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You've probably heard of quantum Computing.

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But what exactly is it?

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And what problems does it solve?

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I'm here with Heather West, Senior research analyst at IDC as well

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as Sir, Dar UL, senior writer,

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at infoworld to discuss and to mystify Quantum Computing

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stick around.

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Hey, Bianca, next day and I'm Juliet Beauchamp.

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And like I said, I am here with Heather West as well as her

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dog you out.

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And we are going to really just dive into all things Quantum

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Computing today. So, Heather, I'll start with you.

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I mean, I know this is, you know,

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the Crux of our conversation, but what is quantum Computing

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me here at?

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This is very exciting.

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And yes, I love the topic.

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So here we go.

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So Quantum Computing is basically breaking out of classical

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compute the way we think about it today and using quantum

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mechanics and quantum physics for compute power.

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That's going to enable us to solve bigger larger problems

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than what we've ever been able to stop before.

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And it faster accelerated pace.

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And these problems are going to have a lot more variable,

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a lot more data coming into it.

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They're going to have more possible solution.

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So we want to find the most optim eye solution to the problems that

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we're kind of salt.

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And when we talked about the difference between classical

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Computing and Quantum Computing, the building blocks of both

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Technologies are really different to.

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So, for instance, with classical compute.

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We have a b 0 1 and yes,

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or no. Is essentially, when we talked about when do Computing,

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we are thinking about a cubit as our basic building block in.

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So, what's a cubit, a cubit differs from a b in that is able

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to hold the values of 1 + 0,

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and anything in-between and okay.

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So if you think about the way your brain processes,

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your brain has all Taste of functioning and neural processes

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that allow it to function and you're able to come up with all

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these possibilities. So that's essentially what we're doing

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with a quantum computer when we, when we look at the differences

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between

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Wow, how does it? How

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does that sound to you sooner.

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And he thought it sounds pretty intimidating.

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Enterprise in the audience are going to be interested

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in what you're describing is something that sounds completely

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different. So it sounds like in order to make a quantum computer.

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We have to go about it, a totally different way.

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Then we would when we make a classical Computing device,

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and that brings with it, its own complications and its own difficulties.

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Yes, that's exactly true.

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But it opens up the door to a whole new group of startups

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that are able to compete against big Tech giants,

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like, IBM and Google, which I we do have big text giant IBM.

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Google. They are developing their own Quantum,

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Computing. Machine.

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Fabrication of the machine, the quantum mechanics behind the

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machine. It opens up a brand new Computing Market,

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to startup businesses start of computing, vendors,

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Hardware vendors, as well as software vendors,

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because if you have a, a quantum computer that that's wonderful,

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but if you don't have the software to be able to run the computer,

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to write the algorithms on the computer to run the use cases,

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then you just have a machine but it does offer some kind of some

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complexity because Cupid's are very unstable.

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And they if you think about a cubit,

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I think about like if you go into the office,

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if you were there by yourself, you can work.

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You can be really productive while you're in there.

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But the minute your office mate comes in,

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you want to chit chat, you, you slow down your productivity.

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So think about that.

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And it has a cubit like the cupid.

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We need to have them work together and become entangled

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in order to process the information and then be able to generate

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the the results that we want.

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But the problem is, is that

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They're so.

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They like a volatile.

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They can get, is that a difficult to work with it?

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Because they've a very short shelf-life as it were exactly

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in in order to work with them.

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You need to run the machine.

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Very low, like 0° K, and even below that degrees it.

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So you knew a cryogenic or delusion refrigerator in order to be able

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to stabilize the cube is long enough to process the quantum

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computation and get them read the results back.

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And right now, that's kind of where we're at with Quantum

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development, is how do you stabilize disk u b,

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how do you reduce the the error rates so that you can use the

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key long enough in order to get the results and stuff.

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So yeah, so it's a very complex and as you can imagine the skill

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set that goes along with having to maintain the infrastructure

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as well.

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Has to be able to program.

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A quantum computer are very different than what classical

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Computing Hardware. Bring it along with it as well.

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I do before we get super liked to forward-facing which is obviously

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going to be important.

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I do want to go a little bit backwards and I was wondering,

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you know, what Heather Sardar, maybe a combination of the two

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of you. It can you explain sort of how we got here like to

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the current Quantum Computing landscape and then we can you do

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look forward into what it is.

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Skilled at cetera show or so, and more Enterprises are looking

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to adopt and start experimenting with Quantum Computing.

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The quantum Computing development is actually in its fourth

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decade. So Richard find steel in the 1980s proposed that in order

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to

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In order to mimic in a natural environment,

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you needed a machine that was able to,

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that was part of the quantum, part of a natural environment.

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And so he challenged developers and researchers to start figuring

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out, how can you build a Quantum system and sense?

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Then really in the labs.

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It's been this kind of scientific development.

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Like what what is a cubit?

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How do we develop a, what is superpositioning?

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What is entanglement in?

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So it really started back in the 1980s and it's really the reason

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for it is that there were these huge problems that just could

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not be solved with the computer power and over the course

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of time. The even though we're have accelerated as we have,

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you know, all these all these other types of classical

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computers, trying to increase the speed.

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There's only so much.

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You can only go so fast.

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I think we're running out of

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I mean, like there's a parallel to be drawn between the way Quantum

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Computing is now the state of it.

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It's in now and the state that conventional Computing was right

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after World War II where we had systems that were based on very

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primitive technology and that had very limited process.

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And we're built on also very dependable and all that.

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They were, they were fragile because they weren't,

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they were such a construction and principles weren't necessarily

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fully understood. But at the time they were,

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they took constituted an enormous breakthrough and they pointed the

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way towards what could be accomplished when we could scale

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of Nathan's more dependable.

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So is that an accurate comparison?

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The difference between Quantum is that now we have the cloud

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and so dark back when they were in the 1940s or rate after

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World War II, it was dependent upon the Specialties that were

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inside the lab, but with Quantum Computing is actually opened

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up the door.

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To an ecosystem that isn't just dependent on Quantum Hardware

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vendors, and they are specialists in the software vendors

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and their specialist.

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But there's is open-source platforms and that have become

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accessible to the general population.

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So, you and I could log in and go to either vendors clouds,

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Quantum Cloud site, we could log in,

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we could test it out.

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We can play with it.

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Now, we wouldn't have access to the most advanced systems,

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but we would still have access to the software development

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kids. We would still have access to some of the quantum systems

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are the quantum simulators, or there's what they call Quantum

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inspired. Technology. So Quantum inhalers.

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And so, basically what a Quantum Inspire technology is,

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is it's a Quantum Computing system that uses the powers of the

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Cubit but they aren't dependent on the cube.

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It's interacting. And as a result of that,

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that the need for them, not interact in.

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What they're doing is our measuring the energy wave within

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the cupid and as, as a result of that,

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you don't have the the D coherence or the interruption

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that you would have in the end as a result.

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If you don't need to scale the cubits as much to be able to

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solve optimization problem, which is probably the most popular

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problem right now, to self using Quantum Computing,

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or continents by their machines.

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But but yeah, so we have these Cloud options and a lot of Hardware

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vendors, a lot of the software vendors from Quantum.

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They identify that.

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There are a lot of developers out there that maybe he didn't

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get to go to college and where on computer science,

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maybe there's been someone was playing around and says,

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opening up. This brand new world is brand new ecosystem

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of developers and it's really a lot different and it's actually

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speeding up the development of quantum systems as opposed

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to the classical system that took a long.

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Of time to get that really are.

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So yeah.

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The next big question that I had,

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which is what problems does it solve and what problems does

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it? Not solvo?

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What are the specific things that we are trying to do with Quantum

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Computing that we're not possible scale before or were only

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possible at prohibitive scale.

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So to be honest you and I probably will not have a quantum

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computer at our desk, the average problem that we saw last person

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probably won't have a need for quantum computers quantum

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computer. The problems that we're trying to solve our enormous

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problems. That just couldn't be solved before and I mention

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climate change before, but other examples are personalized

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medicine. So being able to take a different chemical compounds

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in and use information from each individual person to make a of

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a personalized medicine and get her personalized drug.

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That's not something that we can do today is just way too much

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information to simplify our tune on to simplified.

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I'm sorry to be able to do at this point in time.

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It can also.

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Right now, it's more optimization problems that are being solved, just

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because of the scalability issue and where we are at with

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the defense. But as a technology gets as,

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we're able to scale the cubits in in his have more computers.

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He was within the system, decrease Ade coherence raids and increase

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the volume. The complexity of the problem that can be solved,

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are going to be are going to increase.

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So for example, we just went through a pandemic,

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I want to say went through so,

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but with a quantum computer, a lot of the information

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that were is coming World.

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Why we could pull in, where are the newest variance coming

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from? What are the the some of the

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New strains are versing.

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What populations are being more affected.

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What's the mortality?

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They call these different variables could come in and these

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huge data. This huge amount of data could be told in process

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and lies with a quantum computer.

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And as a result, we might be able to forecast that disease

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and how it's going to change and start doing the voice of that.

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Something that currently week we can't do,

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but there's it's going to be there's going to be problems

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that come from every industry.

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And in right now, we're seeing a big push with HBC Center

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the adopting it because it's able to accelerate their computer

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power, but it's always going to be a hybrid.

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Like, we're always going to see problems being solved with a hybrid

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approach, using some classical and some Quantum of some degree

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because obviously we need to get it to the cloud promise

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in the cloud in the content cloud and then bring it back against

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and they're going to Quantum club for the quantum system accessible

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violin 50K.

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I think I do that.

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That also went.

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I'm sorry. Go ahead.

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I think we might be about to say the same thing,

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maybe not. But there's maybe like a a misconception

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of like this Quantum Supremacy and my Quantum Advantage.

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So I was hoping that we could like demystify some of those

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terms. Is that what you're going to say?

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So are we going to say something else?

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That's not a bad question to start with o.

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Quantum Supremacy in Quantum.

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What it means in my car.

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They sort of like hyped marketing terms or is this like an actual?

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Like, I don't know, I guess industry to her.

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So Quantum Supremacy is the ability to use a Quantum system

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to solve a problem that we've never been able salt before

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or solve it faster.

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Faster than we've ever been done before in in in 2019.

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Google have made an announcement that they had solved. The

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problem is they've achieved, pumpkin Supremacy,

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but later on IBM responded saying that they had their supercomputer

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was able to actually saw it once you turned on the right parameters

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of the computer.

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So it was not necessary to use a quantum computer for that.

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Exactly. And more recently group, in China had announced

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that they had solved when they headed to Quantum Supremacy,

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but the problem is that they're solving are not problems

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that would necessarily be of value to Nephi.

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Random ization, number randomizer, randomize a random number

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generator in there.

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That's great. But we're, what does assault?

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What value does a tad in it?

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So we kind of moved away from the term quantum Supremacy,

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and moved into Quantum advantage and what is quantum advantage.

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And basically Pawn Advantage is being able to use the quantum

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system to solve a problem or accelerate a process.

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So that you get a business value of scientific value,

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some sort of value to humanity has actually using the system

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to do something, a chief, some sort of value.

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Okay?

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Then we'll be going to say sooner.

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I guess. One good way to ask this question would be when we talked

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about the problems that are done exclusively or or chiefly,

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in the cloud with conventional Computing.

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And then we talked about the subdomain of problems that is solved

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or or accelerated with Quantum Computing.

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What's the big distinction is it?

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Because the things that we do in the quantum domain are things

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at a dinner that I have so many combinations of possibilities

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that, that, that conventional Computing would simply be too slow

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by orders of magnitude.

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That seems to be the chief difference in my right.

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I would agree with you.

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I would rather you in, in the the use of a classical hybrid

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approach allows.

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For Enterprises to kind of.

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Optimize their cost as well when they're using Quantum cuz obviously

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working in the cloud working on Quantum systems are the costs

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associated with using those systems in running those executing

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those Quantum workflows in the cloud.

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And so by like you said there,

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there's

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Exaggerated amount of of.

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The answers are responses.

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Are you you're looking for?

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But then what ends up happening is that you also have portions of

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those problems that they, they could easily run and they

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can run in parallel.

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And so you don't necessarily need to send everything to the cloud.

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So you can optimize both the prop.

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Get that most populous answer for the problem.

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You're trying to solve for those large number of variables

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are the largest number of outcomes and solutions are what have

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you. But then for the parts of the problem that you don't necessarily

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need, you can keep those running classical and you can optimize

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the cost that your ear using to solve that far.

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You're waiting to solve that problem.

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And in addition, if you actually speed of getting to the solution

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because you don't you're sending it to two different systems

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at that point of time, so

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The term that I was about to use those on the tip of my tongue

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with Top Ramen, that's the number of parameters

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for when you were performing this case too.

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So I guess my final question, I think on this like specific

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scheme of quantum Computing.

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As you know, how how do you access it where I can use or

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do any business users?

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Certainly isn't. So as we've talked about.

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It's obviously the the majority of is going to be consumed

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through provision services are cloud services, right?

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And we have kind of a few different options right now as to how

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you can get to those Services.

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First Enterprises can work with Quantum Hardware vendors

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who have their own Quantum solutions for premium price.

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Which you in any such Ventures different depending on how their

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pricing at or what have you and that you partner identify

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as a partner with a vendor and then the vendor would give you

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access to their Consulting, their pain, specialist their Quantum

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machines to help build Quantum, algorithms, Quantum programs

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and help it really helped guide the the organization's

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Quantum initiative, on some Enterprises, in organizations, or

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further ahead than others.

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And so, it really depends on where you're comfortable.

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And in when you partner with a lot of Hardware vendor,

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you have access to those machines from that specific vendor

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in addition.

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Certain cloud service providers such as Microsoft Azure Quantum

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and Amazon brackets.

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They provide Quant Quantum Computing as a service solutions

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as well. But the difference between the cloud service providers

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as in comparison to the quantum Harbor Avengers is that the cloud

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service providers have partnered with multiple Quantum Hardware

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vendors? And so, when you access the quantum systems through

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their platform, you're able to get access to multiple vendors

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and as a result quanta, not only do you get access to multiple

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vendors, but most of all types of quantum machine.

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So when I say that, there's a cubit,

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Cubit, cyst out of cubed, like, a b kind of just a bit,

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but a cube is not just a cubits.

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There's different. The quantum mechanics behind different

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types of cute as there's a topological,

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cubit, in the spin, keep it in check.

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Ian and basically is how do we?

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What? What is the cubed material?

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That do you think it is an atom obviously,

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but is it a superconducting Adam?

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Is it, you know, so I'm a photon and how do you isolate that

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that Cuba to be able to read the quantum computation

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off from it?

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And they all they are very but there's in there.

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Several different types are under development in stove by accessing

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through a cloud service provider you have access to all the well

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not all of them, but, you know,

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variety of different types as well as the software development

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kits for me to those vendors and then they're priced basically

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/ run s.

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So that's kind of how we how we exit right now.

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So, all right.

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There seems to be a parallel between the way,

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the different providers offer Quantum Services and the way they

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offer other things in the cloud generally feel like if you go

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to Amazon vs.

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Azure vs. Google, each one of them has distinct for instance

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in cloud-native, database services, and they're all offered

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to Consumers with specific features that are exclusive

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to that cloud.

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Do you see something similar happening with with Quantum

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Computing? That each one of these will have some differentiating

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factors other than just a tool kits.

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Yes, so when we when we talked about the problems that are going

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to be solved.

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Now. Obviously the question is when are we going to be able

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to achieve Quantum advantage and what what system will make

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it there? And so will you when we one of the most popular

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questions that we get is, which system is going to make it there

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first and and

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IDC our team.

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We don't believe that is necessarily a race to achieve Quantum

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Advantage. We think that over the course of time,

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the machines are going to continue to advance and I should

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get more advanced machines will be able to solve more advanced

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problems. And and I think that's going to be the differentiator

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between each one.

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If you're looking to solve for instance,

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right now. A lot of HPC centers are looking to adopt Quantum

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Computing, applications Pacific type machines, which essentially

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is the hardware that's built, built at the same simultaneously

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with a pond of algorithms so that they can solve specific

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problems, but it's not going to be a general computer General

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called the computer where he can use it to solve one problem

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this month. And next month to be able to repurpose it,

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to use it to solve a different types of processing unit.

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For instance, a very specific specific problems exploit,

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the quantum computing power that we have currently for the current

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HP assist in their HPC problems that they're looking to solve

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at this point in time.

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So I really think the different trailer isn't necessarily

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going to be the software at the SDK is,

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but it's really going to be what

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What specific problems will?

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This machine allow me to solve an f and I don't know that we

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we really know that answer.

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I don't know that the vendors they have some idea but it's really

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going to be interesting to see how the next few years shake

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out cuz a lot of the

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Some of the quantum vendors at this point in time has started

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to reasor road maps to give.

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Okay, Enterprises some motivation and some visibility

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as to when they can expect to see machines with at least a thousand

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cubits and they can actually use them to start selling some

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of these problems.

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Yeah. I think that was a fantastic.

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Sort of wrap up right there, and I think we can leave it there

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because, you know, we're also going to be discussing in in an

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upcoming video about you were going to drive a little bit deeper.

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A little bit deeper into some of the use cases,

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you know, why invest now, so, I think this is a good place

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