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What can Kaepernick gain and the NFL lose in this case? 

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Well Kaepernick can gain the possibility of 

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winning a lot of money in damages. If it goes to trial and 

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he's able to establish by clear, convincing evidence that 

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there was collusion against him, he would be awarded 

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compensatory damages which would reflect whatever he 

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would have gotten, had he been signed and not victimized 

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by Collusion, assuming he can show that he was colluded 

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against. But in addition, he could get non- compensatory 

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damages, which are really punitive damages, which would 

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be double compensatory. So he'd be getting three times 

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whatever he would have received. Which means if he 

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would have sign an $ 8 million contract, he'd get 24 million. 

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In damages, so he could get a lot of money, but I think any 

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would argue that he's motivated more by his sense of 

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social justice and that he wants to expose the NFL, that in 

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his view has worked against him and other players that are 

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taking stands on social issues. The NFL of course has to 

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be mindful of this and decide whether it wants to proceed 

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or whether it wants to try to cut a deal. And, Michael, a lot of 

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people have been talking about the possibilities of potential 

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CBA termination coming from this case. How do you see it 

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unfolding? Yeah, Madeline, I mean the reality is that I think 

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it's extremely unlikely to happen, for a variety of reasons. 

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But one is that even if Kapernick can show the requisite 

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colluding, which would require 14 or more teams being 

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part of a conspiracy against him, rather than just a few 

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teams. If he could show that and the NFL PA was 

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given the right to terminate the CVA, the NFL PA would be 

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taking a chance doing that because If the player's 

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association terminates the CBA they would then try to 

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negotiate a new CBA with the league. And it's not clear 

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that the union has thought through what it's strategies 

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would be and wheather they would land in a better place. I 

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mean there's a possibility they could try to negotiate a new 

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CBA. And it's worse for the players. And remember the 

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owners of course are billionaires right? They could go 

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without games being played. They're not really worried 

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about a player strike. So they maybe a right that is unlikely 

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to surface and even if it did I'm very skeptical that the NFL 

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PA would invoke it. Now Micheal, this is obviously a step 

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forward but quickly how long could this drag out? My 

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expectation is that, if there is a trial, it will happen before the 

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end of the year. And then there would be some period of 

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weeks before there is a decision, in all likelihood. So, we 

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could be looking at into next year or early next year. 

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But it really could go beyond that as well, because the 

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losing side That then petition of federal judge to vacate 

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arbitraitors stealing Burbank's award, not would then triger 

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its own trajectory which would involve federal courts. That 

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could last additional weeks, or months. So this could go 

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well in to next year, as we know from the [ UNKNOWN ] 

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Once you start challenging and going to court, it could take 

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years to play out, but unlikely to happen