1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,290 - [Reporter] What's happening in this country right now 2 00:00:02,290 --> 00:00:03,800 is not a new phenomenon. 3 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,070 The righteous rage of Black Americans 4 00:00:06,070 --> 00:00:09,450 over their unforgivable treatment at the hands of police 5 00:00:09,450 --> 00:00:12,140 has spilled over into our streets before. 6 00:00:12,140 --> 00:00:14,210 Each time the unthinkable happens, 7 00:00:14,210 --> 00:00:16,460 we hear similar calls for reform. 8 00:00:16,460 --> 00:00:19,310 We certainly need more police body cameras, 9 00:00:19,310 --> 00:00:21,450 more civilian oversight committees, 10 00:00:21,450 --> 00:00:25,040 inherent bias training, and community-based policing. 11 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:26,110 But these things alone 12 00:00:26,110 --> 00:00:29,090 clearly cannot stop the cycle of violence. 13 00:00:29,090 --> 00:00:30,760 So, it's worth asking, 14 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,453 what would it take to make real change? 15 00:00:36,530 --> 00:00:39,740 The Minneapolis PD pre-George Floyd 16 00:00:39,740 --> 00:00:43,230 was held up as an example of a reformed department. 17 00:00:43,230 --> 00:00:46,080 It was one of six cities to embrace the changes 18 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,640 President Obama's DOJ recommended 19 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,910 after the Ferguson unrest in 2014. 20 00:00:51,910 --> 00:00:56,030 But that didn't stop George Floyd from being killed. 21 00:00:56,030 --> 00:00:58,470 Until very recently, police departments 22 00:00:58,470 --> 00:01:00,070 were not required to report 23 00:01:00,070 --> 00:01:02,930 how many citizens were killed by their officers. 24 00:01:02,930 --> 00:01:05,920 Even now, it's not clear that all of them do, 25 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,370 which means the best publicly available numbers 26 00:01:08,370 --> 00:01:10,900 come from databases maintained by journalists 27 00:01:10,900 --> 00:01:12,800 at The Washington Post and The Guardian. 28 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,810 Those estimates show the numbers are remarkably stable 29 00:01:15,810 --> 00:01:17,610 over the last few years. 30 00:01:17,610 --> 00:01:20,340 If our best efforts at changing the way we police 31 00:01:20,340 --> 00:01:23,523 have failed, why not try simply doing less of it? 32 00:01:25,070 --> 00:01:26,210 The logic is simple, 33 00:01:26,210 --> 00:01:29,130 if we accept that policing is inherently dangerous 34 00:01:29,130 --> 00:01:31,330 and leads to shooting of civilians, 35 00:01:31,330 --> 00:01:33,450 less policing means fewer killings. 36 00:01:33,450 --> 00:01:36,110 But defunding the police has another benefit. 37 00:01:36,110 --> 00:01:37,950 All that saved money would be free 38 00:01:37,950 --> 00:01:40,440 to invest back into the community. 39 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,350 Things like housing, employment, healthcare, 40 00:01:43,350 --> 00:01:46,590 trauma services, and after-school programs. 41 00:01:46,590 --> 00:01:49,220 For the cost of each suit of riot gear, 42 00:01:49,220 --> 00:01:51,970 the city could choose to instead fully protect 43 00:01:51,970 --> 00:01:54,273 31 doctors and nurses. 44 00:01:55,690 --> 00:01:57,610 The idea is gaining momentum. 45 00:01:57,610 --> 00:02:00,710 Last week, in Minneapolis, the city council announced 46 00:02:00,710 --> 00:02:02,910 that their reform efforts had failed 47 00:02:02,910 --> 00:02:05,530 and they planned to disband their police department. 48 00:02:05,530 --> 00:02:08,840 And the mayors of New York and LA have both announced plans 49 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,040 to cut the budgets of their departments. 50 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,873 And invest that money back into the community. 51 00:02:17,550 --> 00:02:19,630 The police you see on TV today 52 00:02:19,630 --> 00:02:21,960 certainly don't look like they used to. 53 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,440 In the wake of Iraq and Afghanistan, 54 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,460 police departments have been given access 55 00:02:26,460 --> 00:02:29,790 to all kinds of equipment originally designed to be used 56 00:02:29,790 --> 00:02:33,040 by our armed forces against enemy combatants. 57 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,740 Images of officers in armored vehicles 58 00:02:35,740 --> 00:02:38,780 riding against crowds of unarmed citizens 59 00:02:38,780 --> 00:02:40,430 have become commonplace. 60 00:02:40,430 --> 00:02:42,270 That's partly down to an initiative 61 00:02:42,270 --> 00:02:44,730 known as the 1033 Program, 62 00:02:44,730 --> 00:02:46,510 which has allowed billions of dollars 63 00:02:46,510 --> 00:02:48,730 worth of surplus military gear 64 00:02:48,730 --> 00:02:52,430 to be transferred to local police departments for free. 65 00:02:52,430 --> 00:02:54,920 Thousands of assault rifles, bayonets, 66 00:02:54,920 --> 00:02:57,660 grenade launchers, forced entry tools, 67 00:02:57,660 --> 00:03:01,230 and bomb detonator robots on American streets. 68 00:03:01,230 --> 00:03:03,530 Some studies have shown that just the presence 69 00:03:03,530 --> 00:03:06,530 of this equipment can make policing more violent 70 00:03:06,530 --> 00:03:09,143 and likely to target communities of color. 71 00:03:10,500 --> 00:03:12,780 While President Obama made some progress 72 00:03:12,780 --> 00:03:16,250 in restricting the transfer of military gear to cops, 73 00:03:16,250 --> 00:03:19,110 President Trump has reversed the rollback. 74 00:03:19,110 --> 00:03:21,340 Not only are we sending military gear 75 00:03:21,340 --> 00:03:24,480 directly from our armed forces to the police, 76 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,110 but in some cases, we permit them tactics 77 00:03:27,110 --> 00:03:29,980 which are banned even to soldiers in wartime. 78 00:03:29,980 --> 00:03:33,800 In 1993, the Geneva Convention classified tear gas 79 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,050 as a chemical weapon and banned its use on the battlefield. 80 00:03:37,050 --> 00:03:39,090 And yet, it's used by police forces 81 00:03:39,090 --> 00:03:41,350 across the country to break up crowds, 82 00:03:41,350 --> 00:03:44,040 remains perfectly legal and widespread. 83 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,590 It's not just the equipment, 84 00:03:45,590 --> 00:03:47,760 it's also a militaristic mentality 85 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,950 that develops from training. 86 00:03:49,950 --> 00:03:52,550 John DeCarlo, a professor of criminal justice 87 00:03:52,550 --> 00:03:55,610 and an ex-officer who reformed his police force 88 00:03:55,610 --> 00:03:59,160 says there are signs of a military culture in policing, 89 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,330 an us versus them mentality, 90 00:04:01,330 --> 00:04:04,890 which is dangerous when translated to a community setting. 91 00:04:04,890 --> 00:04:07,180 Both of these issues could be easily addressed. 92 00:04:07,180 --> 00:04:10,240 Our police forces should not use the same equipment 93 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,490 or tactics that our military uses on enemy combatants 94 00:04:13,490 --> 00:04:16,580 on the very citizens they are sworn to protect. 95 00:04:16,580 --> 00:04:18,010 But there is a case to be made 96 00:04:18,010 --> 00:04:19,840 for going even further than that. 97 00:04:19,840 --> 00:04:20,880 Some experts argue 98 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,550 we should completely disarm our police forces. 99 00:04:23,550 --> 00:04:26,530 While the idea may sound radical, there is precedent. 100 00:04:26,530 --> 00:04:30,139 You could argue that it's the UK's strict gun laws 101 00:04:30,139 --> 00:04:31,550 that make unarmed policing possible. 102 00:04:31,550 --> 00:04:34,870 But in Iceland, 15th in the world in gun ownership 103 00:04:34,870 --> 00:04:39,150 per capita, the police also patrol with only a baton. 104 00:04:39,150 --> 00:04:41,360 Some would say that it can work in Iceland 105 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,720 because Iceland is a small, mostly homogenous country 106 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,070 with a strong social safety net 107 00:04:47,070 --> 00:04:50,270 and thus little poverty and a low crime rate. 108 00:04:50,270 --> 00:04:52,760 Which brings us to our final point. 109 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,200 Substantial research suggests countries 110 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,470 with robust social safety nets 111 00:04:57,470 --> 00:05:00,560 experience less violent crime than those without. 112 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,960 In the US, we have higher rates of murder, robbery, 113 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:08,180 burglary, and rape than most other industrialized nations. 114 00:05:08,180 --> 00:05:11,200 Perhaps partially because of our lack of safety net. 115 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,950 The social safety net has outsized importance 116 00:05:13,950 --> 00:05:17,070 for black families because institutional racism 117 00:05:17,070 --> 00:05:19,340 is not limited to the police force. 118 00:05:19,340 --> 00:05:21,000 Over the last 30 years, 119 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,610 black home ownership has actually decreased, 120 00:05:23,610 --> 00:05:26,310 while the wealth the gap between white and black families 121 00:05:26,310 --> 00:05:28,300 is getting worse, not better. 122 00:05:28,300 --> 00:05:31,860 And staggeringly, the median net worth for black families 123 00:05:31,860 --> 00:05:36,860 is $3,557, or 2% of the median net worth for white families. 124 00:05:39,290 --> 00:05:42,190 Which means that the average black family in America 125 00:05:42,190 --> 00:05:46,400 is one minor economic setback away from tragedy. 126 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,100 A stronger safety net could help countless families 127 00:05:49,100 --> 00:05:50,680 avoid that tragedy. 128 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,430 But politicians have been gutting 129 00:05:52,430 --> 00:05:54,330 those programs for decades. 130 00:05:54,330 --> 00:05:55,820 They say we can't afford it. 131 00:05:55,820 --> 00:05:58,180 They say food stamps dissuade poor people 132 00:05:58,180 --> 00:05:59,750 from trying to find jobs. 133 00:05:59,750 --> 00:06:01,470 They argue that paying a living wage 134 00:06:01,470 --> 00:06:03,220 would kill small businesses. 135 00:06:03,220 --> 00:06:05,760 Combine all of that with the overpolicing 136 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,140 of black Americans on drug charges 137 00:06:08,140 --> 00:06:10,870 and you can start to understand why black Americans 138 00:06:10,870 --> 00:06:14,110 make up 12% of the overall population, 139 00:06:14,110 --> 00:06:17,480 and 33% of the prison population. 140 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,300 If the numbers don't convince you that a stronger safety net 141 00:06:20,300 --> 00:06:23,330 can save lives, maybe a story will. 142 00:06:23,330 --> 00:06:27,240 A 46-year-old man lived peacefully in Minnesota. 143 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,800 He made an honest living working as a bouncer 144 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,160 and truck driver. 145 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:35,080 On March 28th, as the governor issued a stay-at-home order, 146 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,610 shutting down the businesses he worked at, 147 00:06:37,610 --> 00:06:40,290 that man lost his job and his income. 148 00:06:40,290 --> 00:06:43,480 If he had lived in say, Denmark, he would have qualified 149 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,180 for up to four years of full unemployment benefits. 150 00:06:47,180 --> 00:06:49,360 But, for whatever reason, 151 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,660 and partially because he lived here, 152 00:06:51,660 --> 00:06:53,620 he was accused of buying cigarettes 153 00:06:53,620 --> 00:06:56,490 with an allegedly counterfeit $20 bill. 154 00:06:56,490 --> 00:06:59,360 He was arrested and then he was killed. 155 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,223 His name was George.