WEBVTT 00:00:10.300 --> 00:00:13.300 This year we have been challenged as a global Community 00:00:13.300 --> 00:00:15.800 reminding us again. 00:00:15.800 --> 00:00:19.400 That is not a viable business in a declining environment. 00:00:20.700 --> 00:00:23.700 Taking better care of our people and our planet. 00:00:24.900 --> 00:00:28.800 admission to the c-suite as top-level priorities 00:00:30.100 --> 00:00:33.100 because sustainability is smart business. 00:00:33.100 --> 00:00:39.200 That is no turning back only forward join us in rewriting 00:00:39.200 --> 00:00:44.600 the future as we guide you on the path to real change through 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:49.500 sustainable business practices that protect our planet our people 00:00:49.500 --> 00:00:50.900 together. 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:00.000 Welcome and thank you for joining. 00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:03.700 What I know is going to be a really interesting panel discussion 00:01:03.700 --> 00:01:06.500 from commitment to action. 00:01:07.600 --> 00:01:11.500 I David Sproul Deloitte Global deputy chief executive. 00:01:11.500 --> 00:01:13.400 I've always been a big believer. 00:01:13.400 --> 00:01:16.900 The business has a responsibility here. 00:01:16.900 --> 00:01:21.700 We're good in the world did genuinely put profit of purpose 00:01:21.700 --> 00:01:22.500 in balance. 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:29.200 Climate change is at the top of the agenda for oci believe 00:01:29.200 --> 00:01:30.100 she seems lately. 00:01:30.100 --> 00:01:33.000 I'm thrilled to be joined by two other Business Leaders. 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:34.400 Why no share the same sentiment. 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:37.900 Let's introduce them first. 00:01:37.900 --> 00:01:39.100 We have Judith Bachelor. 00:01:39.100 --> 00:01:43.100 She's the director of corporate responsibility sustainability 00:01:43.100 --> 00:01:46.500 and public affairs and Sainsbury's one of the UK's largest 00:01:46.500 --> 00:01:47.400 racism. 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:51.800 Amylose a joint by Rebecca mamas Chief sustainability 00:01:51.800 --> 00:01:56.700 officer Unilever Jennifer back on De Lys you both join me today 00:01:56.700 --> 00:02:00.900 to share your perspectives on high Business Leaders are responding 00:02:00.900 --> 00:02:06.700 to the expectations of stakeholders hospital employees 00:02:06.700 --> 00:02:11.500 in in MTG Platinum it and I'm going to just kick things off with 00:02:11.500 --> 00:02:16.500 a datapoint from the recent Deloitte survey climate check in with 00:02:16.500 --> 00:02:22.400 a 750 executive slightly Evan this report 82% of Executives 00:02:22.400 --> 00:02:27.600 that their organisations concerned very concerned by climate change 00:02:27.600 --> 00:02:29.400 to you. 00:02:30.300 --> 00:02:33.200 Is give me about focus on constant ability. 00:02:34.100 --> 00:02:39.100 Sandy wrongfully there's a lot of sentiment among commentators 00:02:39.100 --> 00:02:40.400 journalists the media. 00:02:41.600 --> 00:02:43.700 The business Community is all talk. 00:02:43.700 --> 00:02:47.000 No action. So what are your views on that? 00:02:47.000 --> 00:02:54.400 I'm Rebecca. Maybe we stop with you after acceleration 00:02:54.400 --> 00:02:59.600 in in recent years and she perished MTG is my oldies topic 00:02:59.600 --> 00:03:04.100 noticed, but the widest sustainability agenda has become mainstream. 00:03:04.100 --> 00:03:20.900 We seen it when you drop off a birthday recently Shana Brown 00:03:20.900 --> 00:03:24.800 versus Trump a prescribed 135 Sutton Foster's and they what they 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:26.300 don't put out front in sometime. I 00:03:26.300 --> 00:03:30.700 think we sent it using either. 00:03:30.700 --> 00:03:34.300 I'm reading taking Arsenal not since the company. 00:03:41.500 --> 00:03:47.200 You know if you passed his friends sometimes a great wife is quickie 00:03:47.200 --> 00:03:50.600 on climate change in particular. 00:03:50.600 --> 00:03:56.200 I'm hugely accelerated up by the time. 00:03:56.200 --> 00:04:00.100 McCann realization of how much nature and Society all completely 00:04:00.100 --> 00:04:03.900 into Wavin. Send me at Unity by we make it look the Punjab 00:04:03.900 --> 00:04:08.400 election in 10 min are in business with a hundred percent 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:11.100 renewable energy across the operation. 00:04:11.100 --> 00:04:13.700 It saved a lot of money a Brazilian. 00:04:13.700 --> 00:04:17.100 You're a butt in pounds since 2008. 00:04:17.100 --> 00:04:20.300 This is about business as well as the right thing. 00:04:20.300 --> 00:04:25.300 We were just don't take a waste of time by Nadine 19th 2008. 00:04:25.300 --> 00:04:29.900 I mean really bass recently House of climate action plan. 00:04:29.900 --> 00:04:35.600 It was taking up to an advisory if I stay or AGM and knocking 00:04:35.600 --> 00:04:40.500 out short medium and long-term goal Achievers climate Target. 00:04:41.500 --> 00:04:46.700 About me not dead right across the operations by 20 right away 00:04:46.700 --> 00:05:00.500 from to buy 2039 gave me to the cleaning products Bailey station 00:05:00.500 --> 00:05:02.300 three just curious time. 00:05:02.300 --> 00:05:06.700 We stepped out and how far you so bored of us by 2025. 00:05:06.700 --> 00:05:11.500 Do you understand that there is some skepticism. 00:05:11.500 --> 00:05:19.800 I know that wasn't the world's biggest Cooper to send that there 00:05:19.800 --> 00:05:22.400 a Target which is pretty great program. 00:05:22.400 --> 00:05:27.500 Means that we still got a full fix to go but I can company 00:05:27.500 --> 00:05:28.300 to waking up to that. 00:05:28.300 --> 00:05:31.100 We see not what they like to see the bike and administration 00:05:31.100 --> 00:05:32.600 of Estates 300 business. 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:34.400 Just calling on the Presidents Cup. 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:43.900 Rebecca thank you in the reception in that serve. 00:05:43.900 --> 00:05:53.500 I'm into the check survey feedback is you point we know that 00:05:53.500 --> 00:05:57.400 some skepticism that Judith maybe you could tell us from the 00:05:57.400 --> 00:06:02.400 same three points of view to dry climate action in the spark plug 00:06:02.400 --> 00:06:08.400 change in doing a Rosa trying to express that escaped 00:06:08.400 --> 00:06:09.100 in the summer. 00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:18.300 But like Rebecca that there's a lot going on and you can see 00:06:18.300 --> 00:06:22.000 that in the commitments that people have made and some of the 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:26.200 actions that are being made but I can't think one of the two 00:06:26.200 --> 00:06:30.000 key things in all of this is a lot of the action that's taking 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:35.200 place so far is in companies own operations because those are 00:06:35.200 --> 00:06:36.900 the things that's easy to fix. 00:06:36.900 --> 00:06:41.100 So whether that's a decarbonisation up your energy or heat or 00:06:41.100 --> 00:06:44.700 Refrigeration what y'all doing with lighting and all the other 00:06:44.700 --> 00:06:51.300 things transport electric vehicles particularly customer-facing 00:06:51.300 --> 00:06:56.400 sings the all customer-facing that we were working on require 00:06:56.400 --> 00:07:01.900 us to work across a long and sometimes complex Stanley you changed 00:07:01.900 --> 00:07:05.700 because we're going right back to agriculture upstream and then 00:07:05.700 --> 00:07:10.200 trying to influence consumers Downstream, and that's difficult 00:07:10.200 --> 00:07:13.300 so I can understand why people 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:15.500 But there isn't much progress. 00:07:15.500 --> 00:07:20.200 We do know though that there is a massive consumer their moms 00:07:20.200 --> 00:07:25.900 for those things and that's all the motivation for a business 00:07:25.900 --> 00:07:26.900 to do the right thing. 00:07:26.900 --> 00:07:29.900 But all customers I would say though, 00:07:29.900 --> 00:07:35.400 but as you progress along this journey to NetZero one of the 00:07:35.400 --> 00:07:39.900 things that is really over this is the very complicated 00:07:39.900 --> 00:07:42.700 and you have lots of. 00:07:42.700 --> 00:07:46.700 And I think one of the things that that we've learned in that 00:07:46.700 --> 00:07:51.400 Journey with the complicated evolving evolving data, 00:07:51.400 --> 00:07:53.300 so the more information you got the more, 00:07:53.300 --> 00:07:58.100 you know is the actually it requires a great to live degree 00:07:58.100 --> 00:08:03.400 of collaboration. And therefore you cannot see Dr. 00:08:03.400 --> 00:08:04.600 Things in isolation. 00:08:04.600 --> 00:08:06.200 Do you have to drive things together? 00:08:06.200 --> 00:08:12.100 And as you know, bracing is easily said and difficult to do in 00:08:12.100 --> 00:08:13.200 practice, but also 00:08:14.000 --> 00:08:19.600 I think everyone should feel really reassured that's all of us, 00:08:19.600 --> 00:08:23.000 you know, whether it's usually the same Breeze in the broader 00:08:23.000 --> 00:08:28.300 system is working hard together with coalitions of Action 00:08:28.300 --> 00:08:33.200 Coalition of the Willing coalitions of the ambitious to really 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:36.300 work together because of course weather is climate change, 00:08:36.300 --> 00:08:39.800 whether it's the nature prices that we're experiencing 00:08:39.800 --> 00:08:42.700 these very real emergencies. 00:08:42.700 --> 00:08:46.000 They know no Geographic boundaries. 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:49.900 So what does that joke, Rafi is sainsbury shops and stalls 00:08:49.900 --> 00:08:53.100 and I'll Supply chainsaw Unilever sold those boundaries 00:08:53.100 --> 00:08:57.900 all the Joker face of the world those things disappear 00:08:57.900 --> 00:09:01.100 because I see these just all Global problems that require 00:09:01.100 --> 00:09:01.800 us to collaborate. 00:09:01.800 --> 00:09:05.900 I say I think people should feel reassured that weight during 00:09:05.900 --> 00:09:10.800 those things, but it is very complicated and managing the trade-off 00:09:10.800 --> 00:09:13.700 between whether it's water with it. 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:18.200 Greenhouse gas emissions where is plastic packaging all of these 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:23.500 things require us to be very resourceful and considered 00:09:23.500 --> 00:09:28.200 and if you look at any of the ones that rock that everyone 00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:31.000 would say I told you we know how to do half of this the 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:34.300 other half is going to be research. 00:09:34.300 --> 00:09:35.700 It's going to be Innovation. 00:09:35.700 --> 00:09:40.200 It's going to be seeing what works in this but the suddenly 00:09:40.200 --> 00:09:51.700 No Lack of commitment across the sector nice of you that every 00:09:51.700 --> 00:09:57.300 action is real genuine action taking place to one of the things 00:09:57.300 --> 00:09:58.100 in the subway. 00:10:00.500 --> 00:10:05.600 Was that I have a 2/3 of the respondents cubed to slow down 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:09.100 climate action. I'm interested in both your perspective 00:10:09.100 --> 00:10:10.800 of the damage of cool. 00:10:10.800 --> 00:10:18.900 Everyone's have to replay an impetus weather has cools that 00:10:18.900 --> 00:10:27.600 I'm dying over the past everyone loves businesses. 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:30.200 At least I could say no in their employees are in operation 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:32.700 thinking about that Supply shed. 00:10:32.700 --> 00:10:35.400 You dealing with the immediate shock of the pandemic, 00:10:35.400 --> 00:10:38.900 but I find it would get you a new ready mine. 00:10:38.900 --> 00:10:43.100 But lately that people wouldn't actually continue to realize 00:10:43.100 --> 00:10:47.500 now even more than before the impact of a Gable crisis and seeing 00:10:47.500 --> 00:10:52.600 everything it was assigned to millions of jobs and livelihood 00:10:52.600 --> 00:10:58.300 that risk terrible terrible house prices people dying just so 00:10:58.300 --> 00:11:01.700 hugely upsetting and I'm an environmental perspective 00:11:01.700 --> 00:11:05.100 never seen an increase for example and a piece of plastic. 00:11:05.100 --> 00:11:12.400 The guy is prevention is fall back to them because this is a crisis. 00:11:12.400 --> 00:11:18.800 Wow, the climate crisis to take action now and we have until 00:11:18.800 --> 00:11:24.300 I'd like to thank the bull does the climate crisis in isolation 00:11:24.300 --> 00:11:28.200 play everything that's happening on nature around by diversity 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:35.100 around Migration by electrical interconnected together really 00:11:35.100 --> 00:11:36.800 now is the time. 00:11:36.800 --> 00:11:38.900 He double down and and and take action. 00:11:38.900 --> 00:11:45.200 I might even if they were switched on to being able to to to 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:49.300 project 235 years into the future if you don't take action 00:11:49.300 --> 00:11:53.200 Now set me thinking from a can she look at the stock that it 00:11:53.200 --> 00:11:55.600 doesn't work in in pots from climate change in thinking 00:11:55.600 --> 00:11:58.400 please don't flip out how great season 2 changing around the 00:11:58.400 --> 00:11:58.800 well, 00:12:00.400 --> 00:12:09.000 Aquaculture, you're changing water availability in Brazil 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:13.100 in California that impacts the way the people living life impact 00:12:13.100 --> 00:12:15.400 the way the people who sent me these products, 00:12:15.400 --> 00:12:17.200 for example, if you leave before Friday, 00:12:17.200 --> 00:12:21.500 whether it's to do laundry cleaning weather is Cookie get ready 00:12:21.500 --> 00:12:24.900 thinking about that combines with the Lively has the people 00:12:24.900 --> 00:12:28.000 who was very much impacted day today by climate change. 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:30.000 So I thought thinking about the phone message. 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:33.500 I got my internet connection between between station and environmental. 00:12:33.500 --> 00:12:40.300 He wouldn't Advocate holding off a school I think is why I gained 00:12:40.300 --> 00:12:44.200 ion engine to my face done to displease around ESG investing 00:12:44.200 --> 00:12:47.700 and suddenly we know the company seems to be accelerated 00:12:47.700 --> 00:12:51.400 to move on to the fgn greater importance than Khe sanh company 00:12:51.400 --> 00:12:54.900 for the able to show that can survive make it to show improved 00:12:54.900 --> 00:12:58.300 by battat NC State Mobility in the long time machine. 00:12:58.300 --> 00:13:00.200 Fidelity recent where the stuff is. 00:13:00.400 --> 00:13:04.400 Life without faith company does battery RC racing like crazy 00:13:04.400 --> 00:13:06.100 market for the Tennessee. 00:13:06.100 --> 00:13:07.400 How far back to drink. 00:13:07.400 --> 00:13:08.000 I'm done there. 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:15.200 Was you to slow down Etc as you think about those actions, 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:17.900 you've already got the reality. Is 00:13:17.900 --> 00:13:21.200 it supposed to become even more focused because I think 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:25.900 what the pandemic has shown us is what we're capable spaced 00:13:25.900 --> 00:13:27.700 individually as a business. 00:13:27.700 --> 00:13:31.200 So Sainsbury's have delivered throughout the coronavirus 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:35.300 in feeding the nation staying open keeping our colleague 00:13:35.300 --> 00:13:38.900 safekeeping AllCast was safe doubling our online deliveries 00:13:38.900 --> 00:13:40.100 hold of those kinds of things. 00:13:40.100 --> 00:13:43.400 I'm sure that's what we're capable of us a business. 00:13:43.400 --> 00:13:46.600 But also she knows what we're capable of and collaboration 00:13:46.600 --> 00:13:50.800 with others and in the way the government and the private 00:13:50.800 --> 00:13:53.700 sex to have worked together throughout the coronavirus 00:13:53.700 --> 00:13:57.600 to keep the nation's bad has been exemplary, 00:13:57.600 --> 00:14:02.600 I think an impressive It's been used to Lawton. 00:14:02.600 --> 00:14:05.600 It feels a bit like an understatement given where we are going 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:06.100 to look this. 00:14:06.100 --> 00:14:10.500 But I think if you take for example this shielding at the clinic 00:14:10.500 --> 00:14:16.000 a vulnerable within the spaces 36 hours every single retailer 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:20.300 in in the UK shows that online information with a independent 00:14:20.300 --> 00:14:23.900 said party those dates of points will cross-reference 00:14:23.900 --> 00:14:27.400 with the clinically ponderable that have been identified 00:14:27.400 --> 00:14:33.900 with 1.7 million people with their NHS records all in the public interest 00:14:33.900 --> 00:14:40.000 and then 65% of those 1.7 million what identifies 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:44.400 unprioritized online shopping all in the space to say it's 36 00:14:44.400 --> 00:14:50.600 hours that is a piece of data sharing work in a pre competitive 00:14:50.600 --> 00:14:55.000 environment with government facilitating not in the public 00:14:55.000 --> 00:14:59.500 interest and if it stops in the public interest and certainly 00:14:59.500 --> 00:15:04.900 The Climb Garmin to crises definitely in the public interest 00:15:04.900 --> 00:15:06.300 for us to sort. 00:15:06.300 --> 00:15:10.400 So I think is really good examples of what happens over the last 00:15:10.400 --> 00:15:13.800 year that should give us confidence that we can work differently. 00:15:13.800 --> 00:15:19.200 I'm typically power against this additional set of emergencies 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:26.900 and I think it's probably surprising to a soul because if you 00:15:26.900 --> 00:15:29.900 would said to me would you predict that you would work with 00:15:29.900 --> 00:15:34.400 your competitors on government in the way that you have that 00:15:34.400 --> 00:15:36.800 would have been a large stretch my imagination, 00:15:36.800 --> 00:15:39.100 but we showed it supposed to go. 00:15:43.300 --> 00:15:45.900 you normal has to include all greater collaboration 00:15:45.900 --> 00:15:49.900 with us commercial collaboration or with government never say, 00:15:49.900 --> 00:15:58.200 what is the Net Zero goals in put out of there by 00:15:59.400 --> 00:16:06.500 company leaders sack leaders little so more scrutiny SDSU measurements 00:16:06.500 --> 00:16:18.300 from your focus on long-term goals, if a helpful to you or I'm 00:16:18.300 --> 00:16:25.200 helpful in terms of trying to stay focus of the outside question. 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:30.000 David is definitely yes, because I think the most recently 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:35.000 the Becca and I say that because no single person can work this 00:16:35.000 --> 00:16:38.100 out on the road who said it it does require a great degree 00:16:38.100 --> 00:16:44.300 of collaboration and transformation require systems shift. 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:49.400 What open when we talked about the system we didn't identify 00:16:49.400 --> 00:16:54.900 all the stakeholders the required to make that shift and it is 00:16:54.900 --> 00:16:59.100 the ngos. It is the policymakers The Regulators. 00:16:59.100 --> 00:17:01.800 It is competitors working more collaboratively. 00:17:01.800 --> 00:17:08.700 And unless we have the input from all of those stakeholders 00:17:08.700 --> 00:17:09.900 into the debate. 00:17:09.900 --> 00:17:13.100 We will not create the system shift. 00:17:13.100 --> 00:17:16.200 We need to see each other cuz we need to see that quickly 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:22.500 when he says scale and unless we can convene with Ace people 00:17:22.500 --> 00:17:27.000 invest has included because Finance plays a huge role in this 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:30.500 and Investments. I'm with things like the race to trillions 00:17:30.500 --> 00:17:34.700 will play a huge part in this unless we have bought dialogue 00:17:34.700 --> 00:17:39.500 that conversation then we won't move the Payson scale that we 00:17:39.500 --> 00:17:41.400 need to so I welcome it. 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:44.100 I think we will all be the better for it. 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:49.400 The mole that we can create a safe spaces to have those conversations 00:17:49.400 --> 00:17:51.600 and to create. 00:17:51.600 --> 00:17:57.000 I'm system in the room cuz it was the best of operation 00:17:57.000 --> 00:17:58.200 is why we agree with you. 00:17:58.200 --> 00:18:00.900 We will spend that you leave it talk about what we call them 00:18:00.900 --> 00:18:04.300 the multi-stakeholder muddle and I think not face Pastime 00:18:04.300 --> 00:18:08.600 climate really weird thing is from all the different stakeholders 00:18:08.600 --> 00:18:09.900 that you would have talked about. 00:18:09.900 --> 00:18:11.700 Some of them all people is wow, 00:18:11.700 --> 00:18:16.600 really will meet their employee surveys at Unity by pride and 00:18:16.600 --> 00:18:19.900 working for a company to cut sustainability front and center 00:18:19.900 --> 00:18:22.800 dance and I lost him. 00:18:22.800 --> 00:18:26.100 That way we did at the end of last year as to why people 00:18:26.100 --> 00:18:26.800 want to watch it. 00:18:26.800 --> 00:18:30.300 You needed my thing up even more to the four more prominent 00:18:30.300 --> 00:18:31.200 at you when you can. 00:18:31.200 --> 00:18:34.400 And that I'm using if they want to work companies for the taking 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:37.600 action around issues that are important to them definitely 00:18:37.600 --> 00:18:41.100 be seen it was confused as a gay cuz she was wanting to buy 00:18:41.100 --> 00:18:47.900 from companies open organization the brown to record Climate 00:18:47.900 --> 00:18:52.200 weather is around Sasuke's that came out during the time done 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:55.500 act around people taking views on companies and organizations 00:18:55.500 --> 00:18:57.000 as to how they do. 00:18:57.000 --> 00:19:01.700 I think the people in the Appleman study that was dumb reason 00:19:01.700 --> 00:19:05.500 these. They stop using the product of 72 companies that they 00:19:05.500 --> 00:19:08.200 didn't feel what engaging around to stay Independence 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:14.100 Day. I've already told shareholders in an increasing flow of capital 00:19:14.100 --> 00:19:23.600 into ft 5 in pain, but we will take you to an advisory right 00:19:23.600 --> 00:19:24.300 to the Asia. 00:19:24.300 --> 00:19:36.900 Did you just point if this will require a pricing the different 00:19:36.900 --> 00:19:40.900 kind of way it's going to require working pre competitively 00:19:40.900 --> 00:19:43.500 knows things like something that stupid thing is showing the 00:19:43.500 --> 00:19:44.700 first station free. 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:48.400 Don't think of older people watch decent that are imported 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:53.200 rainy and master shift as well to the Future about customers 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:56.700 at at at thanks president that died while continue to we put 00:19:56.700 --> 00:20:01.100 a billion you're a fund out recently to invest in climate 00:20:01.100 --> 00:20:03.500 to Nature's solution to help us reach our Target. 00:20:03.500 --> 00:20:07.100 We're going to bring that to life through the computer based 00:20:07.100 --> 00:20:10.600 marketing the bday the ready for some poultry Ben & Jerry's 00:20:10.600 --> 00:20:22.600 at the house if it's melted is ruin a the importance of climate 00:20:22.600 --> 00:20:26.700 change. What can I do with an individual to make it a friend 00:20:26.700 --> 00:20:35.000 like it and it lost the government just wow DK if he use new 00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:37.900 Greendale, I need a nice steak without welcome greeting 00:20:37.900 --> 00:20:40.700 in pressure from stakeholders to say was great. 00:20:40.700 --> 00:20:41.800 You shut these Target. 00:20:41.800 --> 00:20:43.300 How are you going to deliver them? 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:45.800 I agree with you. 00:20:45.800 --> 00:20:53.400 I understand I can get great but just at the thought of it. 00:20:53.400 --> 00:20:56.500 I just recognizing the need to change. 00:20:56.500 --> 00:21:03.400 What is vice guide based on how they have to approach this really 00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:06.400 embedding. The change is bad because more whatever business 00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:19.800 and thinking about his full name of the one you go to have an 00:21:19.800 --> 00:21:22.800 alarm exactly is your point. 00:21:22.800 --> 00:21:27.000 This is an animal with his nice Pangolin charity initiative. 00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:30.200 Dinner is on the side of it is cool to the business. 00:21:30.200 --> 00:21:34.400 We relaunched a couple of months ago, 00:21:34.400 --> 00:21:36.700 which is all joining the business and sustainability. 00:21:36.700 --> 00:21:40.700 Chucky said I didn't 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:50.100 I would like to thank outdated conversation about what is it sustainable 00:21:50.100 --> 00:21:53.600 estate or is it grey they all they wanted to say, 00:21:53.600 --> 00:21:56.500 you know, I can't you do that by making sure is too thin line 00:21:56.500 --> 00:22:00.000 dance your mistakes and future Foods. 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:03.800 It's about thinking golf thought they still coming to the planet 00:22:03.800 --> 00:22:11.300 could feel how they could be ready thinking about some CMS and 00:22:11.300 --> 00:22:12.200 how they don't feel very well. 00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:16.400 They remain Treet the Diwali except rates after a week was known 00:22:16.400 --> 00:22:24.300 each other since I didn't say I posted it really have to be integrated 00:22:24.300 --> 00:22:25.700 brought the way through the organization. 00:22:25.700 --> 00:22:29.200 So that means into the government government. 00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:33.800 Sorry into the way that you counsel into this structure 00:22:33.800 --> 00:22:35.400 make it possible reward. 00:22:35.400 --> 00:22:38.900 I think not keep me posted this while he was a whole people 00:22:38.900 --> 00:22:42.100 to account within the company and of course when you do order. 00:22:42.100 --> 00:22:44.100 It really help to them change the coach around 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:48.800 Play reprieve in the business case. 00:22:48.800 --> 00:22:59.000 So we don't have time for a grave risk Matrix on I'm actually 00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:02.700 ideally sustainable. She's going to be driving at least two or three 00:23:02.700 --> 00:23:05.400 if they different metrics and it was a big decision 00:23:05.400 --> 00:23:06.100 that we're making. 00:23:07.300 --> 00:23:12.300 Judith you view from Sainsbury's advice you gave to those who 00:23:12.300 --> 00:23:19.700 are in the foothills of this instead. 00:23:19.700 --> 00:23:23.200 I suppose the things that I would add to that is it starts at 00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:27.200 the top so bulls have to lead by example, 00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:31.700 and I think I'm one of the things that we've done it's a massive 00:23:31.700 --> 00:23:37.300 effort in scaling a boat and some of that wisdom to Lewis and 00:23:37.300 --> 00:23:42.700 Lambchop 2-0 and basically bringing all directors up to the same 00:23:42.700 --> 00:23:45.600 level of understanding cuz this is quite Technical and it's 00:23:45.600 --> 00:23:47.600 complicated and its own new. 00:23:47.600 --> 00:23:52.000 So you have to move together on that old people get left behind. 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:56.000 So yes, get the board up speed and get the board leading 00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:56.400 from the front. 00:23:56.400 --> 00:24:00.900 I think Theta is incredibly important because again, 00:24:00.900 --> 00:24:05.800 you have to prioritize where you put your efforts and materiality 00:24:05.800 --> 00:24:07.000 is everything in this. 00:24:07.300 --> 00:24:11.100 Making sure that you're investing in pretty good dates because 00:24:11.100 --> 00:24:14.900 that's the management information that the team's the right 00:24:14.900 --> 00:24:19.800 still operating level needs to be able to make sure they interventions 00:24:19.800 --> 00:24:24.600 that they going to make a timely cost-effective and then print 00:24:24.600 --> 00:24:26.100 the biggest impact. 00:24:26.100 --> 00:24:30.300 I think that's easy to say because again, 00:24:30.300 --> 00:24:32.800 it's difficult in the science is evolving. 00:24:32.800 --> 00:24:37.600 So the other thing I would say is bringing the experts so I'm 00:24:37.600 --> 00:24:42.700 spending a lot of time getting the outside into coming to to all 00:24:42.700 --> 00:24:47.700 levels of management around very specific Topics in the coast 00:24:47.700 --> 00:24:51.900 because we were retailer that sells tens of thousands of products 00:24:51.900 --> 00:24:56.300 tools from all over the world the Rendezvous generalizations. 00:24:56.300 --> 00:25:01.500 So every products every every country is so strong African 00:25:01.500 --> 00:25:06.300 multi. Every situation we find ourselves in is a unique combination. 00:25:07.300 --> 00:25:13.500 Sasa from greenhouse gas emissions to biodiversity. 00:25:13.500 --> 00:25:19.700 All of those things coming together and unless the teams working 00:25:19.700 --> 00:25:20.600 in those areas. 00:25:20.600 --> 00:25:23.200 Dates are they called make informed decisions? 00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:27.400 And I think the other thing is don't underestimate 00:25:27.400 --> 00:25:31.500 thing is I think he's still Gates that said most people overestimate 00:25:31.500 --> 00:25:37.200 technology and Innovation can deliver in the short time but underestimated 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:39.000 in the medium-to-long-term. 00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:43.700 So I think I'm high on the bay sister in the medium-to-long-term. 00:25:43.700 --> 00:25:48.400 You can deliver those things and share success is because 00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:52.100 I think we haven't got time for a suit to individually 00:25:52.100 --> 00:25:57.800 learn by trial-and-error and best practice to what we got is fundamentally 00:25:57.800 --> 00:25:59.700 important in the speakers aside. 00:25:59.700 --> 00:26:00.900 We need to move the paste. 00:26:04.700 --> 00:26:08.100 Isis being a really excellent conversation, thank you for being 00:26:08.100 --> 00:26:12.900 candid and sharing your experience will write my tack and climate 00:26:12.900 --> 00:26:17.300 change and credible sustainable future is a collective 00:26:17.300 --> 00:26:19.200 responsibility. It's not easy. 00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:22.200 But I hope you learn from the feedback in the comments from 00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:24.300 a Judas and Rebecca. 00:26:24.300 --> 00:26:29.100 It can be done stations. 00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:36.900 So thank you for joining us. 00:26:36.900 --> 00:26:39.500 Thank you. Again to Judith the Rebecca Thank You For Business 00:26:39.500 --> 00:26:40.300 Insider.