1 00:00:00,177 --> 00:00:02,250 (upbeat music) 2 00:00:02,250 --> 00:00:04,350 - [Hillary] We got into politics, we got into government, 3 00:00:04,350 --> 00:00:08,250 in part, to solve problems, to open more doors, 4 00:00:08,250 --> 00:00:11,103 to create a different political culture. 5 00:00:13,530 --> 00:00:16,350 We learned the importance of storytelling 6 00:00:16,350 --> 00:00:17,970 and inspiring people 7 00:00:17,970 --> 00:00:21,390 to think beyond their own circumstances. 8 00:00:21,390 --> 00:00:22,223 - [Interviewer] Hillary Clinton 9 00:00:22,223 --> 00:00:25,410 has gotta be one of the gutsiest women in America. 10 00:00:25,410 --> 00:00:28,230 The former secretary of state and presidential candidate 11 00:00:28,230 --> 00:00:29,880 made her mark in politics. 12 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,130 And lately, she's been shifting her attention 13 00:00:32,130 --> 00:00:33,840 to Hidden Light Productions. 14 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,430 A film and TV production company 15 00:00:35,430 --> 00:00:37,260 she started with her daughter, Chelsea. 16 00:00:37,260 --> 00:00:39,180 One of their latest projects is "Gutsy". 17 00:00:39,180 --> 00:00:42,157 A docu-series adapted from their New York Times bestseller, 18 00:00:42,157 --> 00:00:43,800 "The Book of Gutsy Women". 19 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:44,700 In their new show, 20 00:00:44,700 --> 00:00:47,670 Hillary and Chelsea traveled across the U.S. and overseas 21 00:00:47,670 --> 00:00:50,940 interviewing activists, entertainers and community leaders, 22 00:00:50,940 --> 00:00:53,760 whose work has been just as transformative for them 23 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,950 as it's been impactful to others. 24 00:00:55,950 --> 00:00:58,290 I met up with Hillary and Chelsea to talk about "Gutsy" 25 00:00:58,290 --> 00:01:01,020 and whether a show meant to spark conversation, 26 00:01:01,020 --> 00:01:04,383 will be able to do so in an increasingly divided country. 27 00:01:05,250 --> 00:01:07,080 This is the first production of yours 28 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,030 where you two are in front of the camera. 29 00:01:09,030 --> 00:01:09,863 I find that interesting. 30 00:01:09,863 --> 00:01:12,300 Because as hosts, I mean, you are interviewing these women, 31 00:01:12,300 --> 00:01:13,770 you are stepping into the worlds, 32 00:01:13,770 --> 00:01:14,940 you're getting your hands dirty. 33 00:01:14,940 --> 00:01:17,340 What made you want to be the hosts? 34 00:01:17,340 --> 00:01:18,840 - [Hillary] It was outside my comfort zone. 35 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,720 I'll be really honest with you here. 36 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,600 - I mean, you wear a clown nose at one point. (laughs) 37 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,700 - [Hillary] The things I did on this show 38 00:01:26,700 --> 00:01:27,600 that I never-- 39 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,510 Not only had done before, but ever thought I would do. 40 00:01:30,510 --> 00:01:33,033 And the clown nose ranks right up there. 41 00:01:34,380 --> 00:01:36,520 Getting outside my own comfort zone 42 00:01:38,010 --> 00:01:41,370 made it possible for me to really connect 43 00:01:41,370 --> 00:01:42,690 with these other women. 44 00:01:42,690 --> 00:01:46,230 Because I didn't wanna be just the interviewer. 45 00:01:46,230 --> 00:01:50,493 Part of what we did when we conceived of the series, 46 00:01:51,422 --> 00:01:53,340 is say, well, let's do something with them. 47 00:01:53,340 --> 00:01:55,620 You know, it's not just another interview series. 48 00:01:55,620 --> 00:01:58,770 It's not just another talking head documentary. 49 00:01:58,770 --> 00:02:00,330 What are we gonna do with these women? 50 00:02:00,330 --> 00:02:01,800 - And let's do what they wanna do. 51 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,870 - And we let them choose. Right? 52 00:02:03,870 --> 00:02:08,760 And so it became a great experience for, 53 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:09,600 you know, me, personally. 54 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:10,560 I think for you too. 55 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:11,523 - Absolutely. 56 00:02:13,590 --> 00:02:15,330 - [Interviewer] Storytelling has such an impact 57 00:02:15,330 --> 00:02:18,180 on starting conversations and opening dialogue 58 00:02:18,180 --> 00:02:19,920 in people's minds, new ideas and things. 59 00:02:19,920 --> 00:02:23,460 But do you think we are too far gone as a society 60 00:02:23,460 --> 00:02:25,290 to have those meaningful conversations anymore? 61 00:02:25,290 --> 00:02:28,440 - Oh, that's such a sad but important question. 62 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:29,340 - Yeah. 63 00:02:29,340 --> 00:02:31,380 - If this series helps to provoke 64 00:02:31,380 --> 00:02:33,600 some of those conversations, so that people... 65 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,970 Like I had an aha moment, I had a bunch of them. 66 00:02:35,970 --> 00:02:37,140 We need to talk about that. 67 00:02:37,140 --> 00:02:39,390 An example is when we did the, you know, 68 00:02:39,390 --> 00:02:40,860 gutsy women refuse hate. 69 00:02:40,860 --> 00:02:43,170 And we talked first to, you know, 70 00:02:43,170 --> 00:02:45,300 women who had been in white supremacy groups. 71 00:02:45,300 --> 00:02:46,770 - But you were quite skeptical about. 72 00:02:46,770 --> 00:02:48,550 - I was wondering about that. 73 00:02:48,550 --> 00:02:52,230 - Well, I mean, when we were asked, will we go to Georgia 74 00:02:52,230 --> 00:02:56,130 and meet someone who was in a white supremacy group 75 00:02:56,130 --> 00:02:59,190 and is now trying to deprogram people? 76 00:02:59,190 --> 00:03:00,023 I don't know. 77 00:03:00,023 --> 00:03:01,650 And yet, you know, kind of again, 78 00:03:01,650 --> 00:03:03,000 getting outta my comfort zone. 79 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,163 Okay. We gotta have conversations.