G one down the road. 00:14:46.400 --> 00:14:48.900 And then you could actually use that as Wi-Fi hotspot if you 00:14:48.900 --> 00:14:52.800 wanted to but but it will take longer to reach the rural areas 00:14:52.800 --> 00:14:55.500 that will let you know 30 NFL cities, 00:14:55.500 --> 00:15:01.400 right? So I'm curious to shifting back to a bit of how this 00:15:01.400 --> 00:15:03.700 is going to be known Enterprise issue. 00:15:03.700 --> 00:15:08.500 Perhaps is what the longer term effects of the lack of Internet 00:15:08.500 --> 00:15:11.400 access really means we didn't you just mention correctly. 00:15:11.400 --> 00:15:15.000 So at the beginning of our video here is that this is not a 00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:18.700 new problem. It's just especially Amplified because now we all 00:15:18.700 --> 00:15:21.900 need to be home and we can't go to the common places that probably 00:15:21.900 --> 00:15:24.900 wants her light on for Reliable internet access, 00:15:24.900 --> 00:15:25.800 you know, we can't go to work. 00:15:25.800 --> 00:15:26.400 We can't go to school. 00:15:26.400 --> 00:15:30.300 We can't go to Starbucks, wherever you're going the library 00:15:30.300 --> 00:15:33.100 co-working spaces. We can't go there anymore. 00:15:33.100 --> 00:15:37.500 So what are some of the longer-term implications of the lack 00:15:37.500 --> 00:15:40.500 of Internet access and if you know underserved communities 00:15:40.500 --> 00:15:42.000 don't receive it. 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:43.900 What could that mean for the future? 00:15:43.900 --> 00:15:45.700 What could that mean for Enterprises? 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:50.600 Yeah, it's an interesting question because if you're a c i o r 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:53.600 a business. You might think we're do I care about the rule areas. 00:15:53.600 --> 00:15:58.700 Right? But one of the one of the big lessons that we've learned 00:15:58.700 --> 00:16:00.700 from covid-19 don't need to be in the office. 00:16:00.700 --> 00:16:03.800 And so there's many companies you like Twitter's announces 00:16:03.800 --> 00:16:05.500 like benzo announces, right? 00:16:05.500 --> 00:16:06.600 They're not going back to the office. 00:16:06.600 --> 00:16:10.400 If you're staying indefinitely remote and what are the advantages 00:16:10.400 --> 00:16:11.400 they talk about it. 00:16:11.400 --> 00:16:13.700 They can hire Talent from anywhere, right? 00:16:13.700 --> 00:16:18.200 So that's true kind of if they have good internet access. 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:21.400 So companies might be looking at trying to expand their work 00:16:21.400 --> 00:16:25.400 for it. We've already heard about this math of Exodus from cities 00:16:25.400 --> 00:16:27.900 are in a people have an expensive cities New York, 00:16:27.900 --> 00:16:29.000 San Francisco place like that. 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:32.300 People are moving and they're moving out the watch. 00:16:32.300 --> 00:16:34.300 Henna, Idaho the Carolinas things like that. 00:16:34.300 --> 00:16:37.300 And so if your company in your trying to hire the best people 00:16:37.300 --> 00:16:42.300 and that you hire somebody and they can't collaborate 00:16:42.300 --> 00:16:45.300 property with your company over video than that investment 00:16:45.300 --> 00:16:45.900 was wasted or 00:16:46.600 --> 00:16:49.600 That writes the news that immediate issue I think longer-term. 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:52.200 What were at risk at here. 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:56.100 Is this already a big economic divide in this country and that 00:16:56.100 --> 00:17:00.000 economic divide. Jeremy has led to an education and I think 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:03.100 I lack of quality Broadband to create a bigger one, 00:17:03.100 --> 00:17:06.500 which means the hiring pool that you have in the future because 00:17:06.500 --> 00:17:10.600 much smaller because the underserved communities didn't get the 00:17:10.600 --> 00:17:14.100 right education and place in those those kids didn't go to the 00:17:14.100 --> 00:17:16.000 better schools and things like that. 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:19.300 So I think chrisa a much smaller pool of people if you looking 00:17:19.300 --> 00:17:21.400 right now at this distance the u.s. 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:24.900 Is already in the bottom half of the world when it comes to stem 00:17:24.900 --> 00:17:27.800 right which is frankly embarrassing cuz this is where all the 00:17:27.800 --> 00:17:31.700 Innovation comes from and I think we're putting that at risk 00:17:31.700 --> 00:17:35.800 and so I think they're I'd like to see more Business Leaders 00:17:35.800 --> 00:17:39.900 Step Up. We've seen them step up in the areas of univ inclusion 00:17:39.900 --> 00:17:41.200 diversity things like that. 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:43.900 This this is something that's really flown under the radar. 00:17:43.900 --> 00:17:46.100 But I think it's something that that the business community. 00:17:46.600 --> 00:17:52.000 Rally around and stuff here you so much for calling in and chatting 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:52.500 with me about this. 00:17:52.500 --> 00:17:56.400 It is a certainty of pervasive issue and also certainly 00:17:56.400 --> 00:17:59.700 one that is not going to go away but hopefully there are going 00:17:59.700 --> 00:18:01.800 to be some tangible Solutions soon. 00:18:01.800 --> 00:18:05.700 So it just makes everything makes you no internet access should 00:18:05.700 --> 00:18:07.600 not be it should be Equitable for everyone. 00:18:07.600 --> 00:18:09.300 So I really appreciate you calling and chatting. 00:18:09.300 --> 00:18:11.900 Thank you. Yeah, it was John Chambers. 00:18:11.900 --> 00:18:15.100 I think that said way back in the day that it was built the 00:18:15.100 --> 00:18:18.300 internet and education with the two ready for Elijah in the world. 00:18:18.300 --> 00:18:22.100 So we have all the Educational Tools but we still don't have 00:18:22.100 --> 00:18:25.400 internet everywhere on that sub, you know Frank over 20 years 00:18:25.400 --> 00:18:31.200 after he said that so it's a form of government in our business 00:18:31.200 --> 00:18:34.400 isn't really everybody to solve but I think we're focused 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:34.900 on weekend. 00:18:35.600 --> 00:18:38.000 Absolutely perfect closing out. 00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:40.000 So thank you so much again for calling and I really appreciate 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:43.600 it and thank you all so much for watching episode of today 00:18:43.600 --> 00:18:45.100 and Tack. 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