1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,200 - Someone said I was selling feminism, and I was like, 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:03,740 I'm not selling feminism. 3 00:00:03,740 --> 00:00:05,890 What am I supposed to do, be a feminist on the weekends? 4 00:00:05,890 --> 00:00:06,723 You know, like. 5 00:00:06,723 --> 00:00:07,556 - It's a part time job. 6 00:00:07,556 --> 00:00:09,610 - Right, like, I'm not only gonna talk about it 7 00:00:09,610 --> 00:00:10,631 in my off time. 8 00:00:10,631 --> 00:00:13,298 (dynamic music) 9 00:00:18,179 --> 00:00:20,830 - What's the most important thing you think about 10 00:00:20,830 --> 00:00:22,690 when you hire people? 11 00:00:22,690 --> 00:00:24,520 - I think that now more than ever, 12 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,560 someone who's really willing to work hard 13 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:28,960 and put the time in. 14 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:33,170 I think I meet a lot of young people that expect 15 00:00:33,170 --> 00:00:36,020 their career to be as quick as calling your Uber 16 00:00:36,020 --> 00:00:39,860 or your Amazon Prime, and I keep saying I don't know 17 00:00:39,860 --> 00:00:41,300 of a shortcut to your career. 18 00:00:41,300 --> 00:00:43,730 Even if your career path is here 19 00:00:43,730 --> 00:00:45,920 for the next two years, work your ass off. 20 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,600 - I think when you're hiring or even when you're looking 21 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,980 for a partner, a lot of the advice that you would get 22 00:00:51,980 --> 00:00:55,860 from maybe more traditional investors is, oh, 23 00:00:55,860 --> 00:00:58,330 you want someone with this kind of resume 24 00:00:58,330 --> 00:01:01,740 or that kind of experience, and 25 00:01:01,740 --> 00:01:03,650 more than anything, I've actually realized that 26 00:01:03,650 --> 00:01:05,590 what matters most is the chemistry that you have 27 00:01:05,590 --> 00:01:06,560 with that person. 28 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,750 And does that person bring out a side in you 29 00:01:08,750 --> 00:01:11,250 that you didn't know you even had? 30 00:01:11,250 --> 00:01:13,990 - And I think, can they do, can they take some 31 00:01:13,990 --> 00:01:14,823 of the load of you? 32 00:01:14,823 --> 00:01:16,430 If you're the owner of the company, 33 00:01:16,430 --> 00:01:18,820 whoever you hire should make less work for you. 34 00:01:18,820 --> 00:01:20,350 And if they're not making less work for you, 35 00:01:20,350 --> 00:01:21,540 then you've made the wrong hire. 36 00:01:21,540 --> 00:01:23,010 And that was like, now with every hire, 37 00:01:23,010 --> 00:01:25,100 I'm like, did they take work off my plate? 38 00:01:25,100 --> 00:01:26,260 Am I more freed up? 39 00:01:26,260 --> 00:01:28,180 Like, am I not feeling like I'm drowning 40 00:01:28,180 --> 00:01:29,150 in a million things? 41 00:01:29,150 --> 00:01:30,690 Okay, good, then that's a good hire. 42 00:01:30,690 --> 00:01:33,510 - I don't have kids, but there are, we have a lot of parents 43 00:01:33,510 --> 00:01:35,830 at my company, and that's been a really interesting topic, 44 00:01:35,830 --> 00:01:38,910 and especially as a startup when, you know, each dollar is 45 00:01:38,910 --> 00:01:40,440 so precious, this idea of, 46 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,340 like, maternity leave, paternity leave, 47 00:01:42,340 --> 00:01:45,120 how do we take care of our parents at the company. 48 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,830 And one of the initial moments we, we struggled with is 49 00:01:49,830 --> 00:01:53,750 when one of my first employees, Annie, got pregnant, 50 00:01:53,750 --> 00:01:56,650 and I think we were a team of seven people at that time. 51 00:01:56,650 --> 00:01:59,650 And of course the initial reaction is like, congratulations! 52 00:01:59,650 --> 00:02:02,980 But then, we're like, (groans) what are we gonna do? 53 00:02:02,980 --> 00:02:04,180 What are we gonna do without you? 54 00:02:04,180 --> 00:02:05,510 Annie was, to her credit, 55 00:02:05,510 --> 00:02:08,330 she was such an active participant in this conversation. 56 00:02:08,330 --> 00:02:10,380 And this was her second, so she had done it before, 57 00:02:10,380 --> 00:02:11,570 and so she was like, you know, let me tell you 58 00:02:11,570 --> 00:02:14,930 what my needs are, let me tell you how I need this 59 00:02:14,930 --> 00:02:15,960 to play out, and let's see if 60 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,230 we can find a middle ground that works. 61 00:02:19,230 --> 00:02:21,500 And I think, as we've grown as a company, like now 62 00:02:21,500 --> 00:02:25,510 we offer 12 weeks parental leave to all of our employees, 63 00:02:25,510 --> 00:02:27,880 and that's something we can afford to do, but early on 64 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,990 in the company, when each dollar matters so much, 65 00:02:31,990 --> 00:02:33,720 those trade offs are really hard to make. 66 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,200 - Yeah, I think when you're growing and, you know, 67 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,210 I was the first one within my company to have a baby, 68 00:02:39,210 --> 00:02:42,230 but then when the second person has a baby and you realize, 69 00:02:42,230 --> 00:02:44,500 you know, how costly it is on the company, it's something 70 00:02:44,500 --> 00:02:48,050 I hands down am 100% supportive of, 71 00:02:48,050 --> 00:02:49,970 but even if I'm 100% supportive of it, 72 00:02:49,970 --> 00:02:52,000 if you're a growing company or you're just starting out 73 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,160 or there's five employees, it's extraordinarily expensive 74 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:55,993 to support that. 75 00:02:55,993 --> 00:02:57,621 And you wanna support that person. 76 00:02:57,621 --> 00:02:59,350 (chill music) 77 00:02:59,350 --> 00:03:02,040 So one of the things that's always been important to me 78 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,330 that was a pillar of the company, 79 00:03:04,330 --> 00:03:06,020 but probably on the side was like, 80 00:03:06,020 --> 00:03:09,420 when we have time to support and promote 81 00:03:09,420 --> 00:03:10,570 and talk about women, 82 00:03:10,570 --> 00:03:13,420 we'll do that, been doing it the whole time. 83 00:03:13,420 --> 00:03:15,800 But I think really, this season it took center stage, 84 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,060 and like, no, actually this is way 85 00:03:17,060 --> 00:03:18,610 more important than product. 86 00:03:18,610 --> 00:03:19,443 - Wow. 87 00:03:19,443 --> 00:03:21,180 - So we launched our I Am Many campaign where 88 00:03:21,180 --> 00:03:22,690 we really wanted females 89 00:03:22,690 --> 00:03:25,130 to celebrate their multidimensionality. 90 00:03:25,130 --> 00:03:27,110 I think as women, we've been marketed to is 91 00:03:27,110 --> 00:03:29,963 to be one thing, be bold, be brave, be beautiful. 92 00:03:31,010 --> 00:03:32,810 - You see kids wearing those t-shirts, yeah. 93 00:03:32,810 --> 00:03:33,643 - Right, and like, wait, 94 00:03:33,643 --> 00:03:34,950 we can be all these things. - Totally. 95 00:03:34,950 --> 00:03:36,240 - And we can take confidence 96 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,590 in the many different parts of ourselves and celebrate that. 97 00:03:38,590 --> 00:03:42,310 - I mean, because we, our customers are professional women, 98 00:03:42,310 --> 00:03:46,810 it's part of our company ethos since day one, 99 00:03:46,810 --> 00:03:49,470 all these fashion magazines in Japan, like they have Vogue 100 00:03:49,470 --> 00:03:51,550 and they have Harper's Bazaar, but really it comes down 101 00:03:51,550 --> 00:03:55,410 to these four publications, Japanese publications, 102 00:03:55,410 --> 00:03:57,680 and they all have models on the cover 103 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,440 but they're posing as professional women. 104 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,727 So growing up, again, like I would look at these magazines 105 00:04:01,727 --> 00:04:03,070 and I would think, oh my gosh, 106 00:04:03,070 --> 00:04:04,250 I can't wait to be a grown up. 107 00:04:04,250 --> 00:04:06,350 Like, I can't wait for my 8:00 a.m. meeting. 108 00:04:06,350 --> 00:04:09,350 And I think when I came to the U.S., 109 00:04:09,350 --> 00:04:11,230 I was surprised that they're, 110 00:04:11,230 --> 00:04:12,670 these models were not to be found. 111 00:04:12,670 --> 00:04:14,830 And this conversation about professional women, I mean, 112 00:04:14,830 --> 00:04:19,830 it was like at the very end of, you know, fashion magazines, 113 00:04:19,870 --> 00:04:21,070 if you could find them. 114 00:04:21,070 --> 00:04:22,610 Nobody was talking about what it was like 115 00:04:22,610 --> 00:04:23,850 to be a professional woman. 116 00:04:23,850 --> 00:04:28,580 And so I think we've really tried to corner that space 117 00:04:28,580 --> 00:04:29,980 by starting our own content. 118 00:04:29,980 --> 00:04:33,900 We have our, our own digital magazine called The M Dash, 119 00:04:33,900 --> 00:04:36,180 and in that magazine, weekly 120 00:04:36,180 --> 00:04:38,610 we're featuring professional women. 121 00:04:38,610 --> 00:04:41,760 And the subscriber list has grown to over a million people. 122 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:42,593 - Wow. 123 00:04:42,593 --> 00:04:44,380 - Which has been, I mean, a total surprise for us, 124 00:04:44,380 --> 00:04:48,270 just seeing how much interest and curiosity there is 125 00:04:48,270 --> 00:04:50,080 from other professional women to hear 126 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,580 about other professional women, you know. 127 00:04:51,580 --> 00:04:55,030 And these aren't stars, they're not mega celebrities at all. 128 00:04:55,030 --> 00:04:58,140 They, they're women just doing remarkable things, and, 129 00:04:58,140 --> 00:05:00,910 and I think that's really just one way we've tried 130 00:05:00,910 --> 00:05:05,120 to put the spotlight on, okay, what does, it's so wonderful 131 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,700 to be a professional woman, right, okay, that we have 132 00:05:06,700 --> 00:05:10,750 so many challenges, 77 cents on the dollar, all of that, 133 00:05:10,750 --> 00:05:14,670 but I think some celebration is also necessary, and so that, 134 00:05:14,670 --> 00:05:16,207 that's a lot of what we've tried to do. 135 00:05:16,207 --> 00:05:18,707 (chill music) 136 00:05:19,970 --> 00:05:23,630 10 years from now, where do you see Rebecca Minkoff? 137 00:05:23,630 --> 00:05:24,660 - Oh man. 138 00:05:24,660 --> 00:05:27,720 I really think that we have a couple categories left in us 139 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,010 that we haven't launched. 140 00:05:29,010 --> 00:05:29,843 - Yes. 141 00:05:29,843 --> 00:05:33,840 - And I think really solidifying our community and, 142 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:37,860 and getting that dedicated fan to stay with me 143 00:05:37,860 --> 00:05:39,010 for the next 10 years. 144 00:05:39,010 --> 00:05:40,010 And what about you? 145 00:05:40,010 --> 00:05:41,240 Where are you in 10 years? 146 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,660 - You know I think, a lotta people think fashion, oh, 147 00:05:43,660 --> 00:05:45,590 you know, so trite, like it's not serious, 148 00:05:45,590 --> 00:05:48,450 but fashion is the power of costume. 149 00:05:48,450 --> 00:05:51,230 It's so powerful when you, when you dawn on something 150 00:05:51,230 --> 00:05:53,120 and you look yourself in the mirror and you're like, damn, 151 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:54,100 I look good. 152 00:05:54,100 --> 00:05:57,590 Really our, our goal, if we can change that perception about 153 00:05:57,590 --> 00:06:01,150 how American professional women are, are kicking butt, 154 00:06:01,150 --> 00:06:03,580 then I think that would be a huge accomplishment. 155 00:06:03,580 --> 00:06:04,930 That and making a lotta money. 156 00:06:04,930 --> 00:06:05,763 - Totally. - Yes. 157 00:06:05,763 --> 00:06:06,596 - Hell yes. - Yes. 158 00:06:07,751 --> 00:06:10,251 (chill music)