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I was Consulting with my brother and talking about everything.

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He looked at me, and he was like,

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if we did this ourselves, a mouse when Felix,

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and this is how I did it.

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I was really scared to speak up in general and I wasn't sure.

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I really honestly didn't know how it was going to come off.

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I wasn't sure if, you know, I wouldn't be supported if people

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would you know, kind of be really critical of it.

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I was blown away by, you know,

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the women who were really vocal with me and who told me,

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you know, their own stories and in one sense,

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it was amazing to have that support,

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but it was all so heartbreaking, that so many women have their

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own stories and had been through something and you could relate

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to what I was going through.

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I was Consulting with my brother and talking about everything

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and we got to the issue that I did not have shoes to run

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in at the Olympics and he looked at me,

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and he was like, if we did this ourselves and I looked at him

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like he was absolutely crazy.

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The more I sat with it.

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I was so exhausted of asking for change,

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you know, we were searching for a sponsor of Footwear sponsor

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that my values align with, and I was just in a place where

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I was tired.

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And I was like, well, this is a great opportunity to be that

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change.

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So the first step that we tucking in building say she was just

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a reaching out to someone on Instagram.

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Like they're Tiffany beers who respected so much,

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you know this phenomenal engineer and who has built,

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you know, iconic shoes and we just literally the end her on Instagram

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and like ran the idea by her was like,

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you know, and she just connected with me as a person going

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through the development process during the pandemic was pretty

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wild. I mean, we literally built this virtually,

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you know, so our team was all over and we would come together

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and literally we would be having meetings with the factory

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on Zoom. I don't really have anything to compare it to you because

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this is all I know and you just kind of adapting to the best

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that you can do.

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You know what everyone where they're at.

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Do-it-all receiver shoes.

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And, you know, spend that you know,

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what kind of time in them, you know,

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give all of our feedback you meet with the,

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you know, the different companies who are doing are are testing,

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you know.

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On a special project for my axle Spike,

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that I wore in the Olympics.

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It was kind of a different process because it was supposed

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peace to me and they were handmade.

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And so we worked with Incredible shoe.

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Literally a shoe Craftsman, who was based in Oregon.

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And so we would be zooming into his recalled.

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It like his his laboratory.

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His work is work place.

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I guess I'm which it looks just like an old school.

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Like I know it's old school.

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Kind of like workroom and it was really fascinating because

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I literally saw the shoes being cracked it.

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I didn't know that there was such a huge issue with women,

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not being involved in the process of making shoes when we decided

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that we were going to make shoes,

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but typically for women, and our research and Tiffany really

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explaining that the last were based on men's feed.

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That's when, like, it was like, Wow,

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as a professional Runner, the shoes that I'm wearing,

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another not made for women, that's crazy.

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So then it was very intentional that,

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you know, a woman with engineer.

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The shoe that are designer, would be a woman and also that we

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would celebrate them.

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And so on are shoe, you know,

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when you look on the tongue, you see Tiffany signature,

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you see Natalie kendrion are designer's signature.

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You see my signature and we really want to tell that story

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of who's behind these beautiful shoes that have been made.

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So we recently open home of sage bushes.

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Are it's a retail pop-up shop.

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In Culver City idea was that it wouldn't be a traditional

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transactional face, but that it would be really Community

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Center. And so it's a place where yes,

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you Coming by shoes, but we could also come and have our Sage

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Collective events. And so we've had workouts,

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their hosts the conversations, you know, talking about things

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that women don't typically talk about and whether it's relating

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to Motherhood or in the workplace.

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Why? I think it's shocking to know that we are so behind with

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our maternal issues and family leave.

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It was really me going through my own experiences that open

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my eyes to him.

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I think every woman where they are can we can start with their

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own circles, we can speak up when something isn't,

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right. It's really scary and sometimes there is consequences

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involved but I think we can start making little steps,

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you know, whether that's when you know your specific employer

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and I think there's also power in the collective.

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I was so proud of Samoa and the conversation that they brought

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to the Forefront around mental health in sports.

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I think it's a conversation that we should have had a long time

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ago. And I think often times athletes are seen as invincible

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and sometimes we see ourselves that way but we're human and we

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go through things like everyone.

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I started to think, you know, why do I think that this is not

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possible? Like why does it seem so big to me?

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And I think one of the answers to that question was that I didn't

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see it. I never saw it growing up,

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you know, people where me and Wes are from,

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they don't start companies, you know, we hadn't,

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we didn't have friends who, you know,

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whose parents had companies.

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And so I think more founders of color more women.

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Founders know, it's so important to see that in action and in

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real-time to have no people at the table who not only are just

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there but are have a voice and who our decision maker

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That's a great question.

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I mean, I think I'm really going to I'm not going to sugarcoat

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anything. You know, I will definitely tell her how hard it was

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and how disappointed I was in.

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Really all the feelings.

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I have. You know that I wasn't value in that my work wasn't

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seen but then that I took action,

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you knowing that I didn't accept that.

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What do you believe in something and you want to do something

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the right way that you stand up for yourself and that you speak

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the truth?